6 hours ago, Kevin Taylor said:

When is it going to end ？This is endemic and we are all going to be exposed to it. Whether you are exposed in a bar or a supermarket it makes no difference. If the officials are worried about hospital beds stop forcing people who are not sick into hospital for quarantine. It makes zero sense.

It makes perfect sense......if you happen to own a private hospit_al/el or two!

The blame game is on and it will never stop. Authorities will never take any responsibility because if the do, they "loosing face". The responsibility of the current situation is00% the authorities , with the inability to have a strategy that entails to the current situation. We just have to learn to live with the virus for maybe several years and it looks like the latest strain of Covid 19, Omicron, will find us regardless of measurements are place, it will spread all over the globe and closing borders won't help. It will be better slowly, people will get a boosted immune system that can fight the new strain of the virus. That said all people around the globe need to be vaccinated, no place for anti-vaxers, and as long authorities/and or countries prioritize them selves prior to regular people the virus will continue to mutate. "Catch 22", Don't authorities and leaders do any cost benefit analysis anymore ?  1

Said before the true restaurants will get rolled into the 'bar/restaurants' in footing the blame. The town halls issued the licences when it was obvious that they were still going to operate as bars so blame lays with them. Meanwhile those proper restaurants that have been open months will suffer along with the bars. Question is would these bars have converted to restaurants if alcohol was still not allowed on eateries? Of course not so it was obvious to anyone, officials included, what would happen and how they would operate, regardless of licence status

3 hours ago, WEBBYB808 said:

Yeah!  Wasn't the restaurants.   It was the the bars. Pleasure  and money before saftey. 

and that is so bad? Think most would take the risk of dying happy other than cowering at home.  It has been two years now and think we know the risk.  If your fat, old, unhealthy then take precautions.  As for me, literally no risk of dying of Covid.

10 hours ago, jacko45k said:

So they have acknowledged that there has been a dramatic rise in cases in the Pattaya area.....

Now we play the blame game as everywhere shuts?

No proof whatsoever. Just words...

10 hours ago, sandyf said:

It cannot be disputed that the risk of transmission is proportional to the distance between the infected and the uninfected.

The blame lies with those that refuse to acknowledge that fact, unfortunately voluntary separation is no chin. t in the DNA of the majority.

Not much social distancing going on in my local Makro, Tesco, Big C, etc. Was in Bkk Bank today and several staff (talking amongst themselves) had their masks pulled down under the chin. You cant just blame the bars, people are lax everywhere

4 hours ago, ExpatDraco said:

Had (probably) Omikron. Tested positive after my symptoms were gone. While I had symptoms my test was negative. Had worse colds from dirty aircons than that. Better make hotel aircon cleaning mandatory every 3 months!

I have made many posts about this - ATK tests are unreliable, many people I know have cold symptoms, ATK negative - they are all doing the right thing and isolating assuming they have omicron, only way to be absolutely be sure is PCR test and nobody is doing that at least not farang

 

There is no way to stop omicron - impossible  

2 hours ago, atpeace said:

and that is so bad? Think most would take the risk of dying happy other than cowering at home.  It has been two years now and think we know the risk.  If your fat, old, unhealthy then take precautions.  As for me, literally no risk of dying of Covid.

provided you are fully vaxed 

13 hours ago, webfact said:

The mayor defended his entertainment programme of weekly music festivals, including the Pattaya Countdown, claiming none of the infections came from there.

Why make a statement nobody believes?

This is Songkran 2.0, it was destined to be a national superspreader and only the mentally challenged wouldn't see this coming. Now everyone is returning to their province and get ready for those results...

4 hours ago, atpeace said:

If your fat, old, unhealthy then take precautions.  As for me, literally no risk of dying of Covid.

Sure my bro-in-law felt the same, RIP.

Why are people still under some illusion that lockdowns will stop or even slow down the spread with omicron? Lots of examples of countries that have heavy restrictions getting hit just as hard as countries without.  I don't think it matters one bit with omicron.  As long as you are breathing you will be exposed, doesn't matter what precautions are taken.

5 hours ago, atpeace said:

and that is so bad? Think most would take the risk of dying happy other than cowering at home.  It has been two years now and think we know the risk.  If your fat, old, unhealthy then take precautions.  As for me, literally no risk of dying of Covid.

Yes, see thats the selfish  approach.  All about the individual  and their pleasure.   I guess you think you will stay young forever, and never have health issue  of any sort.  Well good luck with that.  

16 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

You impose silly and draconian restrictions on hard working people just trying to eek out a living, provide them with an embarrassing lack of assistance, and rules are going to be broken. 

 

Easy for overly rich, self entitled, "so called leaders"  to criticize and scapegoat anyone they can. 

They just don't get it, it's going to spread everywhere, people isolate and spread it to family and so on. 

