kickstart Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 8 hours ago, Chelseafan said: Road deaths only fifth to Liberia, DR Congo, Central Afrian Repuclic and Tanzania. That is an improvement, use to be second after Libya. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunPer Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 4 hours ago, hotchilli said: If you eat in 5-star hotels and you go to Bumrungrad for treatment maybe. However if you eat the normal Thai street food and frequent a government hospital maybe not. That why the government wants both "quality tourists" and happy "quality retirees", just look at what's happening with the O-A visa... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harveyboy Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 14 hours ago, Pravda said: The food is very dirty here unlike in Europe. Before covid I used to get food poisoning every 3 months eating out. Besides that I don't have any other complaints. don't eat out problem solved .ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 An op-ed, nothing but click bait for their adverts. US news ... healthcare highlighted where in the USA, the insurance premium per month is more than I pay to stay health with a full check up every year or so. The co-payment for meds in the USA is more then the meds cost here in Thailand. Other aspect, healthy food, lifestyle, that's everywhere, except you actually have to eat it, and or get off the couch and go out & enjoy your life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerfeet Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 14 hours ago, John Bird said: Yeah right. Who paid for this propaganda? TAT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi49jr Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Maybe some parts of Thailand. Did they forget to take into account the massive air pollution? PM10 levels in large parts of the north are over 100 already, and the burning season hasn’t even started yet. Bangkok is even worse. So if you want to retire to Thailand, be careful where you retire to, otherwise it will certainly not be healthy and you will be in for a nasty shock. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caldera Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Must be the clean and fresh air. Burning season upcoming... ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont confuse me Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Forget the pollution, the carnage on the roads. The health system is for rich and or well insured foreigners, try a Thai government hospital ( some of which are adequate) if you don't speak the language! Attempt to pay the same admission price to National Parks, zoos, etc as Thai nationals! Retire in pattaya the bungee jumping hub of SE Asia. Or if canoeing is your idea of fun spend a few relaxing days in Bangkok during the rainy season paddle along with the rats, turds and used condoms! This country really does live in a dream world! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyril sneer Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 the healthcare is good at the private hospitals, but... even on a good insurance package you still get the feeling you'll get screwed over at some point (fake diagnosis, deliberate attempts to make you choose something not covered etc.) and end up having to pay a huge sum out of your pocket this puts off people going to get checked and then the problems start to worsen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flemo Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 You really have to wonder where they get the statistics from. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevemercer Posted November 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2021 I would think most retirees to Thailand will have a lower life expectancy than their home country. Part of this is just living in a tropical country (heat, humidity, insect bites, disease risks etc. etc. that lower life expectancy), part is living in a developing country (hygiene, risk of accident etc.) and part may be unique to Thailand. On the plus side, general mood and happiness may add a year or so. Still, quantity of life is one thing, quality of life on a retirement income is another thing entirely. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Most retirees, their life expectancy is more based on their lifestyle of 65ish years in the home country before they retired. For others, like myself, actually being in Thailand 1/3 of my life, almost half of my adult life, then Thailand is going to effect my life expectancy, maybe. And in a good way, so far, as I do seem to eat, drink and exercise more healthy here, though that is more down to age, maturity, and more time for home / healthier cooking, less (20 yrs) processed foods. If all in USA, when born in 1954, life exp. was 66.5 for white male If make to 65, then good chance to live 12.8 more yrs, so with luck 78. No chart if making it to 75 ... seems all bets are off. If reading this CDC chart correctly: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus/2010/022.pdf hmm ... 66.5, guess they didn't expect me to collect much of my pension or SS. Which actually agrees with my work / IAM union #s, as they issue on average 18 monthly checks past 65 yr old, and only 11 checks in my job classification. Scary stuff. Glad I took everything early. As I should be dead already, or, if lucky, squeeze out another decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Aylesham Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Including Chiang Mai in the smoke season (the most polluted city on the globe) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berrec Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Dreamer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 7700 Posted November 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2021 I’m absolutely loving it here in Portugal. Prayer and King wanna be can take their country and shove it. Kick a dog long enough and he will find a new home. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Felix Unger Posted November 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2021 I think I am going to have a coronary from laughing so hard after reading this headline. