Policeman dies after car is pierced by concrete posts on truck - cops doubt driver's story

[webfact]

 

Daily News Thai Caption: Senior cop tragically killed

 

Daily News reported on a tragic accident that killed a senior Phangnga highway policemen who was travelling in a car driven by his wife in Surat Thani.

 

The Toyota Vios had been skewered by four concrete posts on the back of a six wheel truck that was carrying six posts. 

 

The posts went right through the windshield to the back hitting the passenger - Sen Sgt Maj Worachai Nakkhwan, 52, in the forehead. The deceased hailed from Nakhon Sri Thammarat.

 

Driving the car was the victim's wife 41 year old Parimat Jongaksorn who suffered head and chest pains. 

 

Picture: Daily News

 

Both the victims were taken to Ban Na Doem hospital after the accident yesterday on Route 44 heading towards Krabi province.

 

The driver of the truck, Suriya said that he heard a loud noise and pulled over straight away.

 

Ban Na Doem said this was at odds with CCTV evidence that showed the truck being driven 200 meters with the other vehicle stuck on the back. 

 

The police plan to talk to the wife again to find out what actually happened. 

 

 

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[keith101]

It would take approx 200 metres to stop with the weight of concrete on the back as well as the car maybe still in gear and pushing .

[KhunLA]

6 minutes ago, keith101 said:

It would take approx 200 metres to stop with the weight of concrete on the back as well as the car maybe still in gear and pushing .

Not sure about that, as 200m is pretty far, and he'd have to be traveling fairly fast to need that much road to stop loaded down or not.   Which begs to ask, how fast was the victim's vehicle traveling if able to impale itself, that much, at high speed.

 

Awaiting the vid ... 

[worgeordie]

Those posts on the truck are really sticking far out of the rear,

an accident waiting to happen , but why the driver or the passenger

did not see them is really strange, but you do hear of people crashing

into the rear of parked trucks , so you wonder where drivers are looking.

not on the road ahead it seems......

regards Worgeordie

[peter zwart]

44 minutes ago, webfact said:

who was travelling in a car driven by his wife in Surat Thani.

And there it went wrong.

[ThailandRyan]

Another question is, What time did this happen, was it still dark out, early morning? and were the photos taken after the sun rose higher.  

[2long]

"The police plan to talk to the wife again to find out what actually happened. "

So what the wife says is fact is it? Let's not forget she was married to a policeman.

Edited June 18, 2022 by 2long

[Liverpool Lou]

33 minutes ago, keith101 said:

It would take approx 200 metres to stop with the weight of concrete on the back as well as the car maybe still in gear and pushing .

How fast have you been advised that the truck was travelling in order to ascertain the required stopping distance and how far do you think that a Vios could push a truck loaded with concrete posts even if it was trying?!

[Liverpool Lou]

5 minutes ago, 2long said:

"The police plan to talk to the wife again to find out what actually happened. "

So what the wife says is fact is it?

Could be if she corroborates what the CCTV apparently shows.

[swerve]

Very strange and horrific accident.  The car must have hit the back of the truck while going much faster than the truck.  Some terrible driving involved.  RIP.

[JoePai]

44 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

Those posts on the truck are really sticking far out of the rear,

an accident waiting to happen , but why the driver or the passenger

did not see them is really strange, but you do hear of people crashing

into the rear of parked trucks , so you wonder where drivers are looking.

not on the road ahead it seems......

regards Worgeordie

Their iPhones of course

[transam]

Just my guess, the truck is too small to carry the posts flat, they were resting on the raised bit at the back of the cab, they slide down/off, car was a bit close. I can see nothing holding the posts in position, or perhaps it was a piece of string....????

[Denim]

1 hour ago, keith101 said:

It would take approx 200 metres to stop with the weight of concrete on the back as well as the car maybe still in gear and pushing .

If the brakes were worn would have contributed to the long braking distance.

[bbko]

No mention of a red warning flag/towel on the end of the hanging posts?

[Excel]

2 hours ago, bbko said:

No mention of a red warning flag/towel on the end of the hanging posts?

Well they had a red car on the end of the hanging posts instead

[jcmj]

Hopefully they had a car dash cam that will show exactly what happened and isn’t tampered with. 

[BusyB]

4 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Not sure about that, as 200m is pretty far, and he'd have to be traveling fairly fast to need that much road to stop loaded down or not.   Which begs to ask, how fast was the victim's vehicle traveling if able to impale itself, that much, at high speed.

