Standard bike, straight out the showroom - Not road legal ?

[properperson]

Went to my local dealers today to check out the new Honda ADV 350 "urban racer edition" - A limited edition to get the model off  to flying start ....

 

I looked inside the "yoshimura" silencer and thought there is no way that can be road legal - I told the salesman my concerns, but he assured me that it was road legal - It is exactly how it was delivered from Honda, and the same as the advertising promo stuff - no way would the manufacturers sell a new bike that wasn't 100% road legal ....

 

Synical me looked for a "TIS" stamp, but there wasn't one ....

 

Someone who has bought one of the first ones registered, concerned about the noise, has taken it to his local MOT test centre for a DB test .... (legal limit is 95DB) .....

 

Imagine shelling out 200,000 baht for your brand new shiny bike and 100m down the road from the dealers getting a tug by the rozzers with a db tester, who take great pleasure in confiscating the bike and crushing the exhaust ....

.

 

[Will B Good]

100 dB.....that is deafening!!!!

 

The decibel scale is logarithmic.

Edited March 31, 2022 by Will B Good

[VocalNeal]

And the point of this thread is?

 

That muffler is listed by Honda as an accessory. So you can request to have one fitted if YOU wish. 

 

Also one can also buy dB killers for Yoshimura if YOU wish.

Edited March 31, 2022 by VocalNeal

[scubascuba3]

Sad when juveniles buy these type of exhausts

[Will B Good]

2 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Sad when juveniles buy these type of exhausts

I think the less power the have the louder the exhaust has to be......55

[OneMoreFarang]

26 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

I think the less power the have the louder the exhaust has to be......55

True.

 

But it seems many of us forget that we were also young some time ago. I also had a small bike at that time. When I was 16 I wasn't allowed to have anything faster. So what did I do? I made it louder so at least I though it is faster.

I am not a fan of very loud bikes. But I think it is not too difficult to understand why mostly young guys do what they do - not only in Thailand. 

 

 

[scubascuba3]

9 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

True.

 

But it seems many of us forget that we were also young some time ago. I also had a small bike at that time. When I was 16 I wasn't allowed to have anything faster. So what did I do? I made it louder so at least I though it is faster.

I am not a fan of very loud bikes. But I think it is not too difficult to understand why mostly young guys do what they do - not only in Thailand. 

 

 

old sad farang also do it

[OneMoreFarang]

50 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

old sad farang also do it

They try to remember the time when they were young and had those loud bikes. ???? 

[Simple Jack]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

True.

 

But it seems many of us forget that we were also young some time ago. I also had a small bike at that time. When I was 16 I wasn't allowed to have anything faster. So what did I do? I made it louder so at least I though it is faster.

I am not a fan of very loud bikes. But I think it is not too difficult to understand why mostly young guys do what they do - not only in Thailand. 

 

 

Nice pic. ????

[Damrongsak]

That Yoshi muffler is a 21,670 Baht option!  I see the limit in Malaysia is 75 db.

 

Not sure where this is, but looks like fun.

 

[eisfeld]

@properperson at what RPM was that measurement taken? Did they look at the specs to determine how the test needs to be done? I have not seen a single test being performed in Thailand in full accordance with the TIS regulations.

[VocalNeal]

16 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

 

 

I have two of those????

 

[OneMoreFarang]

2 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

I have two of those????

 

I always dreamed about those 4 pipes of the RD500. But I could never afford it.

[VocalNeal]

46 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I always dreamed about those 4 pipes of the RD500. But I could never afford it.

I yearned for 3 but didn't have the courage to jump. Would have been even madder when ex-wife sold it.

 

 

She sold one of these instead 

 

Edited April 1, 2022 by VocalNeal

[LarrySR]

I appreciate the sound of a great engine with a performance pipe but a 150cc CVT Honda scooter looks and sounds ridiculous.

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, LarrySR said:

I appreciate the sound of a great engine with a performance pipe but a 150cc CVT Honda scooter looks and sounds ridiculous.

150cc Suzuki Raider. Yeah!

Edited April 3, 2022 by OneMoreFarang

[Rimmer]

Some off topic posts and replies have been removed, topic is not about electric bike and charging them

[Liverpool Lou]

On 4/1/2022 at 9:57 AM, eisfeld said:

@properperson at what RPM was that measurement taken? Did they look at the specs to determine how the test needs to be done? I have not seen a single test being performed in Thailand in full accordance with the TIS regulations.

"I have not seen a single test being performed in Thailand in full accordance..."

How many tests have you actually witnessed being performed?

[Moonlover]

43 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

"I have not seen a single test being performed in Thailand in full accordance..."

How many tests have you actually witnessed being performed?

Or read the full TIS regulations for that matter.

[Agusts]

So many loud bikes in Thailand and they never bother, do you think BIB will bother to stop a brand new ADV350 and test it's exhaust to find it is 5db over the limit - even if their equipment is that sensitive..! maybe that shop showed 5db too much !? 

[The Hammer2021]

On 3/31/2022 at 5:52 PM, scubascuba3 said:

Sad when juveniles buy these type of exhausts

Even sadder when adults use them

[VocalNeal]

32 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

Even sadder when adults use them

Different people like different kinds of music.

 

 

You can thank me for the ringtone later.

Edited April 3, 2022 by VocalNeal

[The Hammer2021]

2 hours ago, VocalNeal said:

Different people like different kinds of music.

 

 

You can thank me for the ringtone later.

An empty vessel makes most noise.

[Fab5BKK]

To a certain extent, I'd understand a race can on a superbike (ZX10R, R1, etc.) or a powerful roadster (SpeedTriple, Monster, etc.), but honestly, I do not, really, see the point on a scooter!

[VocalNeal]

10 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

An empty vessel makes most noise.

Why they put sound absorbing material inside.

[Hummin]

3 hours ago, VocalNeal said:

Different people like different kinds of music.

 

 

You can thank me for the ringtone later.

Not a road legal bike in that clip ????

[eisfeld]

12 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

"I have not seen a single test being performed in Thailand in full accordance..."

How many tests have you actually witnessed being performed?

Just with my own bikes probably around a dozen.

 

11 hours ago, Moonlover said:

Or read the full TIS regulations for that matter.

I've read it. That's why I know that they don't do the tests according to the regulation. And that's why the screenshot with the 100dB reading in the OP does not need to mean much because the bike might just as well produce 95dB at the relevant RPM. If you took say a Ducati Panigale V4 right from the showroom with the standard exhaust and just tested it for the maximum noise it can produce you will see it exceed 100dB by quite a bit. And yet it's road legal because at the relevant RPM it shuts a valve in the exhaust.