Phuket Opinion: A storm is brewing

[Red Forever]

4 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Thailand COVID deaths 3,500, UK COVID deaths 130,000, US COVID deaths 610,000.

What do you have to say about the UK & US governments SM?

Can't speak for S.M. but what I would say about the handling of the Covid crisis in USA and UK is that it was criminally ignored initially (Feb 2020) then woefully managed to date 

Add Brazil to the aforementioned and the picture becomes clear.

All 3 countries are/were governed by incompetent, narcissistic right wing "leaders". In the case of Johnson, Sir Patrick Vallance unambiguously attributed at least 20,000 early deaths to Johnson's dithering over lockdown in March 2020.

As for Prayuth......

[Uroller]

4 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Thailand COVID deaths 3,500, UK COVID deaths 130,000, US COVID deaths 610,000.

What do you have to say about the UK & US governments SM?

What I would say is that their vaccine rollout is a million times better than Thailand’s, you might want to rethink those numbers very soon as UK & US have done a 1000 times the testing that Thailand has done and not heard of dead bodies in the street yet????

[spidermike007]

17 minutes ago, connda said:

Even funnier, can you imagine Prawit as a bodyguard?

It shows you what a farce the Thai army is. I think the last time they faced a real enemy was the Japanese invasion of Prachuap Khiri Khan? And they folded within hours. Imagine these clowns facing a real enemy, in the real world? Instead, they make enemies out of their own people, to show how tough they are. Just wait. 

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 minute ago, spidermike007 said:

It shows you what a farce the Thai army is. I think the last time they faced a real enemy was the Japanese invasion of Prachuap Khiri Khan? And they folded within hours. Imagine these clowns facing a real enemy, in the real world? Instead, they make enemies out of their own people, to show how tough they are. Just wait. 

Yes, Imagine if they faced a "real army"..................like the Taliban or the Viet Cong , they would probably have to disappear under the cover of darkness , no match for a proper army.....................these Thais ????

[connda]

5 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

you know things are bad when old girlfriends I have not heard from in years are texting saying they forgive me. 

 

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Funny that. My ex tried to contact me through facethingy via my sister ( I don't use facethingy ) to ask me to come back.

It didn't work.

And pretty soon immigration is going to get even more Machiavellian as dirty unvaccinated farang are a danger to Thai national security.  Soon it will be mandated to get the shot.  No matter if you can't get a shot.  It will be mandatory for dirty farang national security risks.

"No Woxine, no stay in Thailand.  You must get Woxine."
"I've tried but all the hospitals refuse to give me a vaccination.  They say, 'Thai first, farang last. All Thai vaccinated before farang.'"
"No Woxine, no stay in Thailand.  Go to private hospital.  Pay for Woxine."
I've tried that but the private hospital say they aren't excepting registration.  And Thai first, farang last. All Thai vaccinated before farang. And vaccine no come until 2022."
"No Woxine, no stay in Thailand.  You go back to you country get Woxine."
"If I go back to my home country my elderly Thai wife has to fend for herself.  Maybe two months.  Maybe two years.  Maybe forever.  Thai Government policy is impossible to predict.  The Thai government doesn't take care of my elderly wife.  Only me.  Are you going to care for my elderly Thai wife?"
"No Woxine, no stay in Thailand.  Make plan to leave soon.  Dirty farang must leave."
"What about my elderly wife?"
"Wife can eat rice chaff and graze with buffalo in field.  She make big problem for Prathet Thai when marry dirty farang. 

Edited July 26, 2021 by connda

[sucit]

7 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Not just Social discontent, but people who are suffering and their families are being left to fend for themselves.  Many others who have a little more are sharing as they can while this Governments social services net inadequacies has been exposed for what it is.  You either pay into a programs and then pay taxes then you are entitled to a meager handout.  If you were never lucky enough to have a job outside of living under the table, well then you are left to fend for your own.  I know families that are also suffering from severe depression and others who have lost everything they had because of the lack of ability to operate their businesses while they watch the folks who have friends in high places still keep their companies, factories, construction sites open.  I hope that the public does wake up from the abuse they have been living under and is able to one day take their beautiful country back.  Until then if you are able to assist them like my GF and I are please adopt a few families and buy them the necessities to live a daily life, they are extremely happy to accept it, many are to proud to ask, but the smiles you see when you give them the necessities show it is worth it.

Lol

 

the cause of all of that was premature lockdowns, which you seem to be a big supporter of. 
 

Nobody is part of the solution until they start encouraging the govt to open the country for the sake of the working people of Thailand. That includes you. 

[spidermike007]

8 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Yes, Imagine if they faced a "real army"..................like the Taliban or the Viet Cong , they would probably have to disappear under the cover of darkness , no match for a proper army.....................these Thais ????

The first ones who would defect would be the generals. Likely some of the softest men in the nation. They would likely wet their pants, if faced with live rounds of ammunition. 

Edited July 26, 2021 by spidermike007

[connda]

1 hour ago, 2umich said:

Why would government to bother about vaccine rollout if they can just lock you down. Imagine what government would do if everyone refuse to be locked.

