Ukrainian leaders worried about 'war fatigue' among Western allies amid protracted conflict with Russia

[sscc]

12 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Nope  there is another way out. Defeat the war criminal Putin. 

Zelansky came out talking in media virtually everyday or at least few times a week. 

I did not bother with any of it. 

 

Putin came out talking in public might be 3-4 times since the war starting on Feb 24, 2022. 

My memory was Putin came out addressing the Russia public in early/mid March,  and then another time while the Russia warship had been hit and sunk at sea  and lately about one week ago, June 7,  he suddenly talked about the history of Peter the Great. 

 

Note Putin body language and facial/eye expression in these few talks and changing from uptight and nervous posture in the early talk to his ease and contented posture and tone.   Now Russia force is in  control and progressing well from Putin standpoint.  (  Russia was not doing well in battlefield in First 2 months of the war )

 

I concern only of facts and reality.   

Your point suggested you are not aware what is going on.  

[sscc]

Several dozen postings about Ukraine/Zelensky paying for weapon supply by USA, NATO ? 
 

This war is ultimately  Russia Vs USA ,  and personally  Putin Vs Biden. 

Putin is holding  a weaker hand of cards right from the beginning as in poker/card games. 

(  Chess play is almost equal at the beginning for both players,  but this is not the case ) 

 

The world had known Putin well since he came to power about 20 years ago  --  Dated back to George W Bush era.     

 

As of Biden,  he knew little about economics and economy and had a strong background and history in working on foreign affair and global politics.  Biden came to the top post for 1.5 year  ( ignore his VP 2009-16  )  and  a bit surprising that during his watch,  USA is losing ground in global affairs too  --  Not convinced ?   Review how Biden was doing in USA-ASEAN Summit and USA-Latin America Summit just finished days/weeks ago and how India.  Saudi Arabia, UAE, Turkey, Brazil etc are not "cooperative"  to Biden call.    Not even mention China is quietly and gladly gaining ground in global affairs for the past year. 

 

 

[sscc]

12 hours ago, placeholder said:

Yes, Putin has repeatedly demonstrated the awesomeness of the Russian military. A military that Ukraine has defeated in one compaign and has taken back territory from Russia as well as losing some. And this despite Russia's big advantage in arms. Have you considered the possibility that Russia may not be able to keep up the pace of its offensive for much longer?

Note the facts and data below and you can self-answer own question. 

The war started on Feb 24, 2022 

 

US$  Vs   RUB Rubles 

Jan 2022   ...                      1 : 75 

Early March 2022           1  : 136  

April 30, 2022                    1 : 73 

Today  June 15, 2022        1 : 59    

 

Euro  Vs  RUB Rubles 

Jan 2022                           1 :  86

Early March 2022            1 :  150

April 30, 2022                   1  : 77 

Today  June 15, 2022       1 :  62

 

Russia interest rate 

Before the war  :                               9%

Feb 28, 2022      :          raised to     20%

April 8, 2022  :              dropped to  17%

April 30, 2022 :              dropped to  14%

May 26, 2022  :             dropped to  11 %

Today June 15, 2022  :                      11%

 

 

The Western Media are of course do own  Deliberation and  INTENTIONALLY   NOT reporting about this set of data nowadays. 

But the Western Media were all too keen reporting on 20% Russia interest rate ..... Blah Blah Blah    months ago.   

 

 

[placeholder]

Just now, sscc said:

Note the facts and data below and you can self-answer own question. 

The war started on Feb 24, 2022 

 

US$  Vs   RUB Rubles 

Jan 2022   ...                      1 : 75 

Early March 2022           1  : 136  

April 30, 2022                    1 : 73 

Today  June 15, 2022        1 : 59    

 

Euro  Vs  RUB Rubles 

Jan 2022                           1 :  86

Early March 2022            1 :  150

April 30, 2022                   1  : 77 

Today  June 15, 2022       1 :  62

 

Russia interest rate 

Before the war  :                               9%

Feb 28, 2022      :          raised to     20%

April 8, 2022  :              dropped to  17%

April 30, 2022 :              dropped to  14%

May 26, 2022  :             dropped to  11 %

Today June 15, 2022  :                      11%

 

 

The Western Media are of course do own  Deliberation and  INTENTIONALLY   NOT reporting about this set of data nowadays. 

