“Culture is more important than personal freedom” on porn debate, says culture minister

[hotchilli]

14 hours ago, nowhereman said:

Stick your culture where the sun doesn't shine.

Can't do that either, LB's have just been shunned by the government as not being Thai culture.

[klauskunkel]

It's not about preserving culture, but preserving another control mechanism over the populace. The more restrictive laws you have in place, the more control you can exert over the people.

[clivebaxter]

12 hours ago, Emdog said:

He is right from his point of view and his culture. Not yours, not western culture like US where individual freedom trumps any sort of other culture value.

I dare say nearly everyone believes their culture (the one they were raised in) is right and best.

Of course I get frustrated with Thai culture from time to time & remind self "It's not better, or worse. It's different".

I strongly suggest reading Edward T Hall's book "Beyond Culture"Beyond Culture PDF

 

 

This feudal culture with it's social hierarchy, corruption and hypocrisy IS worse, not all cultures are equal.

[maxcorrigan]

17 hours ago, fusion58 said:

Lolz!

 

Thailand: The only country in the world where paying for a BJ is just as easy as buying a pack of chewing gum at the corner 7-11, but you're not allowed to visit pornhub.com. ????

Could always be like Japan where porn is allowed but only with the body parts that make it porn in the first place fuzzed out, (so i've been told)

[Skeptic7]

Well said. Truly spoken like the ignorant, backassward, authoritarian, third world, pea-brained country this is. 

Edited November 19, 2021 by Skeptic7

[ChrisKC]

A Culture Vulture coming to clear up all the remaining scraps of personal freedoms.

[Joseph98765]

3 letters.... "VPN"

[Headgame]

Another great chuckle to start the day.

Today there is no contradiction between porn and Thai culture.

Watching porn is a choice. My gf and I use it to get the engines started quickly and away we go.

But hey, that's just our "culture".

[Millcx]

19 hours ago, Gsxrnz said:

I don't give a toss about the porn.  

 

But culture is NEVER more important than freedom.

 

 

100% … In the darkness these muppets opposed do it all covertly .. Hypocrites

[Xonax]

If only porn and prostitution were freely allowed and taxed in Thailand, they would not have to worry so much about the missing foreign tourists.

[CrunchWrapSupreme]

1 hour ago, Mike KIWI said:

Then they need to legalize prostitution, as it is a very large part of current Thai culture.

Whenever I'm eating or having a coffee out in the market, I overhear my wife with the ladies and the local gossip. In this there's often "mia noi, mia noi...", talk of someone's mistress. Everyone knows who the attractive ladies are in the area, how they don't need to work, and don't get married as the alternative is far more lucrative. Someone with the dosh is taking care of them, business owners, govt officials, police officers. It makes the bar scene everyone points at pale in comparison.

[alien365]

13 hours ago, Emdog said:

He is right from his point of view and his culture. Not yours, not western culture like US where individual freedom trumps any sort of other culture value.

I dare say nearly everyone believes their culture (the one they were raised in) is right and best.

Of course I get frustrated with Thai culture from time to time & remind self "It's not better, or worse. It's different".

I strongly suggest reading Edward T Hall's book "Beyond Culture"Beyond Culture PDF

 

 

The current Thai culture rhetoric is simply that: what the government want to sell and indoctrinate as their culture is not the same as what it actually is. 

[smutcakes]

This coming from the sodding Khonpluem mafia family whose father was Kamnan Poa who murdered another and fled into exile...... Presumably thats all Thai Culture... Its simply laughable that these criminals are even walking around...

[Bangkok Barry]

20 hours ago, webfact said:

Preserving our culture is more important than personal freedoms, the Thai Ministry of Culture said

Sums up dinosaur Thailand perfectly.

[Jerno]

Good culture?   He means suppressed and dictated culture by old farts and closed minded prudes.  What a bunch of sick up azz ...

[elgenon]

20 hours ago, Kinnock said:

Is this the Thai culture that is demonstrated by the highest levels of Thai society?  If so, I don't see a problem.