Imagine what government would do if everyone refuse to be locked.
2014.

"Political power flows through the barrel of a gun.
-Mao Zedong

[connda]

1 hour ago, Mansell said:

All this nightmare proves is that military leaders are the last people to be in charge, especially in what amounts to a national emergency.

Let's not even mention a billionaire construction tycoon donning a medical smock and pretending to be a Health Minister during a declared "Global Killer Pandemic."

[ThailandRyan]

Just now, sucit said:

Lol

 

the cause of all of that was premature lockdowns, which you seem to be a big supporter of. 
 

Nobody is part of the solution until they start encouraging the govt to open the country for the sake of the working people of Thailand. That includes you. 

Premature Lockdowns? Not a fan of lock downs at all, just believe that to keep the lion at bay one must take care of the populace, which these folks have never done.  Moreover Prayut blames his own people for the spread instead of standing tall and accepting responsibility.  But hey you don't care you just want the country wide open, will will ensure thousands of more deaths and then families destroyed even further. There is a balance that could be obtained with the lockdowns and that comes with the price of spending money to take care of folks in those areas.  Why do you think people flee the places that are being locked down, it is called they are going home to share in whatever the family has available to them.  If the Government put forth half of the effort in obtaining welfare packages for all Thais instead of weapons of war and in creating a space program then we may not have that problem.  Question for you, have you helped a family in need, even before Covid, or just found a way around everything in life to get what you needed for yourself.  Thai people are proud and having to take a handout for them is a true loss of self, unlike in the west where people quit jobs because they can get more in welfare and unemployment, no such social welfare packages here.

[connda]

19 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

It shows you what a farce the Thai army is. I think the last time they faced a real enemy was the Japanese invasion of Prachuap Khiri Khan? And they folded within hours. Imagine these clowns facing a real enemy, in the real world? Instead, they make enemies out of their own people, to show how tough they are. Just wait. 

But but but - They were not conquered.  No foreign invader has ever conquered "Prathet Thai" where the Sun, Moon, Stars all revolve around and all the lesser Gods bow down and revere. 
Thai history says so!  It must be 100% true!

[connda]

19 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Yes, Imagine if they faced a "real army"..................like the Taliban or the Viet Cong , they would probably have to disappear under the cover of darkness , no match for a proper army.....................these Thais ????

Submarines will save them!

[Mac Mickmanus]

10 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

The first ones who would defect would be the generals. Likely some of the softest men in the nation. They would likely wet their pants, if faced with live rounds of ammunition. 

Did you miss the fact that I was refencing the U.S Army ?

[3NUMBAS]

6 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

you know things are bad when old girlfriends I have not heard from in years are texting saying they forgive me. 

surprised they still have their sim cards as many cant aford to top up each month so let them fail.    none of my old birds still have their numbers in force and they have had them for many years

[J Town]

3 hours ago, xylophone said:

Until then if you are able to assist them like my GF and I are please adopt a few families and buy them the necessities to live a daily life, they are extremely happy to accept it, many are to proud to ask, but the smiles you see when you give them the necessities show it is worth it.

I've adopted a woman, her DNA daughter and her adopted daughter. 10k baht/month will stave off hunger and homelessness. Thailand is one of the wealthiest nations on the planet. I guess how they got that way is shameless greed and selfishness.

[SCOTT FITZGERSLD]

5 hours ago, Peabody said:

Are you in Phuket? Patong is nothing as you describe

I Am in phuket now and i did not see any sex tourist. acctually i saw few families and farang couples, so why to talk dirty?

pitty is that most shops are closed, propably for ever. what a shame. will take years

for this place to recover even if covid is gone tomorrow and all business back to normal.

[SCOTT FITZGERSLD]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I doubt anyone became a billionaire by giving their money to other people.

GOERGE SOROS DID !!

[pookondee]

1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Yes, Imagine if they faced a "real army"..................like the Taliban or the Viet Cong , they would probably have to disappear under the cover of darkness , no match for a proper army.....................these Thais ????

Thailand vs. Taliban or Viet Cong? 

thats a bit like putting Manny Pacman up against Tyson Fury. 

 

As far as dissapearing under darkness goes maybe Thailand vs. The French would be a fairer match ????

[ChC1]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I doubt anyone became a billionaire by giving their money to other people.

The rich in Thailand are seriously rich, and I expect them to still be seriously rich when corona departs. I for one doubt they will be "helping" poor people.

Ask yourself why, before corona, western people had to run charities in LOS.

Billionaires do help. They open up hotels, restaurants, mini-marts and malls to employ lowly skilled labours otherwise has no job security. They could just sit on the money. Of course they earn a little from such business activities too. But the point is, they do not need to as they already have too much money. Not to mention their normal business activities would provide a lot of job opportunities, which in turn helps the society. Give money for free to the poor was never the answer. Give money to someone else to gift the poor is an even worse idea. Establish business that employ people, especially the lower skilled people are the key to help the society. 

