Electric Vehicles in Thailand

[josephbloggs]

1 hour ago, josephbloggs said:

"Real life testing" is driving flat out around the Nurburgring?? Really??

Again you are talking rubbish. A Nissan GT-R uses almost half a tank on a flying lap. (Same as the Tesla used almost half its battery).

A BMW 135i uses about a quarter of a tank on a lap, as does a Subaru Impreza WRX STi.

I have no comment on the Tesla's brakes - maybe they are not very good.

Too late to edit my answer, but @Cameroni why do you think they have petrol stations on the Nordschleife?

Not sure if you know what this race track is, how long it is, how hilly it is, or how brutal it is for all kinds of vehicles. More than 300m of elevation gain around the circuit. 170+ corners. 

[ExpatOilWorker]

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

So, if I drive the speed limit, if possible, say 90 kph on most highways in TH, do you think I'll be OK ????????

90 km/h??

The MG struggle to get up to the speed limit of 120 km/h?

 

[BKKBike09]

I seem to be finding secret caches of EVs everywhere I look. This time I found a whole load of Changan (I think) lurking in a central Bangkok location. I was having my headlights polished (not a euphemism) and these were across the road.

 

 

 

And - just for EOW - here's a non EV (not on fire either, although it sure goes like it is - a GR Yaris, a snip at something over 2 million)

 

 

 

 

 

[JBChiangRai]

6 minutes ago, BKKBike09 said:

And - just for EOW - here's a non EV (not on fire either, although it sure goes like it is - a GR Yaris, a snip at something over 2 million)

 

 

 

 

 

Too slow, BYD Seal Performance far faster & superior.

[ExpatOilWorker]

3 minutes ago, BKKBike09 said:

I seem to be finding secret caches of EVs everywhere I look. This time I found a whole load of Changan (I think) lurking in a central Bangkok location. I was having my headlights polished (not a euphemism) and these were across the road.

 

 

 

And - just for EOW - here's a non EV (not on fire either, although it sure goes like it is - a GR Yaris, a snip at something over 2 million)

 

 

 

 

 

BB9 our man in the field, keeping an eay what is (not moving) in the EV industry.

This time I am more interested in your headlight story, did it work?

My headlight are as distorted as they get. I have tried various DIY kits, but they are deteriorate on the inside and BMW molded the plastic cover to the housing, so it is all or nothing if I replace them.

 

[Yellowtail]

7 minutes ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

BB9 our man in the field, keeping an eay what is (not moving) in the EV industry.

This time I am more interested in your headlight story, did it work?

My headlight are as distorted as they get. I have tried various DIY kits, but they are deteriorate on the inside and BMW molded the plastic cover to the housing, so it is all or nothing if I replace them.

 

You need a buffer and some cutting compound. Most of that is on the outside. 

 

 

[Cameroni]

2 hours ago, KhunLA said:

So, if I drive the speed limit, if possible, say 90 kph on most highways in TH, do you think I'll be OK ????????

 

In a normal petrol car should be fine, in one of those glorified electric golf carts I'd make sure you're charged up....

 

Also make sure your battery is not burning...

[KhunLA]

6 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

In a normal petrol car should be fine, in one of those glorified electric golf carts I'd make sure you're charged up....

 

Also make sure your battery is not burning...

You should go fishing with EOW, as nothing biting here 

 

[Yellowtail]

3 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

You should go fishing with EOW, as nothing biting here 

 

Is that your MG  EB? 

[Cameroni]

11 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

You should go fishing with EOW, as nothing biting here 

 

 

It's great you're in the water already, in case the battery explodes...

[KhunLA]

17 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Is that your MG  EB? 

I wish ... and yea, I was actually looking at EBs, or even kayak, and they even have E-SUP/surfboards.   Since living surfside ish.   All silly priced and need to be imported.   Then I'd be buying fishing rods, and prepping for the apocalypses   

[Pib]

1 hour ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

BB9 our man in the field, keeping an eay what is (not moving) in the EV industry.

This time I am more interested in your headlight story, did it work?

My headlight are as distorted as they get. I have tried various DIY kits, but they are deteriorate on the inside and BMW molded the plastic cover to the housing, so it is all or nothing if I replace them.