But the Western Media were all too keen reporting on 20% Russia interest rate ..... Blah Blah Blah    months ago.   

 

 

Apparently, you believe that the rise in the ruble is a measure of strength of the Russian economy. Nothing could be further from the truth. The reason the ruble has risen so much is that Russia can't spend them on the supplies it needs to fuel its economy. If Russia were able to make those purchases the cost of the ruble would decline.

https://marketmonetarist.com/2022/04/03/the-ruble-has-appreciated-exactly-because-the-sanctions-work/

[Bkk Brian]

53 minutes ago, sscc said:

Zelansky came out talking in media virtually everyday or at least few times a week. 

I did not bother with any of it. 

That figures

54 minutes ago, sscc said:

Note Putin body language and facial/eye expression in these few talks and changing from uptight and nervous posture in the early talk to his ease and contented posture and tone.   

Really? 

55 minutes ago, sscc said:

I concern only of facts and reality.   

Your point suggested you are not aware what is going on.  

Your post is all facts and reality is it? 

 

I disagree.

[placeholder]

24 minutes ago, sscc said:

Several dozen postings about Ukraine/Zelensky paying for weapon supply by USA, NATO ? 
 

This war is ultimately  Russia Vs USA ,  and personally  Putin Vs Biden. 

Putin is holding  a weaker hand of cards right from the beginning as in poker/card games. 

(  Chess play is almost equal at the beginning for both players,  but this is not the case ) 

 

The world had known Putin well since he came to power about 20 years ago  --  Dated back to George W Bush era.     

 

As of Biden,  he knew little about economics and economy and had a strong background and history in working on foreign affair and global politics.  Biden came to the top post for 1.5 year  ( ignore his VP 2009-16  )  and  a bit surprising that during his watch,  USA is losing ground in global affairs too  --  Not convinced ?   Review how Biden was doing in USA-ASEAN Summit and USA-Latin America Summit just finished days/weeks ago and how India.  Saudi Arabia, UAE, Turkey, Brazil etc are not "cooperative"  to Biden call.    Not even mention China is quietly and gladly gaining ground in global affairs for the past year. 

 

 

China is doing well, is it?

It has had to retreat on its support of Russia out of fear of the consequences for its industry of incurring sanctions for trading with Russia. Chinese companies have withdrawn en masse from doing business with Russia and China has refused to honor Russia's request to supply it with weapons.

China just got rebuffed by small Pacific island nations in its blatant grab for power.

India has moved much closer to the United States in the wake of Chinese aggression in the Himalayas.

Industries are moving supply chains out of China because if its increasingly arbitrary and irrational governance.

 

As for Saudia Arabia, the UAE, Turkey, and Brazil, considering the irrational and grandiose nature of their leaders, with the possible exception of the UAEk is it any surprise that they are not getting along with the USA? 

[sscc]

12 minutes ago, placeholder said:

China is doing well, is it?

It has had to retreat on its support of Russia out of fear of the consequences for its industry of incurring sanctions for trading with Russia. Chinese companies have withdrawn en masse from doing business with Russia and China has refused to honor Russia's request to supply it with weapons.

China just got rebuffed by small Pacific island nations in its blatant grab for power.

India has moved much closer to the United States in the wake of Chinese aggression in the Himalayas.

Industries are moving supply chains out of China because if its increasingly arbitrary and irrational governance.

 

As for Saudia Arabia, the UAE, Turkey, and Brazil, considering the irrational and grandiose nature of their leaders, with the possible exception of the UAEk is it any surprise that they are not getting along with the USA? 

 

Not keen on writing long paragraph after paragraph,  let me address just one subject for now. 

 

Now On  CNN  Politics Page  : " Saudi Crown Prince outlasts US' moral outrage, with a little help from soaring gas prices  "      CNN :   " Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman has outlasted the United States, '

 

 

Memory dated back just In 2017,   Trump made his FIRST presidential visit aboard in May 2017,   the stage was Extraordinary GRAND in Riyadh,  Saudi Arabia.   You can still found video recording on Youtube. 

 

So 5 years later,  Saudi had done a total twist and so was the reporting on CNN. 

You go figure yourself. 

 

 

 

 

[placeholder]

Just now, sscc said:

 

Not keen on writing long paragraph after paragraph,  let me address just one subject for now. 

