Hummin Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 11 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said: Many are not really here! The ones that are failures not in Thailand but in everything and Thai bashing make them feel better. Being realistic doesnt make anyone a looser or a failure, but if you are aware of the potential deleted you will experience you will succeed. A denier of reality or a romanticer might convince themselves they are better off. Only time shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoeiI Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 22 hours ago, BritManToo said: Obviously, your woman is different. Never previously sold it, and is only with you for your youthful good looks and amazing personality. Doesn't work for guys like me that are ugly, old and boring. I'm OK with taking what I can get. I'm fat as well ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdemundo Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 2 hours ago, jvs said: Or are all of us reading this creepy? Yes, there is that. I am definitely a hypocrite as I am reading this and I have enthusiastically participated in pay fo play in Thailand, So I am busted for hypocrisy for sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdemundo Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 2 hours ago, Danderman123 said: Obviously, many posters here share my interest. Apparently, you do as well. You are right, I am admitting to hypocrisy on this one. But the other thing I have started to wonder, is it really your friend, or is it the old "asking for a friend" dodge? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvs Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 1 minute ago, cdemundo said: Yes, there is that. I am definitely a hypocrite as I am reading this and I have enthusiastically participated in pay fo play in Thailand, So I am busted for hypocrisy for sure. You're not alone,i would say that goes for most of us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoeiI Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 20 hours ago, bkk6060 said: What you are saying is true many of them would show up in the manner you described. Lots of kisses goodbye, but I guess that could still be a brother. Probably from Norfolk then 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opossum Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 3 hours ago, Danderman123 said: You are assuming that the husbands are unaware of what the wife does when she is with the Farang. As long as the wife comes home with baht, all is forgiven . I generally assume that other people are smarter than me until I have proven the contratry ???? Maybe your friend is glorifying his story. He slept with a prostitute and saw her pimp.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveThai94 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 I am a new to posting but have been following this site for years. Great site for learning about getting things done in Thailand. As for my comment about bashing Thailand, if the topic of the posting is about all Thai women then that is bashing or stereotyping. I must say i do not live in Thailand but i spend several months a year here, even during the pandemic . Just arrived via test and go a couple of weeks ago. I travel for work just to make things more clear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod711 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 16 hours ago, Hummin said: Never met a Thai woman who wanted her own room, or her own bed even we just travel as friends! We ended up in bed together, I just wanted her to know that it wasn't a condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adumbration Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 On 12/30/2021 at 11:49 AM, BangkokReady said: But at the same frequency and to the same level of casual acceptance by society? I can only speak for the UK, but the idea of a gik, a mia noi or young women having older men pay them for sex while at uni seem very rare. I have three degrees. I know of at least a dozen of my fellow graduates that worked as escorts to put themselves through uni. One of them was a bloke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, ramrod711 said: We ended up in bed together, I just wanted her to know that it wasn't a condition. I know, same experience as you. Even when travelling in China, and I needed a translator and a guide for my project there, they would not accept to sleep alone in their own room. Two projects and two different translators. And I avoided those annoying phone calls during the nights as well because of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoeiI Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 4 hours ago, Danderman123 said: You are assuming that the husbands are unaware of what the wife does when she is with the Farang. As long as the wife comes home with baht, all is forgiven . As the old saying goes "You'll not miss a slice from a cut loaf" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted December 31, 2021 Author Share Posted December 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Opossum said: I generally assume that other people are smarter than me until I have proven the contratry ???? Maybe your friend is glorifying his story. He slept with a prostitute and saw her pimp.... There really aren’t any pimps in Pattaya. There are money boys who leach off ladies, but they aren’t pimps. However, the lady in question works factory, and has a husband who kind of works. I have her Facebook. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 1 hour ago, LoveThai94 said: As for my comment about bashing Thailand, if the topic of the posting is about all Thai women then that is bashing or stereotyping. I think they were just talking about the Thai women available to us old white foreign guys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 3 hours ago, Hummin said: Being realistic doesnt make anyone a looser or a failure, but if you are aware of the potential deleted you will experience you will succeed. A denier of reality or a romanticer might convince themselves they are better off. Only time shows. Failure and mediocrity do not lead to realism. The tone, not just the content of many Thai bashers indicate very little life experience and even less travel experience. Their negativity has less to do with experience and more to do with personality disorders and character defects. We all carry our emotional baggage with us. Travel broadens the mind of the intelligent but narrows the mind of the stupid...And I reiterate many of the haters have little or no experience of Thailand.. