3 months of semi-lockdown required to bring pandemic under control – KKP Research

[Dog walker]

Mass vaccination for both Thai's and Foreigners is the only answer, 7 days a week. Instead of every day just adding more restrictions day by day. Take a look at the western world, some sense of normality is returning in most places. Make it happen in Thailand.

[bougnat]

14 hours ago, 2 is 1 said:

Let your currency float and get value something like 1$ is 45 bth then your export industry go up like rocket. Also you maybe get tourist in country some day in future!

Thailand thailand bought 41 tonnes of gold in april and 47 tonnes in may to support its currency, as did all countries in Asia. So don't dream, bath will stay strong.

[metisdead]

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[RichardColeman]

 

2 hours ago, Tonypandy said:

The vaccine won't be completed in 3 months, plus you mention if the Chinese vaccine is not used. Do you think that if non Chinese vaccine is used that then no one well get Covid. Stop dreaming! 

Not at all, people vaccinated in the UK are still getting covid, but deaths are not spiking as much as those in chinese gunk countries. That's the point

[metisdead]

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[smudger1951]

10 hours ago, John Drake said:

Three more months of this extending to more provinces and Thailand will breakdown and come apart at the seams.

Last straw that broke the camels back comes to mind. Back home in NE Isaan my wife tells me people come to the home everyday asking to do work.

[J Town]

15 hours ago, roger101 said:

They call this a semi lockdown. It's about as near to a total lockdown as you can get. Just to let you know I'm in Pattaya.

Also in Pattaya. I usually cook at home. Last night I felt like getting takeout, so I went to the new Taco Bell. Two kids in Taco Bell uniforms, sitting outside Royal Garden said no takeaway, online order only. Same with ALL fast food joints there. I spent an hour driving around looking for ANYTHING. Tesco on Sukhumvit and Thepprasit, the escalator to the upstairs food court wasn't even on. Only one Pizza Company store was open to order, and all they had was an 18" New York style pepperoni pizza - no thank you. I am expecting to see Zombies walking the streets fairly soon.

[Kalasin Jo]

9 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

As someone stuck outside of Thailand for 16 months away from the family, I would support this, even though it would mean more time away.

 

BUT.

 

The issue is unless their vaccine program is completely finished by 3 months - and a non  chinese vaccine used -  then it will just explode again on opening and my time away extended further.

 

Tell me I could plan to start coming back without hoops in exactly 6 months and I'd be not exactly happy, but OK.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Returnees should be allowed to self isolate at home. Unlikely I'll be back until the current hoops and expense are done away with. 

[smudger1951]

9 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

As someone stuck outside of Thailand for 16 months away from the family, I would support this, even though it would mean more time away.

 

BUT.

 

The issue is unless their vaccine program is completely finished by 3 months - and a non  chinese vaccine used -  then it will just explode again on opening and my time away extended further.

 

Tell me I could plan to start coming back without hoops in exactly 6 months and I'd be not exactly happy, but OK.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Same, same, if inter provincial travel is restricted and visitors are therefore kept in their sandboxes like Phuket many like me will see not any point in going this year.

[RayD]

So the boffins think three months of lockdown will bring the virus under control?

 

I have an alternative suggestion. Covid is a seasonal virus and will decline at the end of the wet season. When is the end of the wet season? Three months? Oh, jolly clever boffins, jolly clever indeed.

[ibtg68]

16 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

And yet the baht hardly moves.

It is a mystery for sure.

I’m not one of these argumentative a$$hats looking to poop all over everybody’s post but I just checked the exchange rate for the US Dollar. At the moment it’s trading at 32.93 Baht. Here’s a look at what the exchange rate has been over the last year. The £, € and Dollars of Canada, Australia and New Zealand all appear to be doing better now as well when looking at their values over the course of the last year.  Maybe it’s not a lot of movement for some but the exchange rate is moving more to the favor of Westerners here in Thailand. 
 

 

[iamariva1957]

Should have happened a while ago now the moment that the Delta variant raised it ugly head. But no... the Sandbox idea was so much more important than the rest of the country! Must bring in the money.... spent on an island and not throughout the country (well.... for 14 days at least). This is not going to get better and now with Thailand trying to sign into the international vaccine procurement program that everyone else in the region did but Thailand was too cheap to do (or rather too far in bed with China to do)... well we will see what happens. But the situation is not going to get better and there will be more people dyeing and the hospitals will be further stretches than they already are (already sending people to home to quarantine). 

"Patients is require, The is situation is fluid,  It is a process".... but enough with those usual government issued explanations... just GET A MOVE ON!

[HiSoLowSoNoSo]

Seems like a textbook how to destroy the country's economy, even richer countries failed with long lockdowns. Sweden never locked down and had not one dead from Corvid yesterday, and they used mostly Pfizer. 

[aussienam]

Hmm, another three months lockdown? The bars and clubs in Pattaya and elsewhere have already been shut for three months from the second wave lockdown and are going bankrupt (several already).  So, up to six months of being shut.  100% going to be mass bankruptcies and ruined owners walking away soon for sure.  This is a death knell.  Psychologically ruinous.

Vaccines need to desperately be obtained en masse and extremely rapidly for any hope left.

Yes there are industries that can still operate and when it reverts back to red zone or orange zone, at their full capacity.  But this still does not include premises that serve alcohol. 

This is going to absolutely destroy this area.

