2long Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, mikebell said: 'Nuff said when allocating blame. Excessive Speed is the most frequent cause of accidents; it is the easiest to police and eradicate in any country with a police force. But it's only a bystander's opinion that the guy was riding at high speed. If the speed limit is 80km/h and the guy's doing 60 km/h, is this riding too fast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whale Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 4 hours ago, morrobay said: I don't know about these people who cross heavy fast traffic under a pedestrian bridge Bad Knees, I also (as a geriatric) find it incredibly painful to walk up stairs. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAFETY FIRST Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Moonlover said: What a callous attitude! One of the golden rules when driving, especially in an urban environment is: slow down and expect the unexpected! Yeah, lets slow down the traffic to a crawl. It's bad enough when there's a traffic accident, all the rubber neckers slowing to look at the blood and guts on the road 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
actonion Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 From the photo, its a built up area, it has street lights, lots of traffic, my guess is the bike was travelling too fast, that he lost control like 95% of them do, if not the old man, it would have been an electrical post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Grusa Posted January 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2022 4 hours ago, morrobay said: I don't know about these people who cross heavy fast traffic under a pedestrian bridge Try reading the full article, before victim blaming. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlover Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 39 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said: Yeah, lets slow down the traffic to a crawl. It's bad enough when there's a traffic accident, all the rubber neckers slowing to look at the blood and guts on the road It's better (and more humane) to save lives, not minutes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Warrior Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 it must be the season to try to "cull " people if thy dont die in road accidents !!! as there are may on daily basis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAFETY FIRST Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Moonlover said: It's better (and more humane) to save lives, not minutes. What's better (and more humane) is have the pedestrians use the walk bridge. I understand he was unable to use the bridge but he shouldn't be crossing a busy road. It's a bloody traffic hazard to have an elderly person crossing a busy road, you're just not expecting a pedestrian, it scares the bejesus out of you, the sudden unexpected hazard on the road. Drivers reaction could create a pile up. I've seen driver's pannic when seeing an animal on the road, vehicles braking, swerving. This old guy should be more responsible. Edited January 29, 2022 by SAFETY FIRST 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailand49 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 This is a toss up? old man crossing the road under a bridge not a crosswalk but simpler easy to get across. Motorbike driver going pedal to the metal not looking ahead to traffic? Makes me wonder in a few years when I'm 74 will I be able to get it up????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanuk711 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 hour ago, thailand49 said: Makes me wonder in a few years when I'm 74 will I be able to get it up? Your let us all know ----wont ya.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Many years ago, I attempted this rather foolish act, not being that familiar with this insane driving. I nearly got killed. Not smart. Always use a crosswalk or bridge. And always cross at corners, if possible. Survival here depends on smarts, good common sense and being very careful. Drivers here yield to few cars or bikes. The law of the land here seems to be the bigger your vehicle, the more people yield to you. Big trucks are highest on the totem. Then cars. Then bikes. Last of all are pedestrians. They get mowed down all the time here. And most of the time people don't even stop afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post billd766 Posted January 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2022 3 hours ago, Whale said: Bad Knees, I also (as a geriatric) find it incredibly painful to walk up stairs. Thank you. At 77 with 2 STS kneecaps and a bad back I hobble around too. Fortunately I live in rural Thailand and most drivers and riders DO give way when I cross the road in the village. I do the same when driving my pickup truck especially if it is a woman with children trying to cross. Still there are some bikers try to get past on either side of me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StreetCowboy Posted January 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2022 7 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said: It's clear from the article that he is an old man. An aged pedestrian is just as dangerous on our roads as a reckless driver. When driving at speed you're not expecting a hobbling old man crossing the road, it's so dangerous, just going to cause a bloody accident. Perhaps you could drive with care and attention. I have never heard of anyone being injured by being struck by a hobbling old man. Don’t blame the victim. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetCowboy Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 2 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said: What's better (and more humane) is have the pedestrians use the walk bridge. I understand he was unable to use the bridge but he shouldn't be crossing a busy road. It's a bloody traffic hazard to have an elderly person crossing a busy road, you're just not expecting a pedestrian, it scares the bejesus out of you, the sudden unexpected hazard on the road. Drivers reaction could create a pile up. I've seen driver's pannic when seeing an animal on the road, vehicles braking, swerving. This old guy should be more responsible. He probably won’t do it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 9 hours ago, morrobay said: I don't know about these people who cross heavy fast traffic under a pedestrian bridge Maybe you would, if you you could be bothered to read the FULL STORY ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 3 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said: What's better (and more humane) is have the pedestrians use the walk bridge. I understand he was unable to use the bridge but he shouldn't be crossing a busy road. It's a bloody traffic hazard to have an elderly person crossing a busy road, you're just not expecting a pedestrian, it scares the bejesus out of you, the sudden unexpected hazard on the road. Drivers reaction could create a pile up. I've seen driver's pannic when seeing an animal on the road, vehicles braking, swerving. This old guy should be more responsible. One day you little wipper snapper you may grow old and infirm, or maybe infirm before you get old, I live in hope. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Triangle Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Well I was gonna add my thoughts & disabilities to the discussion but the hostility of the majority of commentators has put me off, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 These cross bridges are rarely used, most take their chances crossing the road, especially school kids. climbing high steps in the heat of the day. They need pedestrian subways with ramps up and down. but ......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAFETY FIRST Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 It's obvious by the sad and confused faces I'm receiving in my comments that I'm outnumbered. I'm fine with that but you guys are scaring me, we all know how dangerous the roads are in Thailand but there are heaps of you guys that think it's fine for a 74-year-old Thai man to cross a busy road. What's wrong with you people? I'm a big fan of safety and allowing a for a 74-year-old Thai man to cross a busy road in Thailand is just an unsafe act. I'm not attacking the elderly, why are you guys so stubborn, why can't you see the danger OMG 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrobay Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, spidermike007 said: . Always use a crosswalk or bridge. And always cross at corners, if possible. ?? Crosswalks don't mean anything here. Did you forget about the female doctor ? No corners are the worst place to cross: fast turning vehicles from nowhere. Too many variables. Best to walk up aways from any corner where you have longer range visibility. And of course the bridge is the safest crossing. Edited January 29, 2022 by morrobay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETERTHEEATER Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 8 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said: It's clear from the article that he is an old man. No, it isn't. If accurate, it's clear that he was 74 years of age. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
it is what it is Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 37 minutes ago, brianthainess said: These cross bridges are rarely used, most take their chances crossing the road, especially school kids. climbing high steps in the heat of the day. They need pedestrian subways with ramps up and down. but ......... have to disagree, i live in bangkok and people use the bridges to cross the road, only vendors with carts try their luck, and the efficacy of their amulets, attempting to dodge the traffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jacko45k Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 18 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said: t's a bloody traffic hazard to have an elderly person crossing a busy road, you're just not expecting a pedestrian, it scares the bejesus out of you, the sudden unexpected hazard on the road. Are they dropping down out of the sky or being inadvertently placed there by the Enterprise's transporter? Sounds more like someone looking up from their phone the way you put it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 minute ago, jacko45k said: Are they dropping down out of the sky or being inadvertently placed there by the Enterprise's transporter? Sounds more like someone looking up from their phone the way you put it. The poster has obviously never taken nor understood the basics of a defensive driving course, or he would be trained to expecte and anticipate the unexpected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2long Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 3 hours ago, Victornoir said: Disagree. The driver must ALWAYS be in control of his speed and able to stop when faced with an unexpected obstacle. Even on the fast lane it is wise to slow down in agglomeration. The motorcyclist is at fault. You're right. Drivers need to be ready for anything, but the feeling I get is that the rhetoric is putting extra blame on the rider, in light of recent events... and not focussing on the old guy choosing what some would say was a daft place to try crossing a road, especially due to his age and condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Pedestrian bridge: the safe place to cross. These bridges are placed across roads that are too dangerous to cross at street level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 3 hours ago, 2long said: Drivers need to be ready for anything, Only thing they are ready for is an incoming call or Facebook/Line notification. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 23 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said: It's obvious by the sad and confused faces I'm receiving in my comments that I'm outnumbered. I'm fine with that but you guys are scaring me, we all know how dangerous the roads are in Thailand but there are heaps of you guys that think it's fine for a 74-year-old Thai man to cross a busy road. What's wrong with you people? I'm a big fan of safety and allowing a for a 74-year-old Thai man to cross a busy road in Thailand is just an unsafe act. I'm not attacking the elderly, why are you guys so stubborn, why can't you see the danger OMG Older people always think they are right, they when you comment om them its ageism, but at the same time they want special treatment. If you can't cross a bridge like that then ask for help or find an other way. Like you said they put those bridges there because its unsafe to cross the road walking. Then some older person risks it gets hit and they all blame the driver. Madness. Sure drivers need to be in control of their car / bike but people should not be crossing busy roads when there is a pedestrian bridge. Its a wide road with fast-moving traffic probably a speed limit of 80 or so. Try dodging that. Madness. Can't blame the old guy totally either as Thailand is not exactly friendly for the handicapped or older still to put the blame on the motorcycle driver who probably just wen 80 (speed limit on many of those roads most scooters don't go much faster a 100 maybe). Bit unfair, but given the audience in this forum you wont win. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAFETY FIRST Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) My friend has a sad face attached to all my comments. Must be a Kiwi, no safety/common sense. Just kidding ???? Edited January 30, 2022 by SAFETY FIRST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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