Retirement Extension Cancelled- What options

[fangless]

If your retirement extension is cancelled, lets say you dipped below the 800000/400000 requirement during the year what are your legit options apart from using an agent to FIX it at this time to get a new visa/extension?

[MRToMRT]

I have been pondering this as well. I sort of decided that going back to the mother country once a year to get a new visa was as easy as anything else. Hopefully that option will become easier in the coming months.

[ubonjoe]

If you do not meet the requirements for the year after you apply for a extension based upon retirement you application for a new one will not be accepted and you might get 7 days to leave the country after paying 1900 baht for a extension.

[DrJack54]

OP, given current situation with borders etc you would need an agent.

I realize you posted "apart from agent" however the only way would be to exit country and start over with a new non O 

[bankruatsteve]

Some years ago, I had a similar problem:  I had B800k in the bank but I had opened a new account that was not within the 3 month time frame.  No argument would crack the "rules".  I had to go to Vientiane for new visa.  Be sure to have money in the bank before you go for visa although with Covid, don't know where you go to do that.

[DrJack54]

27 minutes ago, bankruatsteve said:

  I had to go to Vientiane for new visa.

Thats correct however currently not possible. 

His best option is to use agent for this extension (approx 15k). For the next extension after that have the funds in the bank for the whole year prior according to requirements, then obtain following extension without need for agent.

[DrJack54]

@Lite Beer apart from the laugh emoji.....perhaps you could actually suggest something (type) to assist the OP.......

Didn't think so....

Edited October 18, 2021 by DrJack54

[Bruno123]

4 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

@Lite Beer apart from the laugh emoji.....perhaps you could actually suggest something (type) to assist the OP.......

Didn't think so....

Perhaps because of this:

 

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what are your legit options apart from using an agent to FIX it at this time to get a new visa/extension?

 

[Caldera]

9 hours ago, fangless said:

what are your legit options

By not maintaining the requisite balance, you've disqualified yourself, so the only strictly legit option is to start over by leaving and reentering the country.

 

As that's difficult and/or expensive thanks to Covid, using an agent really is your best option at this point.

Edited October 18, 2021 by Caldera

[KhunLA]

Since stating 'extension' assuming you are using direct deposit, 65k or 40k a month. If shy of that amount, then you need to deposit the full 800k or 400k 2 months prior to extending, to qualify for the extension.  If extending very soon, the IO may give you a 2 month extension, while the money 'sits in bank', and then do your year extension after that time.  Of course that will be 1900 + 1900 ... ????

 

 

[ubonjoe]

14 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Since stating 'extension' assuming you are using direct deposit, 65k or 40k a month. If shy of that amount, then you need to deposit the full 800k or 400k 2 months prior to extending, to qualify for the extension.  If extending very soon, the IO may give you a 2 month extension, while the money 'sits in bank', and then do your year extension after that time.  Of course that will be 1900 + 1900 ... ????

He did not mention the income option for a extension of stay based upon retirement.

He was writing about not keeping the 800k baht in the bank for 3 months after the day he applied for his extension and then 400k baht until he tops up his account to 800k baht 2 months before his next extension.

[KhunLA]

oops ... ????

[treetops]

1 hour ago, Caldera said:

. . . . so the only strictly legit option is to start over by leaving and reentering the country.

A Senior Officer can override the requirement so using an agent to gain access to this officer is just as legit, despite the mention of it raising the irrational anger of many here.  I suspect you knew that though and were just stirring the pot.

[Chad3000]

Option

 

Cambodia

 

Philippines

 

Detroit

Edited October 18, 2021 by Chad3000

[Chad3000]

11 hours ago, MRToMRT said:

I have been pondering this as well. I sort of decided that going back to the mother country once a year to get a new visa was as easy as anything else. Hopefully that option will become easier in the coming months.

OA looks like a nightmare to me. Non stop questions about it on Thai Visa.

 

Of married, maybe Savanakhet when borders open

[treetops]

4 minutes ago, Chad3000 said:

Just one of half dozen reasons not to use this stupid method. Still, so many do.

 

Just the stress and energy to manage this I'd never stay if this was my only option.

Please explain.  5 minutes and a few quid to an agent is minimal stress or energy and you're sorted for a year.  What would you recommend that would incur less stress or energy?

[PoorSucker]

25 minutes ago, treetops said:

5 minutes and a few quid to an agent is minimal stress or energy and you're sorted for a year. 

Only works at some immigration office.

This is why my friend moved to Pattaya.

[DrJack54]

7 minutes ago, PoorSucker said:

Only works at some immigration office.

This is why my friend moved to Pattaya.

You don't need to move to Pattaya in order to use an agent.

 

[Jack1988]

Just stop spending money for dating Thai womens and use an agent

[Lite Beer]

28 minutes ago, Jack1988 said:

Just stop spending money for dating Thai womens and use an agent

Just stop wasting money on agents and do it yourself.

[EricTh]

12 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

If you do not meet the requirements for the year after you apply for a extension based upon retirement you application for a new one will not be accepted and you might get 7 days to leave the country after paying 1900 baht for a extension.

 

Can't we just apply for the new Non-O visa without leaving the country?

 

 

[Caldera]

38 minutes ago, EricTh said:

Can't we just apply for the new Non-O visa without leaving the country?

No.

[DrJack54]

1 hour ago, Lite Beer said:

Just stop wasting money on agents and do it yourself.

The OP dropped below required balance. Wouldn't be the first.

Now with borders closed and exit and reenter Thailand very difficult,

"....do it yourself" is zero assistance to the OP

Edited October 18, 2021 by DrJack54

[BritTim]

Not mentioned yet, but possibly helpful. You could currently apply for a 60-day Covid extension. That will not directly cure the issue with the retirement extension, but it is quite likely that travel outside Thailand for Non O visas (or even just to return visa exempt) will become more practicable in the next couple of months.

[Jack1988]

2 hours ago, Lite Beer said:

Just stop wasting money on agents and do it yourself.

But he's under the 800k for doing himself lol

[malthebluff]

Count up the costs involved in leaving the country and starting a new application for a visa and the cost of using an agent I think it would be cheaper paying the 14000 baht to a agent no bank statements and learning a lessen this time round

[The Hammer2021]

To preclude an agent is silly. In extenuating circumstances a Senior IO can override various formalities and requirements. So using an agent is a good idea.

[fangless]

8 hours ago, BritTim said:

Not mentioned yet, but possibly helpful. You could currently apply for a 60-day Covid extension.

Thanks for the suggestion, can anyone else (hint ubonjoe) confirm this as a viable option?

[DrJack54]

1 minute ago, fangless said:

Thanks for the suggestion, can anyone else (hint ubonjoe) confirm this as a viable option?

Depends when your current permission of stay ends.

Your OP refers to "retirement extension cancelled".

Not clear what you actually mean.

Yes you haven't maintained funds in the bank.....

When why was your current permission of stay cancelled?

 

[fangless]

5 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Your OP refers to "retirement extension cancelled".

Sorry. bad wording on my part.  It should say extension renewal not approved/may not be approved as money in the bank dipped below the minimum requirement!

 

Please note this is a hypothetical question as I said in my OP; "lets say you dipped below the 800000/400000 requirement during the year what are your legit options".  I am looking at contingency planning options, nothing else!