Maybe some good news is my mother in law who works in the markets in HUA Hin says that no one appears to be sick any more where as 4 to five weeks ago she stayed home as some stall holders were collapsing from Delta, now she said she knows no one who is sick 

2 hours ago, shdmn said:

Why are people still under some illusion that lockdowns will stop or even slow down the spread with omicron? Lots of examples of countries that have heavy restrictions getting hit just as hard as countries without.  I don't think it matters one bit with omicron.  As long as you are breathing you will be exposed, doesn't matter what precautions are taken.

Exactly, the countries that imposed draconian rules are still hit as hard by spread, the world has to let this run and fissile out, and this may well be the end of the pandemic and prove to provide natural immunity, bye bye pandemic, we hope 

8 hours ago, Dumbfounded said:

Not much social distancing going on in my local Makro, Tesco, Big C, etc. Was in Bkk Bank today and several staff (talking amongst themselves) had their masks pulled down under the chin. You cant just blame the bars, people are lax everywhere

Social distancing did very little, same as masks really, vaccine was the only game changer. At least countries are realising lockdowns are a waste of time and money

18 hours ago, bbko said:

But the restaurants can limit the number of customers they allow in right?  I visited tree town not too long ago just to see what's it's like, and the place was PACKED, zero social distancing,  hundreds of mask-less people sitting within arms reach of each other.  Took me all of 5 seconds to determine it's not worth risking catching covid and quickly left. 

Vulnerable, high risk and concerned people should protect themselves and NOT go out to 'see what it's like' then complain about it. Can easily see 'what it's like' on YouTube almost daily.

18 hours ago, Lucky Bones said:

Yes Smedly. As I have said before,.....Thailand is not "Open", maybe an airport or 3 and then danger awaits.

Disappointment certainly awaits. 

16 hours ago, LivinLOS said:

How is it not thier fault. They assured everyone that if they would be allowed to open they would respect all the rules, maintain the distancing and order, etc. It was thier job not to be 'overwhelmed'. 

They got what they wanted (opening) and did none of what they promised and were obligated to do (because it had a cost). 

Hey @LivinL0Syou do know you're livin' in LOS...yes? ???? 

 

Rules, regs, contracts, licenses, etc. 

15 hours ago, WEBBYB808 said:

Pleasure  and money before saftey

I'll barfine & drink to that! ????

14 hours ago, Muzzique said:

Too little...too Late...

Too much for too long. 

Go to Phuket, no rules there, and yet cases of Omicron cases rising, sandbox will become pandoras box.

“The mayor defended his entertainment programme of weekly music festivals, including the Pattaya Countdown, claiming none of the infections came from there”.

.

Thai thinking at its finest.

14 hours ago, spetersen said:

That said all people around the globe need to be vaccinated,

Had covid 2x now.

Promptly treated both times,

and had real quick recovery.

Like Joe Rogan.

Natural immunity is orders of magnitude better,

safer, protection than

mRNA from Pfizer &c.

 

I've seen some "socializing" at "restaurants" in Pattaya over New Year, so I'm not surprised that we are where we are.

 

Unfairly targeted? I don't really see why! Ultimately it's the virus that targets people in crowded places.

25 minutes ago, papa al said:

Had covid 2x now.

Promptly treated both times,

and had real quick recovery.

Like Joe Rogan.

Natural immunity is orders of magnitude better,

safer, protection than

mRNA from Pfizer &c.

 

Good for you..... and the 5,500,000 and counting it has killed?

Like a bunch of school  kids blaming someone,  but themselves, how about a big jump in covid cases due to the never ending Festivals.....hoping people will  make money  instead of the government helping them like they should

3 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Good for you..... and the 5,500,000 and counting it has killed?

... guess all the lock-downs, masks, social distancing, and 'vaccines' failed them?

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Reincarnation in 7-10 days.

17 hours ago, Dumbfounded said:

Not much social distancing going on in my local Makro, Tesco, Big C, etc. Was in Bkk Bank today and several staff (talking amongst themselves) had their masks pulled down under the chin. You cant just blame the bars, people are lax everywhere

I made no attempt to blame bars, they are inanimate objects. But again, it cannot be denied that alcohol is a catalyst to lack of separation.

12 minutes ago, sandyf said:

I made no attempt to blame bars, they are inanimate objects. But again, it cannot be denied that alcohol is a catalyst to lack of separation.

I wasn't pointing that sentence at you personally, but in hindsight maybe I should have used the word "we"

9 hours ago, Skeptic7 said:

I'll barfine & drink to that! ????

Yep! and may you get that which you think you won't.  I bet you'd be they guy to catch the virus, know you have the virus and just don't  tell anyone, anfd then subject  others to your lack of values?  Am I far off?  Lol