 

Now On  CNN  Politics Page  : " Saudi Crown Prince outlasts US' moral outrage, with a little help from soaring gas prices  "      CNN :   " Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman has outlasted the United States, '

 

 

Memory dated back just In 2017,   Trump made his FIRST presidential visit aboard in May 2017,   the stage was Extraordinary GRAND in Riyadh,  Saudi Arabia.   You can still found video recording on Youtube. 

 

So 5 years later,  Saudi had done a total twist and so was the reporting on CNN. 

You go figure yourself. 

And Trump ended up making Saudi Arabia very happy by scuttling the agreement with Iran which is now on the verge of possessing nuclear weapons. Biden certainly wouldn't have made the Saudis happy in that way. But hey, that was quite a party!

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/22/world/middleeast/trump-glowing-orb-saudi.html

[heybruce]

3 hours ago, sscc said:

Note the facts and data below and you can self-answer own question. 

The war started on Feb 24, 2022 

 

US$  Vs   RUB Rubles 

Jan 2022   ...                      1 : 75 

Early March 2022           1  : 136  

April 30, 2022                    1 : 73 

Today  June 15, 2022        1 : 59    

 

Euro  Vs  RUB Rubles 

Jan 2022                           1 :  86

Early March 2022            1 :  150

April 30, 2022                   1  : 77 

Today  June 15, 2022       1 :  62

 

Russia interest rate 

Before the war  :                               9%

Feb 28, 2022      :          raised to     20%

April 8, 2022  :              dropped to  17%

April 30, 2022 :              dropped to  14%

May 26, 2022  :             dropped to  11 %

Today June 15, 2022  :                      11%

 

 

The Western Media are of course do own  Deliberation and  INTENTIONALLY   NOT reporting about this set of data nowadays. 

But the Western Media were all too keen reporting on 20% Russia interest rate ..... Blah Blah Blah    months ago.   

 

 

Strict regulation of ruble trade and increases in commodity prices have helped Russia.  However sanctions are beginning to bite.  Are you interested in the latest model Lada?

 

"... the company’s affordable four-door passenger car Lada Granta, will no longer feature air bags, anti-lock braking systems, electronic stability control or emergency retraction locks on seat belts. It also fails to fulfill the 21st century emission standards adopted by many of Russia’s neighbors."   https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/sanctions-force-russia-produce-popular-car-safety-features-even-kremli-rcna32863

[candide]

5 hours ago, sscc said:

Note the facts and data below and you can self-answer own question. 

The war started on Feb 24, 2022 

 

US$  Vs   RUB Rubles 

Jan 2022   ...                      1 : 75 

Early March 2022           1  : 136  

April 30, 2022                    1 : 73 

Today  June 15, 2022        1 : 59    

 

Euro  Vs  RUB Rubles 

Jan 2022                           1 :  86

Early March 2022            1 :  150

April 30, 2022                   1  : 77 

Today  June 15, 2022       1 :  62

 

Russia interest rate 

Before the war  :                               9%

Feb 28, 2022      :          raised to     20%

April 8, 2022  :              dropped to  17%

April 30, 2022 :              dropped to  14%

May 26, 2022  :             dropped to  11 %

Today June 15, 2022  :                      11%

 

 

The Western Media are of course do own  Deliberation and  INTENTIONALLY   NOT reporting about this set of data nowadays. 

But the Western Media were all too keen reporting on 20% Russia interest rate ..... Blah Blah Blah    months ago.   

 

 

It's not true that western media do not report about it. I have seen several articles explaining how increased energy prices were helping Russia's economy.

[Bkk Brian]

6 hours ago, sscc said:

 

The Western Media are of course do own  Deliberation and  INTENTIONALLY   NOT reporting about this set of data nowadays. 

But the Western Media were all too keen reporting on 20% Russia interest rate ..... Blah Blah Blah    months ago.   

 

 

Well Arnie may not break it down in stats but he certainly is sending a strong message on western media. This from yesterday

 

[billd766]

On 6/14/2022 at 2:20 PM, GrandPapillon said:

but that's not going to happen, so all for nothing at the end. Zelensky will eventually surrender and go for peace with Putin, under a round of applause with EU leaders

How do you KNOW that is not going to happen, or is that just your opinion.

 

IMHO I don't think that the Russians will win, but that is only my opinion.

 

The Ukrainians are a lot stronger than France for example. They have been under the Russian yoke before and didn't like it then. They are fighting for their families, for their country and for their lives.

