Thailand seeks to slash quarantine period for visitors

[dkg224]

What don’t they understand that there needs to be no quarantine requirements for vaccinated people if they want tourists to come back. 
If they don’t want tourists just <deleted> say it. Going all this talk about tourists coming blah blah then making/keeping restrictions in place so they won’t come. 

[sapson]

3 hours ago, Bkktodd said:

Everything is not about a bar.  You can start drinking at 8am if you so wish ….I personally like my healthy liver

Of course its not just about bars, but having a glass of wine with your evening meal or a beer with the sunset etc is a pretty natural holiday expectation.

 

Anyway until full vaccination has reached 75% countrywide, tourists shouldnt visit because although alcohol is not served, Covid 19 is still readily available at many venues.

[JimmyJ]

23 hours ago, Gold Star said:

Once out of quarantine, can’t go to a bar,  must be back before curfew, can’t wear sunscreen so can’t go out doing things in the sun during the day, why come at all?

No sunscreen due to possible harm to coral reefs?

 

Cannot be worn anywhere? Or cannot be worn at the beach?

 

Is that the rule for the entire country or only certain areas?

[Rinrada]

35 minutes ago, dkg224 said:

What don’t they understand that there needs to be no quarantine requirements for vaccinated people if they want tourists to come back. 
If they don’t want tourists just <deleted> say it. Going all this talk about tourists coming blah blah then making/keeping restrictions in place so they won’t come. 

Yes agree....and suggest that the establishment come up with a realistic date to open the country...and its NOT next week...or even next month...maybe aim for Thai New Year...Songkran....

[puck2]

23 hours ago, kotsak said:

Even one day is one day too many.. 

Yes, the military regime doesn't won't to slash the money-milking pandemie cow. As long as possible!

[RJRS1301]

33 minutes ago, JimmyJ said:

No sunscreen due to possible harm to coral reefs?

 

Cannot be worn anywhere? Or cannot be worn at the beach?

 

Is that the rule for the entire country or only certain areas?

There are sunscreens without the harmful chems, that you can buy before coming.

 

 

[drenddy]

Money grabbing scheme.

[puck2]

22 hours ago, RJRS1301 said:

Vaccination does not stop infection or transmission, people who are vaccinated can still become infected, to not test would be foolhardy

 

22 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

That is a hugely dumbed down and oversimplified binary response…

 

Vaccination cuts down infection, the severity of infection and transmission. 
 

Vaccination with vaccines reported to have a greater efficacy improve this to the degree that with sufficient numbers (percentages of a population) vaccinated with an effective vaccine testing may not be necessary at all.

 

It is at this stage we move on with life and handle Covid-19 as we do other respiratory illnesses. 

 

It seems you have read RJRS' comment a little bit to fast. Look at the last part of his paragraph.

[ricorose]

OK, i dont understand all these quarantine storry anymore. By these days covid is almost everywhere around the world in any country. What can bring someone to Thailand (or any other country) what is not already there? ????

[RafPinto]

It still could work.

 

All single men, vaccinated, 14days in full quarantine, 5 massage girls on duty 24/24 plus free beer .

Most of them never see the beach or something else than their local bar.

 

For un-vaccinated single men, full quarantine for 3 weeks and same freebies as above.

 

There would be thousands of men, willing to sign up.

[Salerno]

3 minutes ago, ricorose said:

What can bring someone to Thailand (or any other country) what is not already there? ????

A new variant.

[Ty Hareways]

2 hours ago, Broken Record said:

Try Blackpool instead. 

Have you ever seen the 'ladies of the night' in Blackpool? ...and price for that matter????

[joecoolfrog]

The bottom line ;

This is what a potential visitor ( double vaccinated ) to Thailand will be considering ;

1) Will there be a period of quarantine?

2) Will a series of ( expensive ) tests be required during ones stay.

3) Will additional ' Covid ' insurance be required ?

4) Will domestic travel throughout the Kingdom be unrestricted ?

5) Will restaurants , bars , entertainment venues and tourist sites be fully open and not restricted ?

Until all these points can be answered in the negative , ie all is back to 'normal ' , then people such as myself will not be holidaying in Thailand.

Stop the fudging , its insulting our intelligence , stop playing politics or trying to make a few quid, just vaccinate the population and then FULLY open up the country !

