scorecard Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said: Tulsi Gabbard by a landslide I just did a search, just wondering why she suddenly dropped the dems and joined the GOP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyinBangrak Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 (edited) On 6/16/2022 at 3:44 AM, bendejo said: I recall one evening after watching a debate for 2019-2020 Dem primaries feeling down in the dumps because I didn't like any of them. I think Harris doesn't have what it takes, I definitely soured on her after the Kavanaugh hearings. The Dems need the Black vote. Harris is one giant cringe. Words fail to describe how useless she is. But you shouldn't worry about the Black vote. I believe it is acknowleged Biden has 100% of the Black vote. He even said if Black voters don't know it is correct to vote for Biden they are not real Blacks. Joe Biden "Well I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black." https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/22/politics/biden-charlamagne-tha-god-you-aint-black/index.html From polls i saw this week it is the Latin vote Biden needs, he is not popular with people from communist and socialist nations. Funny that.... Edited June 17, 2022 by SunnyinBangrak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nauseus Posted June 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2022 On 6/15/2022 at 9:19 PM, Jingthing said: The problem is that he needs to run against Trump (who hopefully will be behind bars) to have a decent chance against the republican. I can't see him beating DeSantis at least based on the current political environment. That could change. I doubt that he will be running against Trump somehow. But if Biden does run, he won't beat anyone. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nauseus Posted June 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2022 18 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said: Harris is one giant cringe. Words fail to describe how useless she is. But you shouldn't worry about the Black vote. I believe it is acknowleged Biden has 100% of the Black vote. He even said if Black voters don't know it is correct to vote for Biden they are not real Blacks. Joe Biden "Well I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black." https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/22/politics/biden-charlamagne-tha-god-you-aint-black/index.html From polls i saw this week it is the Latin vote Biden needs, he is not popular with people from communist and socialist nations. Funny that.... He doesn't seem to be too popular with the Latinos now, either. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 45 minutes ago, scorecard said: I just did a search, just wondering why she suddenly dropped the dems and joined the GOP? She is still officially a Democrat but I wouldn't be surprised if she jumped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazes Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 On 6/15/2022 at 7:34 AM, Fat is a type of crazy said: My concern, is that though Pete and Amy are good candidates, they could struggle. A brief google search shows findings that blacks and latinos are a bit less likely to be accepting of gays and that seemed to be the case in 2020 where Pete did poorly. Maybe things are changing and he’ll be better known next time. If Amy was the candidate I could see her getting the Hillary treatment. She can come across as tough in a way that will appeal to some but may turn off others. She should be made more high profile now so people can get to know her. That’s why Joe did so well. Nice guy, generic, and known to Americans. This cosy analysis is really quite breathtaking in its naive assumption that ANY of the people mentioned above are worthy of the trust of the American people, especially the Clinton woman, whose contempt for the American people [the undesirables] is well documented. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeymike100 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 29 minutes ago, nauseus said: He doesn't seem to be too popular with the Latinos now, either. He doesn't seem too popular with anyone, have you seen his approval ratings? LOL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat is a type of crazy Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, blazes said: This cosy analysis is really quite breathtaking in its naive assumption that ANY of the people mentioned above are worthy of the trust of the American people, especially the Clinton woman, whose contempt for the American people [the undesirables] is well documented. I am not American but they are both smart and good communicators and appear to have some substance. If you beg to differ that’s no problem. You might frame it though in terms of policies these two have personally espoused that you think make a case for their lack of critical thinking or trustworthiness. I think Hillary had huge potential to be an an excellent president. I think there is an argument that a subset of Trump supporters were at that time somewhat undesirable if only in the way they played up to Trump and his approach to policy and his approach to a range of individuals including her. You may have liked all that and seen it as refreshing. I found it appalling. Didn’t help her no doubt. She made a few errors on the way, possibly played it too safe, and due to a range of factors you got your guy. Not sure who on the Republican side you might see as electable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 