Popular Post snoop1130 Posted September 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2021 FILE PHOTO: A man relaxes on Karon beach as Phuket gets ready to open to overseas tourists from July 1 allowing fully vaccinated foreigns to visit the resort island without quarantine, Phuket, Thailand June 29, 2021. REUTERS/Jorge Silva BANGKOK (Reuters) - Thailand's disease control committee has proposed a halving of a two-week hotel isolation requirement for vaccinated arrivals, amid delays in plans to waive quarantine and reopen Bangkok and tourist destinations from next month. Thailand is keen to welcome back foreign visitors, after nearly 18 months of strict entry policies caused a collapse in tourism, a key sector that drew 40 million visitors in 2019. "Reducing the quarantine is not only about tourism, but will help business travel and foreign students," senior health official Opas Karnkawinpong told a news conference, adding tests would also be required. Under the proposal, to be presented to government on Monday, those without vaccination proof would be isolated for 10 days if arriving by air, and 14 days if by land. Authorities this week delayed to November plans to grant vaccinated visitors entry without quarantine, due to the country's low inoculation rate. Only Phuket and Samui islands currently waive quarantine for vaccinated tourists, as part of a pilot scheme. Less than a quarter of the estimated 72 million people living in Thailand have been fully vaccinated. The country is still fighting its most severe wave of infections, which has accounted for about 99% of its 1.5 million cases and 15,884 deaths. -- © Copyright Reuters 2021-09-23 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow ASEAN NOW on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 3 1 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Upnotover Posted September 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: halving of a two-week hotel isolation requirement 5 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: isolated for 10 days if arriving by air, and 14 days if by land. "Halving" obviously means something else in these parts. 20 1 2 1 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rebo Posted September 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2021 But still the CoE, still the insurance, still no alcohol in restaurants, still the early closings, still … Forget it …! 73 12 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kotsak Posted September 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2021 Even one day is one day too many.. 45 1 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gold Star Posted September 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2021 Once out of quarantine, can’t go to a bar, must be back before curfew, can’t wear sunscreen so can’t go out doing things in the sun during the day, why come at all? 29 4 6 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted September 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2021 Common sense would see the following... - Vaccinated arrivals no quarantine - Pre-flight PCR test requirement - Arrival PCR test requirement (24 hr home / hotel quarantine until negative result is known) Only until 70% of the population if vaccinated with an ‘effective’ vaccine (i.e. not Sinpharm / Sinovac, but with Pfizer, Moderna - vaccines of >90% efficacy) - Non vaccinated individuals (with out a medical certificate that they have a vaccine allergy etc) still quarantine (thats their choice). 27 1 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrJack54 Posted September 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2021 12 minutes ago, rebo said: But still the CoE, still the insurance, still no alcohol in restaurants, still the early closings, still … Forget it …! Wait on.....after new quarantine you can buy a beer at 7/11 and relax in your room. Just can't go to a bar. Netflix recommended. 3 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aussiexpat Posted September 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2021 Lift you up and then smash you back down. With 7 day ASQ I'd be booking my flight right now...but no, they still want 10 days, which would mean 11 nights.... ...so much for half ???? 9 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yorkshire Tea Posted September 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2021 10 minutes ago, aussiexpat said: Lift you up and then smash you back down. With 7 day ASQ I'd be booking my flight right now...but no, they still want 10 days, which would mean 11 nights.... ...so much for half ???? 10 days is for those without vaccination proof. 7 days for those with. 9 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ukrules Posted September 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2021 17 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: Common sense would see the following... - Vaccinated arrivals no quarantine - Pre-flight PCR test requirement - Arrival PCR test requirement (24 hr home / hotel quarantine until negative result is known) Only until 70% of the population if vaccinated with an ‘effective’ vaccine (i.e. not Sinpharm / Sinovac, but with Pfizer, Moderna - vaccines of >90% efficacy) - Non vaccinated individuals (with out a medical certificate that they have a vaccine allergy etc) still quarantine (thats their choice). Under your little plan above you doom the country on a permanent basis. There will never be 'home quarantine' - it will always involve some convoluted system of state control right down to when you can open your specially supervised by the military hotel door room. If the currently available vaccines are going to be accepted as in any way useful then there's no need to test vaccinated travelers, no need to quarantine them or anything else, just let them in and leave them alone. Until that happens the vast majority of people will simply go somewhere else. For most people their only requirement is warm weather during the the winter months and there's a lot of places within 10 hours flying time from Europe that provide that, those who remove any quarantine requirements will be the winners and people have long memories once they go somewhere new and like it. 29 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post steven100 Posted September 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2021 until they do away with quarantine, but provided the tourist shows their vaccination cert' ..... no one will come while you still have to sit in a hotel room, and outside is no beer, no fun, nothing. Let vaccinated tourists in and get tested during the stay. Quarantine for unvacinated, tests x2 , 9 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aussiexpat Posted September 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2021 20 minutes ago, Yorkshire Tea said: 10 days is for those without vaccination proof. 7 days for those with. Oops totally misread it (brain must have just assumed the worst lol) Thanks 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RotBenz8888 Posted September 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2021 59 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: halving of a two-week hotel isolation requirement Will make absolutely zero difference for the tourism. Even one single day of quaranten is a deterrent. And even if they would remove the quaranten completely, am certain they'll keep the multiple PCR tests and the 100.000usd insurance, which many other attractive destinations do not demand. No, Its quite obvious that the Thai tourism is and will be dead as a dodo for a foreseeable future. 27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andrew Dwyer Posted September 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2021 55 minutes ago, Upnotover said: "Halving" obviously means something else in these parts. Nope. It means exactly the same. 7 days for vaccinated and 10 days for unvaccinated. It is all in the OP. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alyx Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 33 minutes ago, Yorkshire Tea said: 10 days is for those without vaccination proof. 7 days for those with. Where is that implied ? On the contrary vaccination is mentioned... All I can read is "Thailand's disease control committee has proposed a halving of a two-week hotel isolation requirement for vaccinated arrivals" 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Salerno Posted September 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2021 1 minute ago, alyx said: Where is that implied ? All I can read is "Thailand's disease control committee has proposed a halving of a two-week hotel isolation requirement for vaccinated arrivals" Followed by: 1 hour ago, snoop1130 said: ...those without vaccination proof would be isolated for 10 days if arriving by air, and 14 days if by land. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post boogiewoogie Posted September 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2021 Bash overpriced PCR tests now! One is enough! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alyx Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Salerno said: Followed by: Yep, saw that but still does not make sense as it is in opposition with the title and the introductive paragraph 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Salerno Posted September 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2021 1 minute ago, alyx said: Yep, saw that but still does not make sense as it is in opposition with the title and the introductive paragraph You don't expect 100% clarity with the state of politics & journalism as they are now do you? 555 Basically sounds like they're looking to go back to the way it was for a short time around May. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alyx Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, Salerno said: You don't expect 100% clarity with the state of politics & journalism as they are now do you? 555 Basically sounds like they're looking to go back to the way it was for a short time around May. 555 you are correct.....honestly I was expecting a minimum of 50% ???? But after "trying" to read it again and again, it might mean that on one hand quarantine for vaccinated visitors would be halved and reduced to 11 nights for the non vaccinated whereas the one arriving by land will not see their status changed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djayz Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 1 hour ago, DrJack54 said: Wait on.....after new quarantine you can buy a beer at 7/11 and relax in your room. Just can't go to a bar. Netflix recommended. What every tourist has dreamed of all year long as they save for their winter holiday. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RJRS1301 Posted September 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2021 41 minutes ago, ukrules said: Under your little plan above you doom the country on a permanent basis. There will never be 'home quarantine' - it will always involve some convoluted system of state control right down to when you can open your specially supervised by the military hotel door room. If the currently available vaccines are going to be accepted as in any way useful then there's no need to test vaccinated travelers, no need to quarantine them or anything else, just let them in and leave them alone. Until that happens the vast majority of people will simply go somewhere else. For most people their only requirement is warm weather during the the winter months and there's a lot of places within 10 hours flying time from Europe that provide that, those who remove any quarantine requirements will be the winners and people have long memories once they go somewhere new and like it. Vaccination does not stop infection or transmission, people who are vaccinated can still become infected, to not test would be foolhardy 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrJack54 Posted September 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, djayz said: What every tourist has dreamed of all year long as they save for their winter holiday. JayJay market Bangkok last Sunday. Tourists dream. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yorkshire Tea Posted September 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said: Vaccination does not stop infection or transmission, people who are vaccinated can still become infected, to not test would be foolhardy Covid is already here. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Upnotover said: "Halving" obviously means something else in these parts. As well as how it's interpreted and promoted by the less than stunning journalistic acumen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post alyx Posted September 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2021 18 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said: Vaccination does not stop infection or transmission, people who are vaccinated can still become infected, to not test would be foolhardy Although your statement is correct what is the point in getting vaccinated and go through the same hurdles as if we were not vaccinated That makes common sense in the rest of the world: Europe ans US to only mention these Well. we need to get on with our lives. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted September 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2021 11 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said: Vaccination does not stop infection or transmission, people who are vaccinated can still become infected, to not test would be foolhardy That is a hugely dumbed down and oversimplified binary response… Vaccination cuts down infection, the severity of infection and transmission. Vaccination with vaccines reported to have a greater efficacy improve this to the degree that with sufficient numbers (percentages of a population) vaccinated with an effective vaccine testing may not be necessary at all. It is at this stage we move on with life and handle Covid-19 as we do other respiratory illnesses. 8 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zzaa09 Posted September 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2021 15 minutes ago, Salerno said: You don't expect 100% clarity with the state of politics & journalism as they are now do you? 555 Basically sounds like they're looking to go back to the way it was for a short time around May. The continuous rhetorical pronouncements are confusing enough, yet the wishy-washy strategy defies reasoning. For the last month [or more], the campaign appears to be ever-changing daily if not every third day - a new scheme is envisioned and then cancelled, changed, pushed back, revised or whatever. Stick with a program and go with it - hook or crook. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starky Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 (edited) So 16 days has been reduced to 12 days.? Massive. Slashed to the bone. And if it's "halved" for the vaccinated does that mean 9....and the 0 for the vaccinated in the sandbox might as well be 14 as there is not much to do and no more to go with lots of things closed. Huge effort. Edited September 23, 2021 by starky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starky Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Upnotover said: "Halving" obviously means something else in these parts. Rading comprehension lacking. 10 days for those arriving by air unvaccinated halving of the current 14 days for those fully vaccinated <deleted> at least read the OP first. Having said that my money is on 12 and 9. Edited September 23, 2021 by metisdead Profane acronym removed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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