Thai Research Indicates Vaccine Cocktail of Sinovac and AstraZeneca Is Very Effective

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By Subhabhong Rarueysong

   

BANGKOK (NNT) - Thailand’s Centre of Excellence in Clinical Virology, at the Faculty of Medicine of Chulalongkorn University, reports that a vaccine cocktail of Sinovac and AstraZeneca is highly effective.

 

The centre’s head, Dr. Yong Poovorawan, said two doses of inactivated virus vaccine help immunity rise to an average level of 100 units. If two doses of the vector vaccine are given 10 weeks apart, the immune system will rise to 900 units. If the vaccines are alternated, inactivated virus followed by the vector virus type at 3-4 weeks intervals, the recipient achieved a high immunity of 700 units.

 

However, two doses of the inactivated virus vaccine, followed by the virus vector vaccine, as front-line medical personnel are now doing, has been found to provide an average immunity boost of 10,000 units.

 

Dr. Yong added that the center is currently conducting in-depth research into its ability to block each variant of the virus, including Delta. From past data, the Delta strain evades immunity and higher levels of immunity are needed, until a vaccine that addresses the specific strain or second-generation vaccines are available.

 

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[ThailandRyan]

So where is this study?  Can he give us a link to the statistical side of the study showing the number of those vaccinated with both the Sinovac and Az vaccine.  Was this done using animals, or in Humans.  Are they following those people and checking on them daily, are they filling out an online form to show basic functions such as fever and symptoms they might have, or following them to see what side effects they may be having after the mixture.  Are the stats he stated from his own views and research in a controlled environment, if so these must just be in the early stages and is his conjecture based upon a Hypothesis. Where has this been peer reviewed.  Trying to see how and where he obtained this information from if they just started mixing the doses and giving them to individuals a little over two weeks ago.  

8 minutes ago, webfact said:

two doses of inactivated virus vaccine help immunity rise to an average level of 100 units. If two doses of the vector vaccine are given 10 weeks apart, the immune system will rise to 900 units. If the vaccines are alternated, inactivated virus followed by the vector virus type at 3-4 weeks intervals, the recipient achieved a high immunity of 700 units.

 

[mtls2005]

This guy's like the lass at the bar who will tell you whatever you want to hear, for a small fee.

 

Honestly, IMO, he should keep quiet. Every other day he comes out with a pronouncement, which often contradicts yesterday's announcement.

 

The public is already confused, Stop already. And it's not like they have an unlimited choice of cocktails.

 

Most take what they're given.

 

So what's the point?

 

I know, the point is he likes hear himself speak.

 

 

 

 

[BobinBKK]

Thai research... 5555555555555

[zhounan]

By now we have reached absurd levels of madness.

 

Anything that comes out of the mouth of this Big Pharma testimonial should be ignored.

Edited July 26, 2021 by zhounan

[Saltire]

I want to know what make and model of car he drives?

 

[BKKTRAVELER]

I think he is now working with TAT and their magical calculator. Soon, they'll have trillions of units of immunity.

 

All joking aside, I hope he is right and that the study is sound.

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Just now, BobinBKK said:

Thai research... 5555555555555

Funny. Lots of people who were happy to repeat earlier Thai research about the 40 day antibody half life after being vaccinated with Sinovac. But when the results of Thai research don't please them, then it's not believable.

[SooKee]

In other news, approval is being sought to conduct research into the survival rates of people who fall or jump from tall buildings to see whether death or serious injury can be avoided merely by closing the eyes. The astonishing discovery arises from a prominent Thai specialist viewing a number of video trials presented by the Looney Tunes Corporation, "an organisation that provides regular video briefings and does so in a format that even children can understand" he told us.

While the doctor confesses to not understanding 95% of the video content he is confident these trials will be more successful than his last experiment where two idiots subjects agreed to be fired from cannons in order to assess the potential for reductions in journey time, thereby improving road safety. Both test subjects died instantly however.

In order to improve the chances of success in the new trials the doctor is particularly seeking individuals having the Thai nickname of Duck, Rabbit or Dog (the Thai name for Coyote not being in common use in Thailand) as survival rates of people with those names in the video briefings appear markedly higher than amongst those with other names.

Edited July 26, 2021 by SooKee

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The problem with this article is that the article claims this is about the effectiveness of the vaccine. In relation to Covid "effectiveness" has meant how well a vaccine actually prevents transmission of the virus or the occurrence of any symptoms in the real world (Efficacy is about the same thing but in clinical trials). So there's no way effectiveness is being measured here. And I doubt that the Dr. Yong Poovorawan made such a claim. This is probably just a misuse of the term by the reporter.

 

"According to Gavi, a partnership between the World Health Organisation, UNICEF, the World Bank and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation which is co-leading the COVAX program to distribute COVID-19 vaccines in developing nations, "efficacy" refers to the degree to which a vaccine prevents disease in controlled circumstances such as a clinical trial, while effectiveness measures real-world results."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-09/coronacheck-vaccine-efficacy-effectiveness-whats-the-difference/100055578

 

[smedly]

publish the results - simple 

[smedly]

16 minutes ago, Saltire said:

I want to know what make and model of car he drives?