[Blumpie]

4 hours ago, Chiang Mai Will said:

I have no desire to book a very expensive flight -- which will probably have the flight times changed 2 or 3 times -- have to stay in some crappy hotel, and pay for it, organise the required insurance, visa, and all documentation required -- just to check on our apartment and see mother-in-law!

 

Visit a country that has yet to vaccinate 50% of the population -- and restrictions on what businesses are open -- and possible travel restrictions being imposed whilst there?  Not likely!

I know right?  I don't understand these people that want to holiday in Thailand right now.  Nobody is coming.  Look at the numbers!

[ukrules]

9 hours ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

The Thai government are not making it easy for would be tourists who may only have 2 or 3 weeks vacation.

Sure they are, it's a simple decision : just go somewhere else.

[Bernietravelling]

Misleading headline: “Thailand seeks …”

 

The “disease control committee” has made a “proposal”,

 

 … only one of an endless number of institutions and persons in Thailand making proposals…

 

Finally only what’s decided in the cabinet and ends up in the Royal Gazette is relevant.

[bullseye66]

On 9/23/2021 at 11:22 AM, kotsak said:

Even one day is one day too many.. 

Agreed. When will these balloons understand that until ALL restrictions are dropped for fully vaccinated travellers no one is going to visit?

[zzaa09]

36 minutes ago, joecoolfrog said:

The bottom line ;

This is what a potential visitor ( double vaccinated ) to Thailand will be considering ;

1) Will there be a period of quarantine?

2) Will a series of ( expensive ) tests be required during ones stay.

3) Will additional ' Covid ' insurance be required ?

4) Will domestic travel throughout the Kingdom be unrestricted ?

5) Will restaurants , bars , entertainment venues and tourist sites be fully open and not restricted ?

Until all these points can be answered in the negative , ie all is back to 'normal ' , then people such as myself will not be holidaying in Thailand.

Stop the fudging , its insulting our intelligence , stop playing politics or trying to make a few quid, just vaccinate the population and then FULLY open up the country !

The authoritarian variety of Thainess patronage doesn't allow them to partake in any sort of common reasoning. 

[billd766]

1 hour ago, puck2 said:

 

It seems you have read RJRS' comment a little bit to fast. Look at the last part of his paragraph.

Why are Thais, the great majority who have only 1 or even no vaccinations not given the same treatment as the FULLY vaccinated foreign tourists.

 

They are far more likely to have Covid and pass it on.

 

I read the other paper in the mornings and there are still over 2,xxx cases daily but NONE of them seem to be foreign tourists. They are mostly Thai plus foreign workers if they can be found and blamed.

[ukrules]

4 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

The (supposedly powerful) Thai army leaders seem to be some of the weakest, least courageous, fearful and most paranoid men on the planet. They are an abomination. A boil on the face of the nation, wreaking havoc with the economy and destroying lives.

Perhaps they will elect a proper government next time around.

 

They get zero sympathy from me.

You get what you vote for and you absolutely deserve whatever that brings.

[richard_smith237]

2 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Why are Thais, the great majority who have only 1 or even no vaccinations not given the same treatment as the FULLY vaccinated foreign tourists.

 

They are far more likely to have Covid and pass it on.

 

I read the other paper in the mornings and there are still over 2,xxx cases daily but NONE of them seem to be foreign tourists. They are mostly Thai plus foreign workers if they can be found and blamed.

Agreed....  but that common sense does not play into the rhetoric of Thais good foreigners bad....  ok perhaps some over reaction, nevertheless there has been a consistent element of ‘we must protect Thai’s from this foreign borne diseases’ throughout Thailands response to this pandemic - it was a fair, just and accurate response at the start (if the testing numbers were to be believed). 

 

But now, this is clearly not the case - the greatest risk of transmission in Thailand is from within Thailand, the goal posts have moved. Common sense would suggest remove any quarantine and simply limit entry to vaccinated arrivals (perhaps with a preflight PCR test). 

 

Of course, doing so would be a ‘step too far’ in the ‘baby steps’ approach Thailand has taken to ease restrictions. 

The status-quo-mindset seems to be most at ease with not making big sudden changes and risk huge backlash, rather those in positions of decision making power make small changes to check the water temperature, then make changes again... and so on... 

[reflectionx]

I don’t mind sandbox quarantine, but I need to be able to isolate wherever we want (eg at wife’s house in the jungle) should our kids or we test positive.

 

There is no rational person on Earth who would risk being stuck with their kids for 2 weeks in a hotel or hospital room! 