Rich folk, powerful folk can have mia nois as part of Thai culture? Is that prostitution or porn?

[Roel]

The man has a point. If porn is legalized it could well be that when I tell people I live in Thailand they start asking about ladyboys instead of temples. I would hate to see that happen.

[RJRS1301]

20 hours ago, Gsxrnz said:

I don't give a toss about the porn.  

 

But culture is NEVER more important than freedom.

 

 

"Toss" that an intended pun?

 

[herfiehandbag]

He went on to say (unreported) "and I decide what culture is, you don't think that I paid for this job (as our culture demands) and am not going to make sure I reap the benefits?

 

Besides, my brother has a whole factory making polyester traditional feudal clothing!"

[RJRS1301]

1 hour ago, hotchilli said:

Your culture is evident in every seaside resort, or city locations:

Walking street, Bangla road, Soi Cowboy, Nana, Patpong to name but a few.

Everything you can see on "Only fans" is available for rent every night.
Whats the difference between buying it on the street or watching it in the privacy of your own home?

Perhaps the "culture" is to exchange funds for it, with person directly and in person?

[Blumpie]

Porn is just there.  It's not culture, in a way it's stupid.  It's a watch, over, keep going.

 

I don't see people walking down the street with porn blaring on their phones speakers going "OOOOH  YEAH BABY OHHHH YEAH, OH GIVE IT TO ME OOOOH YEAAAAHH".  

[dutchweller]

Thailand has a Long History of Selling sex..
So ...

[Misterwhisper]

20 hours ago, webfact said:

“There might be examples from abroad that this can be done freely but the Ministry of Culture insists that people should preserve the good culture more than freedom,” said Itthiphol Khunpleum, the Minister of Culture, said on Wednesday.

What "good culture" is he rambling on about?

The plethora of massage parlors, "hostess" bars, "curtain motels", makeshift brothels that are a common feature of practically every town, village and hamlet? 

[Mr Derek]

20 hours ago, Gsxrnz said:

I don't give a toss about the porn.  

 

But culture is NEVER more important than freedom.

 

 

Wrong. All societies need a degree of discipline in order to function properly. Self-indulgence is decadence and only leads to the degeneration of values and behaviour. Self-indulgence in the name of 'freedom' is misguided and dangerous.

Edited November 19, 2021 by Mr Derek

[Kinnock]

27 minutes ago, elgenon said:

Rich folk, powerful folk can have mia nois as part of Thai culture? Is that prostitution or porn?

Hopefully both, or they should ask for a refund

[Keesters]

Is scamming a tourist seen as part of Thai culture? It certainly happens frequently enough. 

 

Is jumping a red light part of Thai culture or is it that red lights aren't so it's OK to ignore them. 

 

Just what defines Thai culture except for a sense of me, me, me above all others?

 

Edited November 19, 2021 by Keesters

[ChrisKC]

I would like to ask the Culture Minister, given that culture covers a wide range, 

 

Can he give me just four aspects of Thai culture that are worth preserving that ore more important than what we do in the privacy of our own homes, that in any case is none of your business..

[raccos21]

Culture plays a very important role in those days before technology because word and information can only spread between people, but in today’s modern world, anyone can access the resources by themselves.
They can decide and choose their freedom.

[Hanuman2547]

I love Thai culture!

I've been to many Thai cultural sites in a few different Thai cities.

Some of my favorites are Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy, and Patpong in Bangkok.

Walking Street, Soi Bhukaew, Soi 6, LK Metro, and other places in Pataya.

Bangla Road in Phuket.

All fine places that exhibit Thai culture and are known world wide.

[Mr Derek]

There's only one way to deal with this - the same way prostitution has been dealt with for thousands of years: frown on it officially, but don't stamp it out. That preserves morals and caters to human nature.

Of course they are not going to say 'porn is ok' - that's the road to degeneracy.

I applaud any culture defending their culture (and not invading anyone else's).