Tourist faces huge bill, separation from family after testing positive on arrival in Thailand

[ianguygil]

22 minutes ago, MarkyM3 said:

You are wrong about entry requirements to the US. It only reopened to non-US citizens at the beginning of the week and the requirements for entry are clearly laid out - ESTA, C19 test within 72 hours of travel and agreement to do one 3-5 days after arrival for contact tracing. I am travelling there next month from the UK btw....

 

Your comments about entry to the UK are not correct either. There is no longer a red list and associated quarantine hotels. You have to complete a passenger locator form prior to entering the UK and register a lateral flow test on it, which is submitted on day 2. If you fail that, you are asked to self isolate for 10 days. No enforced stay in a quarantine hotel. 

 

As for your comments about death rates, if you seriously believe the Thai figures are comparable with those taken in the UK and USA, you must be joking right?

 

Keep wearing the tin foil hat and let people get on with their lives. Vaccines were developed to prevent serious illness and death and have done a terrific job in that respect. I'm sure you'd have us walking around in masks ad infinitum in a perpetual state of fear. 

I did it in May and I am not wrong

 

I arrived on May 23. I left on June 15 after my 2nd shot. 

 

My son and I have US passports. My wife has Japanese. Neither nationality had to do these things

[wprime]

1 hour ago, mikeymike100 said:

You being far too polite! An Imbecilic Moron would be closer!

Right, so you're from the crowd that acts recklessly and expects others to foot the bill. Grow up and learn some responsibility. This ain't the UK where the government protects you from your own stupidity, if you can't take responsibility for yourself then stay at home.

[Chad3000]

1 hour ago, gearbox said:

someone got charged 60K baht for hospitel stay,

I recall he was in a short time - a few days. Anyone??

[DaveCW]

57 minutes ago, DefaultName said:

I don't normally come down on the side of the system, but Kirov has replied on Barrow "Today I felt the first symptoms -  mild headache and strange feeling in the chest, so I can confirm stat this is not a total scam. 
But now I am super afraid about the upcoming test for my family"

 

So he does have the virus.

Has he now tested POSITIVE? - I guess if he is now "saying" he has symptoms and is being treated form them - He can now claim from his insurance with some confidence... Its one way of making the system work.

[ianguygil]

25 minutes ago, MarkyM3 said:

You are wrong about entry requirements to the US. It only reopened to non-US citizens at the beginning of the week and the requirements for entry are clearly laid out - ESTA, C19 test within 72 hours of travel and agreement to do one 3-5 days after arrival for contact tracing. I am travelling there next month from the UK btw....

 

Your comments about entry to the UK are not correct either. There is no longer a red list and associated quarantine hotels. You have to complete a passenger locator form prior to entering the UK and register a lateral flow test on it, which is submitted on day 2. If you fail that, you are asked to self isolate for 10 days. No enforced stay in a quarantine hotel. 

 

As for your comments about death rates, if you seriously believe the Thai figures are comparable with those taken in the UK and USA, you must be joking right?

 

Keep wearing the tin foil hat and let people get on with their lives. Vaccines were developed to prevent serious illness and death and have done a terrific job in that respect. I'm sure you'd have us walking around in masks ad infinitum in a perpetual state of fear. 

Nor am I wrong about the UK. I arrived on August 29. I left on October 1. I did not talk about the rules today. I talk about when I travelled. 

 

As for your fantasies about the Thai authorities being dishonest and the Western ones being so clean and correct, it is the type of racism that always makes me wonder why foreigners are members of a Thai forum if they dislike Thailand so much. The numbers or people dying are comparable. If you look at the Excess Deaths in the UK, in the USA and Thailand, it seems that the UK and USA are way under counting. Russia is the worst, but the UK is no role model at all. 

[ifmu]

3 hours ago, redsongthaew said:

 

AXA have an excellent policy:

 

https://axaxl.com/insurance/products/security-risks

So are you saying that axa would cover these 2 people and family if the bought the insurance

[mikeymike100]

20 minutes ago, wprime said:

Right, so you're from the crowd that acts recklessly and expects others to foot the bill. Grow up and learn some responsibility. This ain't the UK where the government protects you from your own stupidity, if you can't take responsibility for yourself then stay at home.

 

What evidence do you have that he acted recklessly? Your comment to me is absurd! The man is question did everything right! The problem is as most have posted is that the rules are very gray if you test positive on arrival and are asymptomatic  You need to get that huge chip off your shoulder!!

[NeoDinosaw]

3 hours ago, tezzaaa said:

Re: Axa policy.. Looking at the policy this is more for kidnappings and I'm not sure it would cover this.. according to Thai law this wouldn't be a wrongful detention ..

I think many tourist who fall into this trap feel that they are being held for ransom

[Road Warrior]

well done Thailand this is a positive move TO DETER  tourists  .  

[bang saen guy]

Could be a good little earner for the General if he could keep it out of the international news. Seems to be a bit late for that

[TheFishman1]

 Why does the guy have to stay in the hospital for 10 days can’t they test him the following day in the hospital maybe the test that was positive was a false reading it but I had no symptoms and was tested before he got on the plane it was negative then he gets off the plane takes the test and tighten it says he’s positive maybe that test is incorrect I think the hospital should give them another test maybe the guys even have it TIT

[NeoDinosaw]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I don't get why any actual tourist would be so eager to visit Thailand so soon. Surely the temples are not that enthralling?

Does not apply to expats returning to family. Obviously wanting to go back asap.

 

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I don't get why any actual tourist would be so eager to visit Thailand so soon. Surely the temples are not that enthralling?

Does not apply to expats returning to family. Obviously wanting to go back asap.