I don't care about the crooked owners of questionable pasts, who have obtained clubs and bars through laundered money, etc.  They can rot in hell.  Unfortunately they always seem to come back and have finances.  

I am talking about the many legitimate small business owners who bought into the bar industry and are now being wiped out completely. Bring on the suicides, the next depressing chapter. 

[AnotherFarang8]

People need to pause having food for 3 months. This will cure them of all viruses. Because viruses do not attack the dead.

[tonray]

3 hours ago, Mr Derek said:

They just haven't studied it enough yet

A guy who believes the earth is flat told me the exact same thing

[chilly07]

I hope Thais 'politicians' and capitalists can now see clearly the link between the reduction in their exorbitant income and the ridiculously slow vaccine roll out and concentrate on vaccine procurement. If they bend their avaricious minds jointly to procurement  ignoring profit the problem can be solved almost overnight and then they can get back to raking in the billions again

[Dont confuse me]

3 months of semi lockdown = 3 months semi control of spread of virus!

For once do something properly, 100% lockdown not half hearted lip service particularly when it's 8 months to late!

Give the people money to live you moronic idiots.

[jacko45k]

3 hours ago, Globaleyes said:

If you think the 99% figure is wrong, can you show some evidence for a different one?

Other end of the scale... Peru, 195,547 deaths and 2,099,522 cases. 

90.7%

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/peru/

 

World total. 4,151,729 deaths, 193,429,183 cases 97.8%

I suspect some of the cases are repeat infections too... deaths don't get repeated.

 

The claim was MORE than 99%.... often brought in by those in denial.

Edited July 23, 2021 by jacko45k

[Magenta408]

Any decree on full or partial lockdowns must come from the "Czar" or the Parliament. They are the ones to impose these sorts of measures.

[Chivas]

16 hours ago, 2 is 1 said:

Let your currency float and get value something like 1$ is 45 bth then your export industry go up like rocket. Also you maybe get tourist in country some day in future!

lol the currency IS floated and it happened in 1997 when the peg was removed to the benchmark $

Despite it dropping this last few months Thailands foreign currency reserves are still monstrous at the 10th highest in the world

Edited July 23, 2021 by Chivas

[Derek B]

17 hours ago, 2 is 1 said:

Let your currency float and get value something like 1$ is 45 bth then your export industry go up like rocket. Also you maybe get tourist in country some day in future!

Hope so.................

[hashmodha]

17 hours ago, 2 is 1 said:

Let your currency float and get value something like 1$ is 45 bth then your export industry go up like rocket. Also you maybe get tourist in country some day in future!

I couldn't agree more with this...and the £ back to around 75/80..... which it what it was back in 2003?....I think.....The Euro towards 55!....❤️

[John Drake]

1 hour ago, Dont confuse me said:

Give the people money to live

Doubt we will ever see that.

[Bkktodd]

11 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

As someone stuck outside of Thailand for 16 months away from the family, I would support this, even though it would mean more time away.

 

BUT.

 

The issue is unless their vaccine program is completely finished by 3 months - and a non  chinese vaccine used -  then it will just explode again on opening and my time away extended further.

 

Tell me I could plan to start coming back without hoops in exactly 6 months and I'd be not exactly happy, but OK.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry you cant see your family….but ive made 2 trips back to Thailand  with quarantines included since January 21.  Why cant you then???  

[Bkktodd]

3 hours ago, flyfrog said:

You probably dont have a business in Thailand MR. Test driver? Dont care much?

Probally doesnt even live in Thailand 

[Jiggo]

18 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

That's probably what they'll gona go for, semi-lockdown with multiple sandboxes. An experiment bound to fail. 

Sandboxes will be history, as are the Travel Bubbles.

[superal]

5 hours ago, John Drake said:

I don't know if you live here. But if you do, and things do come unglued, those of us who are foreigners may think we can sit it out. But don't be surprised if while taking so much as a 100 meter walk to the nearest ATM you are robbed and beaten. People desperate for money to pay their rent, find food for their family, or pay their electric bill are going to see you as the natural target. Of course, I could be wrong, and I suppose the police will do everything in their power to protect you.

Indeed , desperate people do desperate things . There is no social safety net in Thailand and the government will do everything in their power to hang on to their foreign reserves to protect the baht , even at the expense of their own people . The closure of factories and reduction of working hours will lead to a massive increase in household debts which are already at a high level . 

To bring things back to normality in Thailand there needs to be a national lockdown for some months to halt the virus spread . Then the properly planned vaccination rollout can take place . Maybe Thailand needs some help or assistance in doing this ?  What is happening right now in Thailand is becoming a real cause for concern and I choose my words carefully . Starvation and the lack of medical care will almost certainly follow . It will also be a case of those who have money and those without . Supermarket shelves will be cleared by hoarders .  This scenario has already played out in western countries but they have social safety nets , food banks and democracy .

[MrJ2U]

Semi lockdown to match the semi mass vaccination.

[John Drake]

1 minute ago, superal said:

Starvation and the lack of medical care will almost certainly follow .

A personal experience. Two days ago, I went to a nearby private hospital to get medicine I take for a vestibular disorder.  It is Thai manufactured and a better alternative than the imported version. Couldn't get it. The physician checked with the hospital pharmacy when writing the prescription and they told him the company was in lockdown because of Covid and not shipping medicine for another month at least. The hospital was already out of the imported alternative. I visited a couple of private pharmacies until I found one with a couple of boxes of the imported med still in stock. More of this type thing will happen.