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gejohesch Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 14 hours ago, spidermike007 said: Total lies and fake news. Before Covid, the attitude of most people was pleasing. Fun and playful. Not anymore. Sabotage and economic destruction has its price. Not to mention the heinous air quality, 7 months of the year. And nobody is doing anything to improve that. It seems to worsen each year. Also, a frequent and horrific immigration experience, does not help. It is as of the authorities are trying to create an environment somewhere between Beijing (air quality) and Sierra Leone (economy and standard of living). The only aspect of Thailand which remains, that is conducive to a healthy lifestyle, is the relatively low cost of living. And the women, if you are single and avoid a relationship. Less stress from that if you are on a budget. And not to mention the brutal climate in so many parts of Thailand. Nothing so pleasant compared to Mediterranean climates, for example. I don't see how staying long periods indoors with AC's running would increase my life expectancy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Forever Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 21 hours ago, trainman34014 said: You forgot Wet Dreams ! I had a wet dream last night. I was going to have another one but I fell asleep. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkk6060 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 My PSA has never been lower and my Prostate never healthier since I have been here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussieroaming Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 More chaff for the people to chew on. Misinformation and fake news, just to muddy the waters and divert peoples attention to Thailands economic woes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Zweistein Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Felix Unger said: I think I am going to have a coronary from laughing so hard after reading this headline. Check your health insurance first. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaan sailor Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 We are on the cusp of another choking/burning season. Although not all of the pollution comes from agricultural burning. Sandwiched between the worlds two biggest polluters (China and India)—Thailand has problems with polluted air. And I have experienced high PM2.5 readings along the coast as well. They burn the forests in Cambodia as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheapcanuck Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 On 11/22/2021 at 8:02 AM, Pravda said: The food is very dirty here unlike in Europe. Before covid I used to get food poisoning every 3 months eating out. Besides that I don't have any other complaints. Are you eating out of the garbage can outside a 711? Been coming to Thailand 11 years and no food poisonings (touch wood.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanuman2547 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 11 hours ago, Dont confuse me said: Retire in pattaya the bungee jumping hub of SE Asia. Yes, and without the bungee! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted November 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2021 16 hours ago, shackleton said: I don't think what they say about Thailand being one of the healthiest places to retire is a big game changer people will make up their own minds for what ever reason When I read the Thai visa forum plenty of people asking about retiring in Thailand so looks like no problem there with people coming Incorrect. The expat population is falling precipitously. Tens of thousands have left already. Tens of thousands of expats are making plans to leave. It is not getting better on any level. Thailand is in a potentially irreversible tailspin. Sierra Leone status on the horizon? A friend of mine uses a foreign lawyer in Bangkok, who is one of the top attorneys around. He said his office cannot find enough hours in the day to meet with expats who are leaving, with their Thai spouse or family, and dealing with trusts and wills for their remaining Thai families, properties, etc. He said he has never seen anything like it, in the 30 years he has been in practice here. Woe is Thailand. Where is the hope for the future? The dinosaur creeps are moving this nation backwards at a breakneck pace. Truly regressive reptilian leadership. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymahoney Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, spidermike007 said: A friend of mine uses a foreign lawyer in Bangkok, who is one of the top attorneys around. He said his office cannot find enough hours in the day to meet with expats who are leaving, with their Thai spouse or family, and dealing with trusts and wills for their remaining Thai families, properties, etc. Great -- so it would be nice to get the nitty gritty from one of the clients of one of the top foreign lawyers in Bangkok who is used by a friend of yours as to why they are leaving. Just for the record to those maybe unaware, there is no such legal entity as a 'trust' for individuals in Thailand. Edited November 23, 2021 by jerrymahoney 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, jerrymahoney said: Great -- so it would be nice to get the nitty gritty from one of the clients of one of the top foreign lawyers in Bangkok who is used by a friend of yours as to why they are leaving. Just for the record to those maybe unaware, there is no such legal entity as a 'trust' for individuals in Thailand. Love your argumentative style. It was a manner of speaking. One has to be very literal around you. They are putting their legal affairs in order, prior to abandoning Thailand. Kudos to them. Want to pick that one apart too? And you want the top ten reasons they are leaving, or the next ten? Edited November 23, 2021 by spidermike007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymahoney Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: Love your argumentative style. It was a manner of speaking. One has to be very literal around you. They are putting their legal affairs in order, prior to abandoning Thailand. Kudos to them. Want to pick that one apart too? And you want the top ten reasons they are leaving, or the next ten? I don't want your third-hand friend-of-a-friend reasons at all. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkk6060 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Too many come here with already poor lifestyle habits. Fat, eating garbage, no exercise, low money, smoking, drinking booze everyday. Then, they blame it on Thailand as an unhealthy place to live. Hypocritical joke. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, bkk6060 said: Too many come here with already poor lifestyle habits. Fat, eating garbage, no exercise, low money, smoking, drinking booze everyday. Then, they blame it on Thailand as an unhealthy place to live. Hypocritical joke. And likely add a few bad habits.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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