 

he drives/says whatever Prayut and Anutin tell too

[Mr Meeseeks]

32 minutes ago, webfact said:

Dr. Yong Poovorawan, said two doses of inactivated virus vaccine help immunity rise to an average level of 100 units. If two doses of the vector vaccine are given 10 weeks apart, the immune system will rise to 900 units. If the vaccines are alternated, inactivated virus followed by the vector virus type at 3-4 weeks intervals, the recipient achieved a high immunity of 700 units.

And the ramstein is connected to the mahexagorgon. 

[fondue zoo]

They do appear committed to ensuring the continued use of Sinovac.

But any results need to be peer reviewed.

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Also the headline is invalid. The results neither vindicate the combination nor discredit it. Human trials are needed for that.

[JonnyF]

Well I'm sure him and his loved ones will be taking a cocktail then?

 

What's that Doctor Yong? You're all already double jabbed with the best vaccines available months ago? Oh I see, this advice is just for the serfs... Gotcha...

[realfunster]

34 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Funny. Lots of people who were happy to repeat earlier Thai research about the 40 day antibody half life after being vaccinated with Sinovac. But when the results of Thai research don't please them, then it's not believable.

I am not one of the ‘lots of people’ you mention, for anything of importance in this country, I will always try to get a 2nd opinion, where possible, an international opinion. There is a reason Thailand is a developing country and it is not because they have world class scientists (or any other professions for that matter) dotted around freely. 

 

You may have seen the “questionable” VITT (blood clot)/AZ results published the other day.

It is a modern day miracle that Thailand had a strike rate of 1 in 5m vs other countries of between 1 in 125k-1m. So Thailand is in the range of 5x to 40x ‘better’.

 

So shall we praise the lord…or maybe consider that the balance of probabilities are that it was just an ineptly and incorrectly executed piece of research ?

[jvs]

So an average Joe like me who is not a doctor or a scientist could easily

understand(wrongly of course)that the Sinovac vaccine drags down the effectiveness

of the AZ?

One way of looking at it.

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1 hour ago, smedly said:

he drives/says whatever Prayut and Anutin tell too

So when he published results that showed a half life of 40 days for antibodies created in response to Sinovac, he was doing what he was told?

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53 minutes ago, realfunster said:

I am not one of the ‘lots of people’ you mention, for anything of importance in this country, I will always try to get a 2nd opinion, where possible, an international opinion. There is a reason Thailand is a developing country and it is not because they have world class scientists (or any other professions for that matter) dotted around freely. 

 

You may have seen the “questionable” VITT (blood clot)/AZ results published the other day.

It is a modern day miracle that Thailand had a strike rate of 1 in 5m vs other countries of between 1 in 125k-1m. So Thailand is in the range of 5x to 40x ‘better’.

 

So shall we praise the lord…or maybe consider that the balance of probabilities are that it was just an ineptly and incorrectly executed piece of research ?

You're confusing experimentation with gathering of statistics. And what do you actually know about scientific research in Thailand?

[Mango Bob]

But is it more effective then two shots of AZ?

 

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Just now, Mango Bob said:

But is it more effective then two shots of AZ?

 

Good thing Thailand has enough AZ so that this research can remain merely experimental...oh wait a minute...

[AhFarangJa]

1 hour ago, Saltire said:

I want to know what make and model of car he drives?

 

Here it is...............

[choff56]

Yes, “that’s the ticket”.

[Bkk Brian]

3 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

So where is this study?  Can he give us a link to the statistical side of the study showing the number of those vaccinated with both the Sinovac and Az vaccine.  Was this done using animals, or in Humans.  Are they following those people and checking on them daily, are they filling out an online form to show basic functions such as fever and symptoms they might have, or following them to see what side effects they may be having after the mixture.  Are the stats he stated from his own views and research in a controlled environment, if so these must just be in the early stages and is his conjecture based upon a Hypothesis. Where has this been peer reviewed.  Trying to see how and where he obtained this information from if they just started mixing the doses and giving them to individuals a little over two weeks ago.  

 

He'll be along with a facebook post shortly  55555 Thats the only time I've read Thai studies, around 300 words of claims

[jerrymahoney]

3 hours ago, jvs said:

So an average Joe like me who is not a doctor or a scientist could easily

understand(wrongly of course)that the Sinovac vaccine drags down the effectiveness

of the AZ?

One way of looking at it.

Here is another https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40003742 :

 

Edited July 26, 2021 by jerrymahoney

[XJPSX]

We are currently living the largest ever clinical trial of drugs that have not had long term effects determined. In this case humans are the lab rats.

[Bkk Brian]

5 hours ago, Mango Bob said:

But is it more effective then two shots of AZ?

 

No of course not.

[ftpjtm]

11 hours ago, webfact said:

Thai Research

I'm assuming this is the name of research that isn't peer reviewed and is not published in medical journals?

[Soikhaonoiken]

Don't you mean the AZ vaccine is very effective..... 

Edited July 26, 2021 by Soikhaonoiken
Wrong spelling