 

The Russians are fighting because they are told to fight and they have been misled but the amount of BS propaganda that they have been fed over the years.

[TacoKhun]

5 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Well Arnie may not break it down in stats but he certainly is sending a strong message on western media. This from yesterday

 

While Europe is still buying, Ukraine is still doing the transit of Russian gas. Honestly, I'm mind blown, Ukraine transit gas so Russia gets more money to finance their efforts in killing more Ukrainians, this is like the worst case of self harm if I ever seen one. What is the reason Ukraine still allows Russia to earn billions on selling gas to Europe, should not it be like top priority for any country to cut supply off to the enemy, what is happening?

Edited June 15, 2022 by TacoKhun

[Kinnock]

On 6/11/2022 at 11:04 AM, expat_4_life said:

Ukraine should have considered all this before hostilities broke out - it's not like they didn't have 8 long years, since 2014, to figure it all out.

 

Hostilities likely could have been avoided if Ukraine had fulfilled their commitments under the Minsk 2 agreement.  Oh, and what were France and Germany, the EU guarantors to the agreement, doing since it was signed in 2014?

 

It all a dangerous mess now.  While Russia is the invader, Ukraine and the western powers also deserve a fair share of the blame for allowing escalation to an armed conflict, which the West is now prolonging by arming Ukraine.

 

Hopefully a diplomatic settlement can be reached, sooner rather than later.

There's also the 'Afghanistan effect' ..... and I mean Afghanistan during the Russian invasion.

 

Supply Ukraine with just enough weapons to grind down the Russian armed forces and cost Russia a fortune, crippling their economy and demoralising the army.

 

Like fighting WW3 in a bottle.

 

High risk strategy, tough on the Ukrainian people, but seems to be working.

 

[Scott]

A post with unsubstantiated claims has been removed along with replies.  

[superal]

14 hours ago, billd766 said:

How do you KNOW that is not going to happen, or is that just your opinion.

 

IMHO I don't think that the Russians will win, but that is only my opinion.

 

The Ukrainians are a lot stronger than France for example. They have been under the Russian yoke before and didn't like it then. They are fighting for their families, for their country and for their lives.

 

The Russians are fighting because they are told to fight and they have been misled but the amount of BS propaganda that they have been fed over the years.

As it stands the Russians are and will flatten Ukraine . Ukraine is under constant bombardment night and day from tanks and missiles . There is some close combat fighting . Ukraine is losing up to 200 brave soldiers a day which it cannot afford to lose from an already small army in comparison to the much larger Russian army . There can be no turning back for either nation with Putin committed to destroy Ukraine and Zelenskyy  wanting revenge for the murder of innocent children , that no war crime court could bring retribution or satisfaction . I cannot understand why Ukraine has not been backed up by other countries forces . Both U.S.A. & the UK are supplying arms to Ukaine and doing it quite openly and must be seen to be in bed with the Ukraine and guilty by association . Putins actions are causing devastation to the world with 30% of wheat coming from Russia and Ukraine combined and then of course the oi;l and gas that is controlled by Russia . The previously mentioned are enough reasons to join up with Ukraine and then possibly Russia could be defeated within 1 month  and its oil and gas supplies put in the hands of western countries and stock piles of wheat released to starving African countries .  There are famines happening right now and there could well be a mass emigration to European countries  

[gearbox]

59 minutes ago, superal said:

As it stands the Russians are and will flatten Ukraine . Ukraine is under constant bombardment night and day from tanks and missiles . There is some close combat fighting . Ukraine is losing up to 200 brave soldiers a day which it cannot afford to lose from an already small army in comparison to the much larger Russian army . There can be no turning back for either nation with Putin committed to destroy Ukraine and Zelenskyy  wanting revenge for the murder of innocent children , that no war crime court could bring retribution or satisfaction . I cannot understand why Ukraine has not been backed up by other countries forces . Both U.S.A. & the UK are supplying arms to Ukaine and doing it quite openly and must be seen to be in bed with the Ukraine and guilty by association . Putins actions are causing devastation to the world with 30% of wheat coming from Russia and Ukraine combined and then of course the oi;l and gas that is controlled by Russia . The previously mentioned are enough reasons to join up with Ukraine and then possibly Russia could be defeated within 1 month  and its oil and gas supplies put in the hands of western countries and stock piles of wheat released to starving African countries .  There are famines happening right now and there could well be a mass emigration to European countries  

Direct conflict with Russia can trigger nuclear war and mutually assured destruction...