[joecoolfrog]

21 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Agreed....  but that common sense does not play into the rhetoric of Thais good foreigners bad....  ok perhaps some over reaction, nevertheless there has been a consistent element of ‘we must protect Thai’s from this foreign borne diseases’ throughout Thailands response to this pandemic - it was a fair, just and accurate response at the start (if the testing numbers were to be believed). 

 

But now, this is clearly not the case - the greatest risk of transmission in Thailand is from within Thailand, the goal posts have moved. Common sense would suggest remove any quarantine and simply limit entry to vaccinated arrivals (perhaps with a preflight PCR test). 

 

Of course, doing so would be a ‘step too far’ in the ‘baby steps’ approach Thailand has taken to ease restrictions. 

The status-quo-mindset seems to be most at ease with not making big sudden changes and risk huge backlash, rather those in positions of decision making power make small changes to check the water temperature, then make changes again... and so on... 

Lets be blunt , we are dealing with an unsackable , so called health minister , who is far more invested in political chicanery than in the well being of his countrymen.

What could possibly go wrong ?

[Gold Star]

4 hours ago, JimmyJ said:

No sunscreen due to possible harm to coral reefs?

 

Cannot be worn anywhere? Or cannot be worn at the beach?

 

Is that the rule for the entire country or only certain areas?

Yes, newest stupid law. 100,000 baht fine. Many of the banned ingredients you can't identify in Thai script on a thai bottle of sunscreen anyway.

Cheaper for your family to get skin cancer and treated in your home country later.

[stigar]

8 hours ago, steevjee said:

cough cough !!! good luck

Change their mind..open tomorrow 4 pm

[SunsetT]

On 9/23/2021 at 10:17 AM, Upnotover said:

 

"Halving" obviously means something else in these parts.

10 and 14 days refers to those unvaccinated. The halving refers to those vaccinated and although not explicitly stated should mean 7 days.

[moe666]

On 9/23/2021 at 5:12 PM, RotBenz8888 said:

Will make absolutely zero difference for the tourism. Even one single day of quaranten is a deterrent. And even if they would remove the quaranten completely, am certain they'll keep the multiple PCR tests and the 100.000usd insurance, which many other attractive destinations do not demand. 

No, Its quite obvious that the Thai tourism is and will be dead as a dodo for a foreseeable future. 

That is what you guys said about the sandbox, there was a good size crowd who came to be stuck on a island for what 14 days. You guys never get it right.

[node]

Thailand interpretation of "No Quarantine for Vaccinated foreigners"; has a different meaning from many countries. One might be fooled in thinking it means the same.

You would still require a CoE to enter,  $100,000 USD insurance policy, PCR test upon arrival,maybe some sort of tracking app on your phone. God help you & your insurance if someone test positive on arrival. You will be locked away for awhile. Not sure if your insurance will pay and you are not COVID-19 positive. Scary to even consider coming to Thailand really. But the Thais would not state all of this on their colourful brochures.

They will not say there is a state of emergency, you will be locked up if found drinking a beer with a few friends at home, curfew from 9pm to 5am. You can see the inside of a Thai prison if you turn onto the wrong corner and encountered the protestors, you might be consider a part of. I doubt that would be on their colourful brochures.

[Niteowl45]

On 9/23/2021 at 4:02 AM, ukrules said:

You don't seem to be getting it, that is my point exactly. Nothing is going to stop it and it's already in Thailand so why are they trying to keep it out at such great cost?

 

It's already here

COVID is everywhere in Thailand - there's no need to pretend to keep it out - it's already in, attempting to keep it out when it's already in is just plain stupid.

Exactly, the quarantines and all the rest are just another tax on the visitors wealthy enough to afford it. They have zero impact on the disease (which is already everywhere)

The thai government is nothing but a mass of corrupt money-grabbers.

I will have to go back to Thailand to see my girlfriend at some point but if it wasn't for that I would never, ever set foot in this utter disgrace  of a country and if you don't have personal reasons for going there I advice anybody to just pick different destination.

 

[alyx]

3 hours ago, Gold Star said:

Yes, newest stupid law. 100,000 baht fine. Many of the banned ingredients you can't identify in Thai script on a thai bottle of sunscreen anyway.

Cheaper for your family to get skin cancer and treated in your home country later.

But , But....why shorten a stay to get treated back home ? Surely the "new" mandatory insurance should cover that, shouldn't it ? A win win situation