20 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said: He doesn't seem too popular with anyone, have you seen his approval ratings? LOL Well, yes. That was partly why I said that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 There are so many other possibilities .https://www.sportsbookreview.com/picks/politics/2024-us-presidential-betting-joe-biden-odds-for-second-term-improve/195112/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazes Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 13 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said: I am not American but they are both smart and good communicators and appear to have some substance. If you beg to differ that’s no problem. You might frame it though in terms of policies these two have personally espoused that you think make a case for their lack of critical thinking or trustworthiness. I think Hillary had huge potential to be an an excellent president. I think there is an argument that a subset of Trump supporters were at that time somewhat undesirable if only in the way they played up to Trump and his approach to policy and his approach to a range of individuals including her. You may have liked all that and seen it as refreshing. I found it appalling. Didn’t help her no doubt. She made a few errors on the way, possibly played it too safe, and due to a range of factors you got your guy. Not sure who on the Republican side you might see as electable. I never said or intimated that I was a Trumpist. I happen to believe that it matters very little who becomes (or became) the POTUS, because that person does not actually run the show (as Eisenhower warned us in 1960, regarding the military/industrial complex). As you can see at present, the likes of Raytheon and other armament manufacturers are profiting hugely from the weapons that the present administration are lobbing over to Ukraine at considerable cost to the American taxpayer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeymike100 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 10 minutes ago, nauseus said: Well, yes. That was partly why I said that. Then we agree!???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat is a type of crazy Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, blazes said: I never said or intimated that I was a Trumpist. I happen to believe that it matters very little who becomes (or became) the POTUS, because that person does not actually run the show (as Eisenhower warned us in 1960, regarding the military/industrial complex). As you can see at present, the likes of Raytheon and other armament manufacturers are profiting hugely from the weapons that the present administration are lobbing over to Ukraine at considerable cost to the American taxpayer. I think it was good to support Ukraine, but I agree that none of the candidates on either side are excellent in terms of shaking things up to make America less controlled by the will of corporations, except maybe Bernie. Though he can go a bit too impractical sometimes in my opinion. Need someone new. Edited June 17, 2022 by Fat is a type of crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaBob Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 On 6/17/2022 at 1:26 AM, mikeymike100 said: He doesn't seem too popular with anyone, have you seen his approval ratings? LOL Should Biden Run in 2024? Democratic Whispers of ‘No’ Start to Rise. In interviews, dozens of frustrated Democratic officials, members of Congress and voters expressed doubts about the president’s ability to rescue his reeling party and take the fight to Republicans. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/11/us/politics/biden-2024-election-democrats.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 (edited) Biden will not run in 2024 nor will Trump. I only pray the dems run Harris with perhaps Newsom as VP. And when she wins she can bring in Willie Brown as her Chief of Staff! Edited June 19, 2022 by Yellowtail clarity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 On 6/14/2022 at 4:54 PM, Jingthing said: He can't reverse his age. I think the best hope for Biden IF he runs again is if his opponent is Trump. To significant numbers of Americans another Trump term would signal the USA becoming full on fascist. So the motivating power of anyone but Trump would be strong Do you know what fascism means? Trump is a capitalist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 17 minutes ago, Sparktrader said: Do you know what fascism means? Trump is a capitalist. More like the most toxic corrupt grifter in world history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 Just now, Jingthing said: More like the most toxic corrupt grifter in world history. I dont understand the hate for Trump. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sparktrader said: I dont understand the hate for Trump. He staged a coup attempt. He tried to disenfranchise 78 million voters and install himself as an authoritarian dictator. I don't understand not understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthedarkside Posted June 19, 2022 Author Share Posted June 19, 2022 OK... This thread is NOT about Donald Trump, so it's time to bring that debate to a close here.... The topic of the thread is: Biden’s age would be ‘major issue’ if he runs again, former Obama adviser says Stay on topic, or your posts will be removed and potentially more if you persist... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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