Thailand’s first Omicron variant death reported in Songkhla province

[webfact]

 

The health office in the southern province of Songkhla has reported its first fatality from Omicron variant today (Sunday). The patient died at the Hat Yai Hospital on Wednesday.

 

The patient was a bed-ridden 86 year old woman who suffered from Alzheimer’s disease. She had received two doses of the Pfizer vaccine at Na Mom Hospital and was thought to have contracted COVID-19 from her grandson, who had returned from Phuket.

 

According to the timeline, the woman had a fever and productive cough on January 6th. She tested positive, using an antigen test kit, and was sent to Hat Yai Hospital the following day, where a second test confirmed the infection.

 

Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/thailands-first-omicron-variant-death-reported-in-songkhla-province/

 

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[richard_smith237]

Its good to read a factual report with plenty of information so we can draw our own conclusions....

 

It certainly seems that Covid-19 tipped the old dear over the edge into the nether..... I wonder if a regular cold or flu would not have done the same. 

 

Sadly, the vaccines were not enough to prevent serious infection but I continue to believe that vaccines are effective in protecting the vast majority.

 

 

[NicholasTH]

Age 86 .. ????

[richard_smith237]

2 minutes ago, NicholasTH said:

Age 86 .. ????

She could have had anther decade..... 

 

 

[TooMuchTime]

1 hour ago, NicholasTH said:

Age 86 .. ????

This means we need to vaccinate all children with double doses to end the pandemic!  A healthy young 86 year old dying with covid is very unusual.

[RichardColeman]

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

She could have had anther decade..... 

Yes, maybe, maybe not - but she is also 7 years over average life expectancy for a Thai women ! She is even older than UK life expectancy for a woman. People have to die of something, she could have also probably died of just seasonal flu !

 

If it ever gets to the point of keeping countries closed for the deaths of people in their eighties dying with omicron, Thailand - and the world - would really be up the creek

[Geoffggi]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

 

The patient was a bed-ridden 86 year old woman who suffered from Alzheimer’s disease.

A little unfair to record this as a death from Omicron, it was probably a contributing factor but the lady was not actually in peak physical condition from the description given.

[daveAustin]

3 minutes ago, Geoffggi said:

A little unfair to record this as a death from Omicron, it was probably a contributing factor but the lady was not actually in peak physical condition from the description given.

Part reason why tallies are so high in the west. Go to hospital with something completely unrelated to covid, contract covid later on but die of the original condition within 28 days and you’re still added to the covid deaths. 

[whaleboneman]

Kind of sad that they have to blame the grandson. Maybe just leave that out of the news as it benefits no one.

[kotsak]

2 minutes ago, whaleboneman said:

Kind of sad that they have to blame the grandson. Maybe just leave that out of the news as it benefits no one.

It benefits the continuous state of fear.. that's why some call it a media pandemic..

[Bkk Brian]

The more important aspect that this raises for me is how this was handled with the grandson depending on how old he is and his understanding. Hopefully plenty of consideration will have been given to avoid him feeling guilt for the rest of his life.

 

The debate on the victim ie Omicron the cause and her obvious age and health status is a very poor secondary consideration. If she had been involved in a car accident ended up fighting for her life in ICU and died she would have been classified as a road traffic victim, despite her age possibly contributing to her death.

 

Omicron was the trigger for this and so Omicron is to blame for her earlier than anticipated death.

Edited January 16, 2022 by Bkk Brian

[RichardL]

1 hour ago, Geoffggi said:

A little unfair to record this as a death from Omicron, it was probably a contributing factor but the lady was not actually in peak physical condition from the description given.

If it's a contributing factor it will normally be recorded on the death certificate, whatever the illness. It doesn't mean she died specifically OF Omicron, of course, but it would also be unfair to say it wasn't an Omicron death, just because she had other illnesses. 

[hotchilli]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

The patient was a bed-ridden 86 year old woman who suffered from Alzheimer’s disease. She had received two doses of the Pfizer vaccine at Na Mom Hospital and was thought to have contracted COVID-19 from her grandson, who had returned from Phuket.

Loving families love to share.

[arick]

4 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Its good to read a factual report with plenty of information so we can draw our own conclusions....

 

It certainly seems that Covid-19 tipped the old dear over the edge into the nether..... I wonder if a regular cold or flu would not have done the same. 

 

Sadly, the vaccines were not enough to prevent serious infection but I continue to believe that vaccines are effective in protecting the vast majority.

 

 

Yes normally they would leave out all the details of the age and underlying health issues. 