 

https://truthout.org/articles/chomsky-we-must-insist-that-nuclear-warfare-is-an-unthinkable-policy/

 

 

[JimmyJ]

superal - "Putins actions are causing devastation to the world with 30% of wheat coming from Russia and Ukraine combined and then of course the oi;l and gas that is controlled by Russia ."

 

USA sanctions on Russia are causing this.

 

 

Edited June 16, 2022 by JimmyJ

[heybruce]

2 hours ago, JimmyJ said:

superal - "Putins actions are causing devastation to the world with 30% of wheat coming from Russia and Ukraine combined and then of course the oi;l and gas that is controlled by Russia ."

 

USA sanctions on Russia are causing this.

 

 

Sanctions are not what is keeping Ukraine's wheat from being shipped out by sea, and sanctions are not keeping other countries from buying Russia's wheat.

[sscc]

The war started on Feb 24, 2022. 

It has been exactly four months into this war and an update on the exchange rate and interest rate is as follows 

 

US$  Vs   RUB Rubles 

Jan 2022                             1 : 75 

Early March 2022              1  : 136  

April 30, 2022                       1 : 73 

June 15, 2022                       1 : 59

Today  June 24, 2022          1 : 55   

 

Euro  Vs  RUB Rubles 

Jan 2022                             1 :  86

Early March 2022              1 :  150

April 30, 2022                      1  : 77 

June 15, 2022                      1 :  62

Today  June 24, 2022         1 :  58

 

 

Russia interest  rate 

Before the war  :                                9.5%

Feb 28, 2022      :          raised to      20%

April 8, 2022  :              dropped to   17%

April 30, 2022 :              dropped to   14%

May 26, 2022  :             dropped to   11 %

June 10, 2022  :            dropped to    9.5%

Today June 24, 2022                         9.5%

 

There had been up and down, however the trend was not going in the way USA Biden projected and predicted in public months ago.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[placeholder]

1 hour ago, sscc said:

The war started on Feb 24, 2022. 

It has been exactly four months into this war and an update on the exchange rate and interest rate is as follows 

 

US$  Vs   RUB Rubles 

Jan 2022                             1 : 75 

Early March 2022              1  : 136  

April 30, 2022                       1 : 73 

June 15, 2022                       1 : 59

Today  June 24, 2022          1 : 55   

 

Euro  Vs  RUB Rubles 

Jan 2022                             1 :  86

Early March 2022              1 :  150

April 30, 2022                      1  : 77 

June 15, 2022                      1 :  62

Today  June 24, 2022         1 :  58

 

 

Russia interest  rate 

Before the war  :                                9.5%

Feb 28, 2022      :          raised to      20%

April 8, 2022  :              dropped to   17%

April 30, 2022 :              dropped to   14%

May 26, 2022  :             dropped to   11 %

June 10, 2022  :            dropped to    9.5%

Today June 24, 2022                         9.5%

 

There had been up and down, however the trend was not going in the way USA Biden projected and predicted in public months ago.  

Do you think that a rising ruble is indicative of a healthy Russian economy? Do you understand that foreign exchange rates by themselves tell almost nothing about the state of a nation's economy?

 

[heybruce]

15 hours ago, sscc said:

The war started on Feb 24, 2022. 

It has been exactly four months into this war and an update on the exchange rate and interest rate is as follows 

 

US$  Vs   RUB Rubles 

Jan 2022                             1 : 75 

Early March 2022              1  : 136  

April 30, 2022                       1 : 73 

June 15, 2022                       1 : 59

Today  June 24, 2022          1 : 55   

 

Euro  Vs  RUB Rubles 

Jan 2022                             1 :  86

Early March 2022              1 :  150

April 30, 2022                      1  : 77 

June 15, 2022                      1 :  62

Today  June 24, 2022         1 :  58

 

 

Russia interest  rate 

Before the war  :                                9.5%

Feb 28, 2022      :          raised to      20%

April 8, 2022  :              dropped to   17%

April 30, 2022 :              dropped to   14%

May 26, 2022  :             dropped to   11 %

June 10, 2022  :            dropped to    9.5%

Today June 24, 2022                         9.5%

 

There had been up and down, however the trend was not going in the way USA Biden projected and predicted in public months ago.  