 

The great majority of that should sand-out...wet sanding.  Start with 800 grit and finish with 2000 to 3000 grit.  You can do this by hand but a rotary sander/buffer would be better.   After the sanding using some polishing paste after the 2000 grit would be a good idea.  Finish up with some sealant/clear coat (important) such as below.   Sure worked on my 2009 Fortuner that wasn't as bad as above (about half as bad).   Don't use any chemicals to clean the lens as it can make them look better for a short time but it don't last and chemical can actually damage the lens.

[Bandersnatch]

Another brainless troll added to my ignore list

 

Life is too short to waste my time reading nonsense

[Yellowtail]

3 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said:

Another brainless troll added to my ignore list

 

Life is too short to waste my time reading nonsense

Please add me

[Gweiloman]

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

Please add me

Oh, so you’re admitting to being a troll?

[Yellowtail]

7 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

Oh, so you’re admitting to being a troll?

No, but I'm tired of you trolling me, and if you add me to your list, you will not see my posts and your nonsensical responses will stop. 

[BKKBike09]

14 hours ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

This time I am more interested in your headlight story, did it work?

My headlight are as distorted as they get. I have tried various DIY kits, but they are deteriorate on the inside and BMW molded the plastic cover to the housing, so it is all or nothing if I replace them.

 

 

Indeed it did. As per some helpful other posts it needs abrasion (sandpaper) and a fresh lacquer coat. Cost THB 800 and was done in less than an hour. I'd say back to 95% of original for mine. Not bad for a 13 yo car and it looks so much better.

 

To keep on topic: also works for EV headlights.

[Yellowtail]

4 minutes ago, BKKBike09 said:

 

Indeed it did. As per some helpful other posts it needs abrasion (sandpaper) and a fresh lacquer coat. Cost THB 800 and was done in less than an hour. I'd say back to 95% of original for mine. Not bad for a 13 yo car and it looks so much better.

 

To keep on topic: also works for EV headlights.

EV plastic never yellows

[BKKBike09]

15 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

Too slow, BYD Seal Performance far faster & superior.

 

Going to have to disagree with you here JB. Seal, Scmheal. Meh. Straight line fast but other than that, out of the box I'm sure you'd need to do a lot of work on suspension / brakes at a minimum to really hoon it around. Buy a Yaris now and you can also sell it in a year for more than you paid for it. Won't be doing that with a Seal.

 

What's not to like about this (and this is the pre-2024 model!)

 

Engine: 1,618cc, turbocharged 3-cyl
Transmission: 6-speed manual, all-wheel drive
Power (hp): 261@6,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 266@3,000-4,600rpm
0-62mph: 5.5 seconds
Top speed: 143mph (electronically limited)
Weight: 1,280-1,310kg (minimum and maximum)
MPG: 34.3
CO2: 186g/km driving
On sale: 2020-date
Price: £29,995 (2020, before Circuit Pack or Convenience Pack)
Price now: £30,000-£40,000

https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-features/gr-yaris-wins-best-hot-hatch-of-last-25-years/46989

[Bandersnatch]

18 hours ago, marino28 said:

Big discount for the Mg Hs Phev

 

https://www.car250.com/mg-hs-phev-thai-2024-1.html

 

Why would you buy a CRV?

 

 

Lowest performance in the range:

 

Honda CRV    0 to 100 in 9 seconds

MG HS PHEV  0 to 100 in 6.9 seconds

 

Horsepower kW

Honda CRV 109 

MG HS PHEV 209

 

Torque N-m

Honda CRV 183

MG HS PHEV 480

 

 

CRV       Length 4,691 mm Width 1,866 mm  Height 1,664 mm 

MG HS  Length 4,670 mm Width 1,890 mm  Height 1,691 mm 

[JBChiangRai]

42 minutes ago, BKKBike09 said:

 

Going to have to disagree with you here JB. Seal, Scmheal. Meh. Straight line fast but other than that, out of the box I'm sure you'd need to do a lot of work on suspension / brakes at a minimum to really hoon it around. Buy a Yaris now and you can also sell it in a year for more than you paid for it. Won't be doing that with a Seal.

 

What's not to like about this (and this is the pre-2024 model!)