[Scott]

A post with false or misleading information has been removed.   

 

It was determined that her death was due to the Omicron variant of Covid.  Whether someone is 86 or 16, whether the person is in peak physical condition or morbidly obese, a medical examiner/coroner will make the determination of cause of death.   

 

 

[Puccini]

From the linked news article:

 

"...According to the timeline, the woman had a fever and productive cough..."

 

This is the first time I see a productive cough mentioned where the type of cough is specifically mentioned. Previously, it was always a dry cough wife all variants of the virus.

[fittobethaied]

3 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Yes, maybe, maybe not - but she is also 7 years over average life expectancy for a Thai women ! She is even older than UK life expectancy for a woman. People have to die of something, she could have also probably died of just seasonal flu !

 

If it ever gets to the point of keeping countries closed for the deaths of people in their eighties dying with omicron, Thailand - and the world - would really be up the creek

That's exactly what's happening, so we're already there. This lunacy has got to stop!

[Venom]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

She had received two doses of the Pfizer vaccine

Wow ????

[Puccini]

4 hours ago, TooMuchTime said:

This means we need to vaccinate all children with double doses to end the pandemic!  A healthy young 86 year old dying with covid is very unusual.

Actually, the news article says "a bed-ridden 86 year old woman who suffered from Alzheimer’s disease." There must have been something more than Alzheimer's for her to be bedridden.

[Gottfrid]

About 80 percent of infections are now Omicron variant. First person died at the age of 86. She could probably have died by a normal flu, or just a cold at the wrong time.

Feel sorry for her and the family, of course. However, it´s time to stop the clown circus. This is no longer more than a normal flu. learn to live with it and open up the country. The other option is to let everyone get infected before opening. Maybe another 5 - 10 years.

[Geoffggi]

34 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

IF the 86 year old lady had not caught Covid-19 (Omicron Variant) - would she be alive now or dead ???

 

 

There is only one person that can say for sure & he never let's on ................

[Almer]

5 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Its good to read a factual report with plenty of information so we can draw our own conclusions....

 

It certainly seems that Covid-19 tipped the old dear over the edge into the nether..... I wonder if a regular cold or flu would not have done the same. 

 

Sadly, the vaccines were not enough to prevent serious infection but I continue to believe that vaccines are effective in protecting the vast majority.

 

 

Good report and good follow up post

[ChrisKC]

2 hours ago, Geoffggi said:

A little unfair to record this as a death from Omicron, it was probably a contributing factor but the lady was not actually in peak physical condition from the description given.

Either she died from omicron (cause of death) or not. We are informed of this as a statement of fact. What is "unfair" about it? 

[Geoffggi]

1 minute ago, ChrisKC said:

Either she died from omicron (cause of death) or not. We are informed of this as a statement of fact. What is "unfair" about it? 

Possibly the statement of fact - It is an easy get out at the moment to blame Covid and one used too often to keep up the scare tactics IMO 

[cooked]

In Ireland (only coutry I have stats for) the average age at death due to Covid is two years more than the average life expectancy.

[johnarth]

1 hour ago, whaleboneman said:

Kind of sad that they have to blame the grandson. Maybe just leave that out of the news as it benefits no one.

like when someone gets killed by a car just leave the car out of it, not the car fault

[cocoonclub]

2 hours ago, daveAustin said:

contract covid later on but die of the original condition within 28 days and you’re still added to the covid deaths. 

That’s not true. 

[Swampy999]

So her son returned from Phuket, the sand box safe haven for covid and passed it on to his grandmother, sums up the 8000 daily new infections BS perfectly.

[BadSpottedDog]

Interesting that this popped up. We just went through similar.
My Mom is 80, in a care home, & in late stage Alzheimer's. She also has nodules on her lungs from childhood, which has always caused her issues. She has previously had severe reactions to vaccines, so I refused the covid vaccine for her.
We got the call that she had covid a couple of weeks ago. They were preparing to give her Remdesivir. I refused that, but requested other meds, high dose vit C via IV, and other vitamins instead. She only had a fever for one day, and is now back to normal.
I'm so sorry for this Thai woman & her family. I guess you just never know.

[jacko45k]

20 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

The other option is to let everyone get infected before opening. Maybe another 5 - 10 years.

Nonsense.....

The omicron is highly contagious and would certainly reach a herd immunity level far more quickly than that. Just need to achieve it while still protecting those most vulnerable. 'Those most vulnerable' will also need to be protected from other endemic ailments.. I am not of a mind to chuck them under the bus.