 

If sanctions are so good for the ruble and Russian economy, why is Russia so eager to have them lifted?

[sscc]

 

CNN reported  on June 26, 2022

 

“  Europe and the US’ plan to file pain on Putin hasn’t worked. “

“ The West wants to go further on Russian oil.  Inflation is making that difficult. ”    

“ Russia keeps cashing in. ”   

 

 

I focus on data, facts and reality only and not bother with off-focus, irrelevant subject.  People perpetually choose denial and believe in whatever,  up to them.  

 

[superal]

There have been hints that the UK army may join with Ukraine troops . Arnold Schwarzenegger in the previous video was right . We have blood on our hands . Watching the murder of innocent civilians every day , watching the flattening of Ukraine every day because of non stop bombing . Putin threatens the nuclear bomb if there is any interference from other nations . He has to be stopped and challenged or he could invade Finland or another country and again use the same threat . Time to call Putin's bluff. 

[JimmyJ]

8 hours ago, superal said:

There have been hints that the UK army may join with Ukraine troops . Arnold Schwarzenegger in the previous video was right . We have blood on our hands . Watching the murder of innocent civilians every day , watching the flattening of Ukraine every day because of non stop bombing . Putin threatens the nuclear bomb if there is any interference from other nations . He has to be stopped and challenged or he could invade Finland or another country and again use the same threat . Time to call Putin's bluff. 

Yes, let's do everything possible to start WWIII, from which there is no coming back.

Edited June 27, 2022 by JimmyJ

[superal]

9 hours ago, JimmyJ said:

Yes, let's do everything possible to start WWIII, from which there is no coming back.

                 So what do you propose ? do as your told by Putin or if not he will hit you with a nuclear bomb ( already stated that ) . 

I predicted that there would have to be an action from either NATO or the UK . The UK had already made talk of joining the Ukraine . Now we hear that NATO is increasing its presence on the eastern flank from 40,000 troops to 300,000 and also sending in battle ships to eastern Europe to a brigade level . If this move does not scare Putin , then nothing will

[JimmyJ]

"Still can't believe there are grown adults in 2022 who think the US is pouring weapons into a foreign nation because it wants to protect democracy from an evil tyrant who launched a completely unprovoked invasion for no other reason than because he is evil and hates freedom."

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[Bkk Brian]

16 minutes ago, JimmyJ said:

"Still can't believe there are grown adults in 2022 who think the US is pouring weapons into a foreign nation because it wants to protect democracy from an evil tyrant who launched a completely unprovoked invasion for no other reason than because he is evil and hates freedom."

- Caitlin Johnstone

 

"All my work is free to view, free to republish, free to use, free to alter, on no conditions whatsoever; even my books are comprised entirely of stuff that’s free to view online."

- Caitlin Johnstone

From Caitlin Johnson an editor from R.T. news Russian propoganda 

 

Lets take a look at how Russia Today hides content: This is a post Caitlin Johnstone, she pushes large amounts of Russian propaganda across Twitter. But she is actually an OP Ed columnist for Russia Today. None of this is disclosed on the account.

Edited June 28, 2022 by Bkk Brian

[candide]

51 minutes ago, JimmyJ said:

"Still can't believe there are grown adults in 2022 who think the US is pouring weapons into a foreign nation because it wants to protect democracy from an evil tyrant who launched a completely unprovoked invasion for no other reason than because he is evil and hates freedom."

- Caitlin Johnstone

 

"All my work is free to view, free to republish, free to use, free to alter, on no conditions whatsoever; even my books are comprised entirely of stuff that’s free to view online."

- Caitlin Johnstone

Who cares about what Caitlin Johnstone writes?

[JimmyJ]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

From Caitlin Johnson an editor from R.T. news Russian propoganda 

 

Lets take a look at how Russia Today hides content: This is a post Caitlin Johnstone, she pushes large amounts of Russian propaganda across Twitter. But she is actually an OP Ed columnist for Russia Today. None of this is disclosed on the account.

This is called an "Ad Hominem" attack - Attacking the Messenger and not the Message.

 

[It is irrelevant, and a diversion (as intended) but if you had any interest in the Truth you would have scrolled down the thread as I did and found it].

Edited June 28, 2022 by JimmyJ