August 16, 20214 yr 9 minutes ago, BigStar said: Complaints about prices of barfines and drinks have been legion on the forum for many years accompanied by doom predictions. No member admits to being skint, of course. Nor did I imply that prices are too low. No one would ever dare suggest such a thing on this forum. But if you say they're low, then that should be good news to those previously whinging, if they're still alive. ???? So then we must spread all this good news. You are the one saying that prices are so low people can have sex on their barstools. You are just a troll you twist everything that is said and contribute nothing sensible.
August 16, 20214 yr 8 minutes ago, rott said: You are the one saying that prices are so low people can have sex on their barstools. You are just a troll you twist everything that is said and contribute nothing sensible. But that's hardly too low. Many a monger would happily take advantage of that low-priced convenience as indeed they did in the good old days. My point was: So mongers are finding things so much less convenient and more expensive than they used to be. Your disagreement was: Not necessarily. I merely gave you benefit of doubt, which is only fair and sensible.
August 16, 20214 yr 42 minutes ago, BigStar said: They are enforcing pretty consistently, as in the case below: The opposite. They are selectively enforcing. 42 minutes ago, BigStar said: That's what happens if you aren't compliant, as I noted earlier. Non compliant with corruption, not the Thai law.
August 16, 20214 yr On 7/23/2021 at 1:09 PM, Broken Record said: I think Casinos are a certainty, new condos and Malls are still being built, investments of billions of baht, they are not doing this for nothing, they are not doing this in the hope that sex tourists from the likes of the UK come here to get drunk for 2 weeks in Soi 6. I believe that people who are investing Billions of Baht probably have some insider knowledge of the future plans for a new Pattaya, and those plans won't be factoring in the old demographic. I hope you're wrong. Chinese love the casinos. Look what happened to sihanoukville in cambodia. Last thing we want here...
August 16, 20214 yr 7 minutes ago, bbabythai said: I hope you're wrong. Chinese love the casinos. Look what happened to sihanoukville in cambodia. Last thing we want here... How can cheap beer, lady drinks and bar fines, under a tin roof, compete with a luxury casino resort, or even small casinos, with multi millionaire, possibly billionaire, Chinese gamblers arriving to part with their money? These people could fly into Pattaya on their weekends, get drunk, get laid, and gamble, then fly back Sunday evening for work on Monday. Pick a figure, say just one of these guys loses 2 million baht on a weekend. How many 60 baht beers, lady drinks, bar fines, and 1000 baht to the girl is that from sex tourists?
August 16, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, BigStar said: But that's hardly too low. Many a monger would happily take advantage of that low-priced convenience as indeed they did in the good old days. My point was: So mongers are finding things so much less convenient and more expensive than they used to be. Your disagreement was: Not necessarily. I merely gave you benefit of doubt, which is only fair and sensible. Frightfully sorry but I find you a crashing bore and have no further interest in this thread.
August 17, 20214 yr On 8/11/2021 at 10:16 PM, morrobay said: And Pattalands in better days. And the girls too. Take a zoom up of the girl in black boots She has dimples in the right place............????????
August 17, 20214 yr 18 hours ago, Leaver said: How can cheap beer, lady drinks and bar fines, under a tin roof, compete with a luxury casino resort, or even small casinos, with multi millionaire, possibly billionaire, Chinese gamblers arriving to part with their money? These people could fly into Pattaya on their weekends, get drunk, get laid, and gamble, then fly back Sunday evening for work on Monday. Pick a figure, say just one of these guys loses 2 million baht on a weekend. How many 60 baht beers, lady drinks, bar fines, and 1000 baht to the girl is that from sex tourists? So your saying the Soi Bukow ,balloon chaser, make one beer last all night, going back for 3rds and 4ths at the free pig roast, will not be the pick of the litter for Thai women in Pattaya any more? We will get dumped for the rich Chinese?
August 17, 20214 yr 3 hours ago, redwood1 said: So your saying the Soi Bukow ,balloon chaser, make one beer last all night, going back for 3rds and 4ths at the free pig roast, will not be the pick of the litter for Thai women in Pattaya any more? We will get dumped for the rich Chinese? Depends how the Thai's implement their casino policy. Maybe they will make some small and exclusive casinos for "whales" with no nightclubs, sports bars etc. Where's the social harm to Thai's in this case? Maybe they will make huge casino resorts with everything from buffets to helipads etc. From what I have seen in Sihanoukville, the casinos there pushed land prices up, therefore rents, so the businesses catering for westerners drinking $0.50USD beers couldn't pay the increased rents. Sound familiar? A lot of those business owners are now down in Kampot.
August 17, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Leaver said: Depends how the Thai's implement their casino policy. Maybe they will make some small and exclusive casinos for "whales" with no nightclubs, sports bars etc. Where's the social harm to Thai's in this case? Maybe they will make huge casino resorts with everything from buffets to helipads etc. From what I have seen in Sihanoukville, the casinos there pushed land prices up, therefore rents, so the businesses catering for westerners drinking $0.50USD beers couldn't pay the increased rents. Sound familiar? A lot of those business owners are now down in Kampot. Maybe they won't make any?
August 17, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, HashBrownHarry said: Maybe they won't make any? How long will that last? 5 years, 10 years, 20 years? Eventually, it will be seen as progress and happen.
August 17, 20214 yr 23 minutes ago, Leaver said: How long will that last? 5 years, 10 years, 20 years? Eventually, it will be seen as progress and happen. how long will what last?