 

If the billionaire stops expand his business activities and be stagnant in employee the mass, instead come up dreams to go to the space, concentrate his wealth in a small area that only benefits a small handful of highly skilled people, that is more dangerous.  

 

Of course the billionaires can only do so little. I am not disputing the facts that many Thai remain marginalised. However, I would like to point out to you that billionaires do help through their business expansions. It can not reach everyone in the society, but without them the life in the country would be even worse. As long as they invest in real business to provide employment to the mass, instead of investing in bitCoin or space exploration, I have no objection for their existence.  

[thaibeachlovers]

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

It shows you what a farce the Thai army is. I think the last time they faced a real enemy was the Japanese invasion of Prachuap Khiri Khan? And they folded within hours. Imagine these clowns facing a real enemy, in the real world? Instead, they make enemies out of their own people, to show how tough they are. Just wait. 

You think they had a show of repelling the Japanese? They doubtless decided that there was no point in dying for nothing and accepted the inevitable.

No shame in being realistic.

 

Even the British army in Malaya/ Singapore couldn't defeat the invasion.

[xylophone]

9 hours ago, IamNoone88 said:

10,000, mostly very low quality tourists looking for beers and bar girls while riding around on cheap scooters.

Interesting you should say that, and although there seems to be some expats who have come back to open up their small businesses, witness the newly arrived numbers of tattooed uglies wandering around the place, a few others I have encountered would fit your description.

 

Just two days ago a guy, newly arrived from England, stopped me and asked if I spoke English, so I said I did and he asked me if I lived here, so I said I did, and he then said that was good because he wanted to ask me a question: – "I want to get from here to the Ibis hotel and the motorbike taxi driver has quoted 50 baht, and I think that's a bit steep, what do you think?".

Well of course I was flabbergasted to think that anyone would quibble over 50 baht, and the thought that he wouldn't be spending much here immediately came to mind. My reply to him was that 50 baht was a minimum payment as a rule, and he should settle for that and consider it money well spent.

 

A 'high-roller'.......not a chance and if TAT are relying on the likes of this guy to bring in the billions they need to think again. Having said that he might provide a massage girl or two with some funds to buy somtam!.
 

Edited July 26, 2021 by xylophone

[NCC1701A]

6 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said:

surprised they still have their sim cards as many cant aford to top up each month so let them fail.    none of my old birds still have their numbers in force and they have had them for many years

i make them get tattoos. 

[spidermike007]

16 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

You think they had a show of repelling the Japanese? They doubtless decided that there was no point in dying for nothing and accepted the inevitable.

No shame in being realistic.

 

Even the British army in Malaya/ Singapore couldn't defeat the invasion.

They actually did wage a battle, unaware that Bangkok had already surrendered. 41 men and boys lost their lives.

 

But while the rest of the country laid down arms, Srisak and a small band of 120 soldiers at the Ao Manao airbase resisted the invaders for 33 hours, unaware of Bangkok’s capitulation. Over a third would die by the end of the battle.

 

https://www.khaosodenglish.com/featured/2018/09/08/33-hours-of-defiance-the-thai-airmen-who-resisted-an-empire/

 

 

[spidermike007]

18 hours ago, connda said:

Let's not even mention a billionaire construction tycoon donning a medical smock and pretending to be a Health Minister during a declared "Global Killer Pandemic."

He may know cement, but he sure don't know medicine!

[thaibeachlovers]

On 7/27/2021 at 2:59 PM, spidermike007 said:

They actually did wage a battle, unaware that Bangkok had already surrendered. 41 men and boys lost their lives.

 

But while the rest of the country laid down arms, Srisak and a small band of 120 soldiers at the Ao Manao airbase resisted the invaders for 33 hours, unaware of Bangkok’s capitulation. Over a third would die by the end of the battle.

 

https://www.khaosodenglish.com/featured/2018/09/08/33-hours-of-defiance-the-thai-airmen-who-resisted-an-empire/

 

 

Unfortunately that is par for the course.

Every war is chaos, IMO. How many troops died from "friendly fire" in the wars last century?

 

I was in the military so I know about the incompetence.

 

[Espanol]

On 7/27/2021 at 4:59 AM, spidermike007 said:

But while the rest of the country laid down arms, Srisak and a small band of 120 soldiers at the Ao Manao airbase resisted the invaders for 33 hours, unaware of Bangkok’s capitulation. Over a third would die by the end of the battle.

 

Spanish defenders of Baler (Philippines), resisted 337 days under siege (July 1st 1898-June 2nd 1899) because they never beleived that Spain had surrendered to the USA.

 

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sitio_de_Baler

 

 

[d123]

On 7/26/2021 at 12:18 PM, spidermike007 said:

Can you even imagine having him as one of your guards? He would be the last one I would ever choose to protect me. Must have been a favor of some sort.

Prior to his current position, the last position the good general held was being in charge of the military responsible for the defence of this realm. He must have done a good job because I don’t recall the country being invaded during his watch

 

 

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