 

Awaiting the vid ... 

Indeed. Those poles don't have red flags at the rear end as a warning about their length (as is customary in better run countries). It helps following drivers judge their length. Coming up fast behind there's no real way otherwise to judge the distance properly - from the same level perspective they can look very short without flags.

Or perhaps the truck pulled out in front of the car, ... who knows?

 

[richard_smith237]

3 hours ago, bbko said:

No mention of a red warning flag/towel on the end of the hanging posts?

Would it have made any difference to someone not looking where they are going and driving straight into the back of a loaded truck ????

[richard_smith237]

3 hours ago, transam said:

Just my guess, the truck is too small to carry the posts flat, they were resting on the raised bit at the back of the cab, they slide down/off, car was a bit close. I can see nothing holding the posts in position, or perhaps it was a piece of string....????

Looks to me as though the concrete posts were sticking out the back of the truck and the diver simply drove into the truck at a fair lick of speed while the truck was going fairly slowly....

 

I’m surprised the now fashionable ‘lap-nai’ was not mentioned.... 

[transam]

5 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Looks to me as though the concrete posts were sticking out the back of the truck and the diver simply drove into the truck at a fair lick of speed while the truck was going fairly slowly....

 

I’m surprised the now fashionable ‘lap-nai’ was not mentioned.... 

Looking at the length and weight of the posts, if they were laid flat, the weight out the back would have had the truck doing a wheely.....????

[richard_smith237]

26 minutes ago, transam said:

Looking at the length and weight of the posts, if they were laid flat, the weight out the back would have had the truck doing a wheely.....????

I’m not so sure... Engine at the front of the truck like a counter weight. 

 

If less than half of the concrete poles sticking out of the truck they are balanced. 

 

Additionally, if the poles were resting on the roof end of the flatbed the poles at the rear end would be lower down... (closer to car bumper level).

It seems the poles were at car windscreen height, lay flat as they pierced both front and rear windscreens. 

 

Obviously we can’t be sure... but looking at the photo’s thats what I interpret as having happened. 

 

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Regardless of how the load was carried... its seems the dear old wife drove straight into the back of the truck.

 

 

[Dont confuse me]

You're all overlooking the obvious!

With the price of petrol, she was hitching a lift !

[smedly]

5 hours ago, worgeordie said:

Those posts on the truck are really sticking far out of the rear,

an accident waiting to happen , but why the driver or the passenger

did not see them is really strange, but you do hear of people crashing

into the rear of parked trucks , so you wonder where drivers are looking.

not on the road ahead it seems......

regards Worgeordie

agree, posts that long should be in a truck were they actually fit

 

 

RIP

[smedly]

4 hours ago, bbko said:

No mention of a red warning flag/towel on the end of the hanging posts?

you having a laugh

[taotoo]

1 hour ago, BusyB said:

Indeed. Those poles don't have red flags at the rear end as a warning about their length (as is customary in better run countries).

 

In better run countries they don't let you put whatever you want on the back of whatever vehicle you want. They also know that a red flag probably won't achieve much.

[RichardColeman]

Like to see the cctv of the car and how far it was from the lorry. If it was travelling like 5 yards behind at 140 kmh then it was just asking for trouble

[rwill]

If they have video evidence of what happened why do they need to talk to the wife to find out what really happened?

 

Anyway looking at the photo those cement poles are very long.  They were probably propped up on the front of the truck bed over the cab and strapped down.  They probably got loose and slid off the back end.  I see lots of loads here strapped like that where the load is guaranteed to slide out the back if it comes loose.

[BangkokReady]

The only real question is how did the posts end up in the car?  Presumably the car impacted with the truck and not the other way round.

 

So either the truck pulled out and the car was going so fast that it went straight into the back and hit it head on, or the car slammed into the back of the truck probably not seeing the posts (or perhaps not seeing the truck at all).

 

The car certainly wouldn't be travelling at a safe distance from the truck to make contact with the posts.

[bbko]

8 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Would it have made any difference to someone not looking where they are going and driving straight into the back of a loaded truck ????

Obviously not, but if someone was driving & looking forward, having a red warning flag would make a huge difference as opposed to looking at a post without one, yes ????

[hotchilli]

19 hours ago, webfact said:

The driver of the truck, Suriya said that he heard a loud noise and pulled over straight away.

I wonder how fast she was driving to get the poles right through and out the back of the car...

Obviously not paying much attention to what was in front of her.