August 17, 20214 yr Most girls I saw here are already playing on slot machine apps on their phones. One even said it was her living now.
August 17, 20214 yr 31 minutes ago, HashBrownHarry said: how long will what last? Another good question, Harry. Thailand being regressive, it good take some time. By then, gamblers, and tourists, will have gone elsewhere.
August 17, 20214 yr 15 hours ago, redwood1 said: So your saying the Soi Bukow ,balloon chaser, make one beer last all night, going back for 3rds and 4ths at the free pig roast, will not be the pick of the litter for Thai women in Pattaya any more? We will get dumped for the rich Chinese? For most Chinese tourists your particular behaviour would be considered extravagant,
August 18, 20214 yr On 8/16/2021 at 10:15 PM, BigStar said: Rose-tinted rearview mirror, love it. Fortunately, we have contemporary accounts to tell us how it really was. Not so great, as it turns out: There are two types of articles appearing in the Pattaya Mail with regularity: those where business and political leaders decry the decline in tourism and propose ways to improve the situation; and a steadily increasing number of reports of tourists being insulted, assaulted, drugged, robbed and extorted. . . . It doesn’t matter if the streets are cleared of garbage, no one is going to walk down them if doing so leaves them open to being insulted and assaulted. Having a beach promenade doesn’t matter if strolling along it means taking the risk of being knocked down and robbed. No one is going to participate in the vibrant night-life if there is a good chance that they will wake up three days later in the hospital with all their possessions gone, or in some cases, not wake up at all. No one is going to seek an exotic experience if it means they might be set up by girls with both a legal age and under age ID, and then extorted for immense sums by the police. Pattaya is being inundated with rude obnoxious thugs who do not care about the city or its visitors. They do not listen to the community leaders, and the police do not have the budget or manpower to control them. They are driving away the tourists and the income and jobs that they bring. Inevitably, this rabble will win as they reduce everyone to their level of poverty. Meanwhile, tourism to Cambodia is increasing by 50% every six months... --Lawrence Neal, "Down on Pattaya," Pattaya Mail, Vol. V No.5, Friday 31 January 1997 - 6 February 1997. The beneficent Golden Egg Layers supporting the entire Thai economy had run out of golden eggs and, driven away, were heading for the exits to the paradise of Cambodia. Tourism down. Rude obnoxious thugs inundating the streets, police powerless. Tourists insulted, assaulted, drugged, robbed and extorted. Thais being reduced to poverty! OMG!!! What to do? Took about a decade to figure out. Where did I say anything about Pattaya? Never mind, take every opportunity to let the sarcasm roll.
August 18, 20214 yr On 7/22/2021 at 6:24 PM, johng said: I went to Tescos'ss and Big C south Pattaya today to stock up on beer and indeed everything in both where shut except for the pharmacy and the supermarket Big C on Pattaya Klang has been fully open the 2 or 3 times i have been there the last 10 days or so.
August 18, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, hereforgood said: Big C on Pattaya Klang has been fully open the 2 or 3 times i have been there the last 10 days or so. Yes, the supermarket has been open and seemingly fully stocked.
August 18, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, hereforgood said: Big C on Pattaya Klang has been fully open the 2 or 3 times i have been there the last 10 days or so. Fully open ? including all the small shops/stalls,restaurants and food hall ?
August 18, 20214 yr 5 minutes ago, johng said: Fully open ? including all the small shops/stalls,restaurants and food hall ? Nope.......They are closed.....
August 18, 20214 yr 41 minutes ago, redwood1 said: Nope.......They are closed..... So not "fully open" then ????
August 18, 20214 yr 5 hours ago, jacko45k said: Yes, the supermarket has been open and seemingly fully stocked. Big C Extra is getting quieter daily, yesterday the first time I've seen some shelves empty of stock
August 18, 20214 yr 26 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said: Big C Extra is getting quieter daily, yesterday the first time I've seen some shelves empty of stock Well I must admit my usual bread was not there Sunday and not as many customers as usual... thought maybe it was as I was early. Like a slow death....
August 18, 20214 yr 33 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said: Big C Extra is getting quieter daily, yesterday the first time I've seen some shelves empty of stock Big C extra was/is? the most busy supermarket in Pattaya in my opinion......So this is a bad sign....
August 18, 20214 yr Popular Post 6 hours ago, johng said: Fully open ? including all the small shops/stalls,restaurants and food hall ? The big C its self is fully open none roped off all electronics clothing and everything else. The non big c shops are indeed closed
August 18, 20214 yr 43 minutes ago, redwood1 said: Big C extra was/is? the most busy supermarket in Pattaya in my opinion......So this is a bad sign.... I was thinking if the decline continues like this even they might consider closing. The problem is the food court and the rest are all closed so people aren't bothering to go there
August 23, 20214 yr On 8/18/2021 at 7:09 AM, thaibeachlovers said: Where did I say anything about Pattaya? Never mind, take every opportunity to let the sarcasm roll. Where did you exclude Pattaya in the topic Pattaya: Dead as a Dodo in the Pattaya forum, in response to HashBrownHarry's response to the subtopic of casinos reviving Pattaya?
August 26, 20214 yr On 8/18/2021 at 2:41 PM, scubascuba3 said: I was thinking if the decline continues like this even they might consider closing. The problem is the food court and the rest are all closed so people aren't bothering to go there it's obvious there will be a decline in choice and variety here in the future, which causes prices to rise.
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