Thailand has many other attractions other than temples. The wildlife springs to mind ....

[tomyami]

or family on the run

[PB172111]

More fool them for not doing their homework before booking.

It’s obvious to anyone with half a brain that if you go overseas and test positive, whichever country you visit, you sill be under some sort of quarantine.

if you want to take the risk and travel, then do so, but don’t complain after if you test positive.

No sympathy from me I’m afraid.

[RafPinto]

What's about the taxi driver and all passengers who took the same taxi later?

All in hospital, all in quarantine or just the farangs as they are all rich and can pay?

[RafPinto]

Better before flying, buy a few test kits. When they test you positive in Thailand, do your own test and if it shows negative, challenge them.

[Yorkshire Tea]

1 hour ago, asiam110 said:

Headache and chest pains listed as possible side-effects of the mandated/quassi-forced antiviral medicine?

Side effects of the stress, too!

[ukrules]

8 minutes ago, PB172111 said:

More fool them for not doing their homework before booking.

It’s obvious to anyone with half a brain that if you go overseas and test positive, whichever country you visit, you sill be under some sort of quarantine.

if you want to take the risk and travel, then do so, but don’t complain after if you test positive.

No sympathy from me I’m afraid.

It is a serious error for anyone to come to Thailand for the purposes of tourism at the moment, an error which could have some reasonably expensvie consequences and you have zero control over the process.

Still if you want to take the risk make sure you have plenty of money to cover the dracoinian imprisonment requirement for those who test positive.

 

 

[olfu]

Too bad for me--decided to stay in my favored Florida.

[JustAnotherHun]

4 minutes ago, RafPinto said:

Better before flying, buy a few test kits. When they test you positive in Thailand, do your own test and if it shows negative, challenge them.

Do you really think your self test would impress them? 

[Colabamumbai]

Squeeze you for every dollar. 

[MarkyM3]

1 hour ago, ianguygil said:

I did it in May and I am not wrong

 

I arrived on May 23. I left on June 15 after my 2nd shot. 

 

My son and I have US passports. My wife has Japanese. Neither nationality had to do these things

The US reopened on 8th November to non-US citizens unless they were travelling on a special visa. Sorry, it was headline news here in the UK. I have been trying to get back to visit family for the last 18 months! Trump signed the executive order in March 2020 iirc. So I am not sure on what visa your wife enters if she has no US credentials. Does she have a green card or permanent residency?

[relax33]

3 hours ago, kwak250 said:

Thailand the land of smiles.

 

Think i would smile more if i charged that much.

Sorry, it should be "Thailand, the land of mines"

[thaiman]

How many more cases like this are there?  That's the big question.  Is this information being buried?

[Neeranam]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

Kirovs estimates he may have to pay 350,000 Baht towards hospital and quarantine fees if his insurance provider won’t cover it.

 

“I knew that I was taking a gamble when I chose to buy plane tickets as soon as the Thailand reopening was announced,” Kirovs told Richard.

 

“We lost that bet.”

Totally irresponsible, and why mandatory insurance for these people is a must.

[MarkyM3]

57 minutes ago, ianguygil said:

Nor am I wrong about the UK. I arrived on August 29. I left on October 1. I did not talk about the rules today. I talk about when I travelled. 

 

As for your fantasies about the Thai authorities being dishonest and the Western ones being so clean and correct, it is the type of racism that always makes me wonder why foreigners are members of a Thai forum if they dislike Thailand so much. The numbers or people dying are comparable. If you look at the Excess Deaths in the UK, in the USA and Thailand, it seems that the UK and USA are way under counting. Russia is the worst, but the UK is no role model at all. 

Para 1....the US was open for travel to the UK from the summer and there was no quarantine then either because it wasn't a red or amber list country. So you aren't even correct about the situation at that point. Yes, there was a PCR required pre-flight at that point and day 2 and day 8 tests but no quarantine. As of October, lateral test day 2 after arrival. Prove me wrong.

 

Para 2...always sad to see people resort to pathetic racism claims. Typical keyboard warrior who wouldn't have the balls to say it face to face. 

 

Thailand is testing 50k people a day, a fraction of elsewhere. And you have to pay for the tests. UK is testing way more, free, their method of counting deaths is not the same - a Covid death is counted if they died *for any reason* within 28 days of a positive C19 test. Look up "excess deaths" and report back.

 

I have been a regular visitor for 20 years, and have a Thai fiancee and she is equally sceptical about the way the government is running things, as her most of her friends. Are they all racists/xenophobes as well? 

[asiam110]

Looks like there another 3-24 cases today, depending on the density of the inbound flights, 3 best case scenario no one in the 3x3 matrix of your seat, to 24 if plane full and you're in a seat surrounded by others (i.e. not window)..

 

 

[RafPinto]

Not good news for TAT

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2021/nov/10/coronavirus-news-live-france-orders-those-aged-over-65-to-show-proof-of-covid-booster-shot-china-reports-drop-in-cases

Covid live: Germany reports new record daily cases; WHO envoy advises minimising international travel

[asiam110]

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

Totally irresponsible, and why mandatory insurance for these people is a must.

The family has insurance, sufficient insurance to qualify for the thailand pass, it's just weather any sane international insurance underwriter is going to cover illogical government behavior, that said with toddler it's still irresponsible be a nightmare for kids locked up that long in a hotel room

[thaiman]

Just now, asiam110 said:

Looks like there another 3-24 cases today, depending on the density of the inbound flights, 3 best case scenario no one in the 3x3 matrix of your seat, to 24 if plane full and you're in a seat surrounded by others (i.e. not window)..

 

 

Please provide the source