 

Engine: 1,618cc, turbocharged 3-cyl
Transmission: 6-speed manual, all-wheel drive
Power (hp): 261@6,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 266@3,000-4,600rpm
0-62mph: 5.5 seconds
Top speed: 143mph (electronically limited)
Weight: 1,280-1,310kg (minimum and maximum)
MPG: 34.3
CO2: 186g/km driving
On sale: 2020-date
Price: £29,995 (2020, before Circuit Pack or Convenience Pack)
Price now: £30,000-£40,000

https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-features/gr-yaris-wins-best-hot-hatch-of-last-25-years/46989

 

I'm sure it's a lot of fun to drive, but hard work.  I would be interesting to see the numbers of that and the Seal around the Nürburgring.

[Bandersnatch]

45 minutes ago, BKKBike09 said:

 

Going to have to disagree with you here JB. Seal, Scmheal. Meh. Straight line fast but other than that, out of the box I'm sure you'd need to do a lot of work on suspension / brakes at a minimum to really hoon it around. Buy a Yaris now and you can also sell it in a year for more than you paid for it. Won't be doing that with a Seal.

 

What's not to like about this (and this is the pre-2024 model!)

 

 

BYD Seal AWD Performance v Toyota GR Yaris 

 

Yaris over 1million Baht more 

 

 

 

 

 

 

BYD Seal AWD:

 

Power: 523 hp

Torque: 670 Nm

0-100kph 3.8 seconds

 

Yaris GR 2024  - lots of inconsistency in the figures I saw online so I don't feel comfortable posting any of them  

 

 

 

[newnative]

24 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said:

 

Why would you buy a CRV?

 

 

Lowest performance in the range:

 

Honda CRV    0 to 100 in 9 seconds

MG HS PHEV  0 to 100 in 6.9 seconds

 

Horsepower kW

Honda CRV 109 

MG HS PHEV 209

 

Torque N-m

Honda CRV 183

MG HS PHEV 480

 

 

CRV       Length 4,691 mm Width 1,866 mm  Height 1,664 mm 

MG HS  Length 4,670 mm Width 1,890 mm  Height 1,691 mm 

      My spouse and I came to the same conclusion--and we currently own a 2018 CR-V which we like.  We looked at the new one and it just did not look new enough for us--as I said in another post, the current model should have been the 2020 model.  Or 2021 at the very latest.  2021 or 2022 should have been a blank sheet of paper design.  Here it is 2024 and still same old, same old.     

      I don't know why Honda has been so slow with the CR-V.  They've radically changed the Civic  and other models several times while keeping the same current CR-V shape since even before our model year.  The new model looks very dated with its styling--especially compared with the new Chinese models arriving--and we were not that impressed with its interior.  Plus, no plug-in hybrid and very expensive.   And, we hated the black wheels--along with the black grill.  Just too much black.   Although the Amish in my native Pennsylvania probably love it.

     Had we bought a new CR-V, we would have selected the top model, at around 1.729MB.  Instead, we have booked a BYD Sealion 6 PHEV for a little over 1MB, saving nearly 700,000 baht.   The MG HS on discount looks like a terrific bargain.

[BKKBike09]

21 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

I'm sure it's a lot of fun to drive, but hard work.  I would be interesting to see the numbers of that and the Seal around the Nürburgring.

 

I can't give a Nurburgring time, but here's Castle Combe: https://fastestlaps.com/tracks/castle-combe

 

Seal did well: https://byd.carmagazine.co.uk/byd-seal-electric-track-test

 

However I'd still prefer the GR Yaris for this.

 

Back to EVs in Thailand: Take your Seal to Buriram or Bira and give us a track day report!

 

[JBChiangRai]

8 minutes ago, BKKBike09 said:

Back to EVs in Thailand: Take your Seal to Buriram or Bira and give us a track day report!

 

 

I think that would invalidate the warranty

[Andrew Dwyer]

Wondering if any Atto 3 early adopters have been informed about the subscription fee for the 2gb monthly internet renewal ?

[Yellowtail]

3 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Wondering if any Atto 3 early adopters have been informed about the subscription fee for the 2gb monthly internet renewal ?

I heard it was B100/ year, no? 

[marino28]

Price reduction for the Ora 

 

https://www.car250.com/ora-good-cat-my2024-09.html

[BKKBike09]

5 hours ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Wondering if any Atto 3 early adopters have been informed about the subscription fee for the 2gb monthly internet renewal ?

Not heard anything.

[Andrew Dwyer]

Another price drop:

 

 

2 years ago i would have gone for this at this price and would have been satisfied I am sure.