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said: Failure and mediocrity do not lead to realism. The tone, not just the content of many Thai bashers indicate very little life experience and even less travel experience. Their negativity has less to do with experience and more to do with personality disorders and character defects. We all carry our emotional baggage with us. Travel broadens the mind of the intelligent but narrows the mind of the stupid...And I reiterate many of the haters have little or no experience of Thailand.. I will give you a point, but that's different when you are not able to see solutions in the deleted system. Being realistic is different, it helps you on the way to improve your situation, and do not leave yourselves behind in denial, that you are responsible for your own situation, and the outcome of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 13 hours ago, FritsSikkink said: Have any daughters? Yes and sons! Neither of them play a role in my sex life. I find your comment perverse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said: Yes and sons! Neither of them play a role in my sex life. I find your comment perverse. So you wouldn't mind if they did sex for money or do you have different standards then. Edited December 31, 2021 by FritsSikkink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Hammer2021 Posted December 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) 37 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said: So you wouldn't mind if they did sex for money or do you have different standards then. I might be concerned but I wouldn't be making the pejorative moral judgment you seem to trying to elicit. I would be more worried if they were front line troops in Afghanistan. I do not relish them as killing machines and would worry about the danger they are in. Our sons and daughters have sex lives but it is not our business to be even thinking about it. Oil workers, soldiers, bomber pilots, miners, chemical process workers, construction workers all potentially do damage and harm to themselves and to others but you don't care about their jobs. So the issue is sex. That is your objection. Prostitution is the wrong kind of barter and the wrong kind of women's independence. You exhibit the classic trends of controlling patriarchy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Are_All_Prostitutes_(song) Edited December 31, 2021 by The Hammer2021 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoon Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) On 12/30/2021 at 11:14 AM, FritsSikkink said: The people your friend is meeting might have another job but they are still prostitutes. Come down out of the pulpit Vicar. A bit of prostitution "on the side" is what they do. Ask anyone they know and they will tell you that ******* is a student, or works in 7-ll, or in a bank.......maybe all three. Nobody wants to know, or tell you, that ******* is a prostitute. That's the way it works. That's why "it" flourishes, because the law basically says "Carry on, but be discrete". ".............or the commission of any other act in order to gratify the sexual desire of another person in a promiscuous manner in return for money or any other benefit, irrespective of whether the person who accepts the act and the person who commits the act are of the same sex or not." A clear definition of the phrase "in a promiscuous manner" is not provided. Under the act, persons who solicit sex "...in an open and shameless manner..." (a phrase that is not clearly defined), or who are "...causing nuisance to the public..." are subject to a fine. Persons associating in a "prostitution establishment" with another person for the purpose of prostitution faces a jail term or a fine or both. The term "prostitution establishment" is not clearly defined............" That's the way it is..............Vicar. Edited December 31, 2021 by Enoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Hammer2021 Posted December 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, Enoon said: Come down out of the pulpit Vicar. A bit of prostitution "on the side" is what they do. Ask anyone they know and they will tell you that ******* is a student, or works in 7-ll, or in a bank.......maybe all three. Nobody wants to know, or tell you, that ******* is a prostitute. That's the way it works. That's why "it" flourishes, because the law basically says "Carry on, but be discrete". The big mouth moralistic should try calling these girls prostitutes to their faces and see what happens! The bar girls here who accept money seem more moral and more in control of their lives than drunk Saturday night slappers in the UK. They seem promiscuous, charmless and out of control 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Hammer2021 Posted December 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2021 The term 'prostitutes' is loaded with shallow patriarchal, moral judgement. It is disrespectful and rarely used by thoughtful people. The appropriate term is 'sex worker.' Men who used the term 'prostitute' usually have a sex problem not just sexual repression but the hypocrisy of selective judgement. They do not call soldiers 'trained killers' for example. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemsta69 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 On 12/30/2021 at 12:21 PM, Danderman123 said: No one said he did. Actually, he took 2 married ladies on that trip. livin' the dream! ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted December 31, 2021 Author Share Posted December 31, 2021 Discussions about the morality of prostitution are off topic here. I was more interested in the thought process of the husband's bringing their wives to service Farangs. Given that the Thai men are reported to be seeing other ladies while their wives are busy, that seems to answer the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opossum Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 2 hours ago, Danderman123 said: ...There really aren’t any pimps in Pattaya.... Of course pimps do not exist in Thailand nor does prostitutes... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveThai94 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 The idea of wife sharing is not new. Husbands handpicking; (trainers, chauffeur, garden and pool boys) to keep the home happy. There are many websites that promotes these lifestyles. Before you get off-kilter i know this is mostly for thrill but p4p is not unheard of in these circles. To the untrained eye not much is happening in your hometown wink wink. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 46 minutes ago, Opossum said: Of course pimps do not exist in Thailand nor does prostitutes... Every bar owner who take barfine, is a pimp! Happy new year and have a great celebration! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1FinickyOne Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 On 12/30/2021 at 11:07 AM, Danderman123 said: so, are Thai men really that mercenary? that could be measured by the % of the payment they receive... As to morality - not everyone has the same morality that you have been taught. Back in my hippie days it was not that unusual for a friend to let me sleep with his wife if I had been off traveling for a long time... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 8 minutes ago, 1FinickyOne said: that could be measured by the % of the payment they receive... As to morality - not everyone has the same morality that you have been taught. Back in my hippie days it was not that unusual for a friend to let me sleep with his wife if I had been off traveling for a long time... I hope it was her letting you sleep with her, with his approval? ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starky Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) On 12/30/2021 at 11:49 AM, BangkokReady said: But at the same frequency and to the same level of casual acceptance by society? I can only speak for the UK, but the idea of a gik, a mia noi or young women having older men pay them for sex while at uni seem very rare. Yeah right. https://www.theage.com.au/national/students-turn-to-sex-work-to-help-pay-for-university-20080302-ge6slm.html And of course that's just the tip of the iceberg. Thousands of women work on the fringes of the sex industry as strippers, dancers, escorts, massage parlours the list goes on and on. Edited December 31, 2021 by starky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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