Pib Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, Pink Mist said: Down now, and possibly through the weekend as its a holiday from here on out until Monday. Yea....it could work out that way. The LTR public webpage is up but when clicking the login icon I also get above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, CobyW said: Does anyone know when the respective agencies meet to review/change the LTR requirements? I have applied for the WFTP LTR visa but the only requirement i dont meet is the 150M company revenue. My company only meets 110M but has also received significant capital investments which i have explained but doesnt appear is acceptable. Struggling to find another way around it considering they don't appear flexible on this so thinking im going to just have to wait it out ???? I wouldn't have a clue if they have regular/scheduled meetings to discuss possible changes, but the only official, written change that has occurred since the programs kick-off/grand opening 1 Sep 2022 was the 16 March 2023 (2566 Thai year) BoI official announcement regarding the expansion of industries allowed for the LTR Highly Skilled Professional Visa category....this change was approved by the Thai Cabinet....see BoI LTR weblink at bottom. Seems like that would have been a good time to also change the $150M company revenue over 3 years requirement for a private company in the LTR Work From Thailand Visa category if the BoI was inclined to do so. Now since the LTR kick-off there have been "minor" changes/tweaks/added flexibility/etc., in what type of income is acceptable for various visa types, health insurance requirement, etc., but as mentioned these were minor changes/tweaks which didn't require blessing by the Cabinet. https://ltr.boi.go.th/documents/Announcement_of_the_Office_of_the_Board_of_Investment_No_Por_6_2566 (EN).pdf Edited April 12, 2023 by Pib 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackGats Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Regarding the LTR, could somebody tell me if the "endorsement letter" (or was it "letter of endorsement"?) comes in electronic form or is sent to the applicant postel address by snail-mail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted April 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2023 1 hour ago, JackGats said: Regarding the LTR, could somebody tell me if the "endorsement letter" (or was it "letter of endorsement"?) comes in electronic form or is sent to the applicant postel address by snail-mail? It can be downloaded from the site after you log in, there should be a tab to click if you are on screen 7 from within Thailand. They should also have sent you an approval e-mail, so check your folders such as Spam to insure it did not make it's way there, depending on your e-mail servicer. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cocon Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 I have a question, i want to apply for the LTRWP (Wealthy Pensioner) i have have enough Rental income so can i show my bank statements to prove this or do they want to see all my rental contracts (about 8 contracts/80 pages) because i am from the Netherlands and when i have to translate all it cost me more then this visa? Or maybe they accept a income declaration from the Consulate if they can make? thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackGats Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Seems the LTR website is of the same ilk as the then Thailand Pass website. Do I stand a chance when I need to upload, among other thinks, 12 statements of accounts + their Thai translations? That's 24 PDF files! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pib Posted April 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2023 32 minutes ago, JackGats said: Seems the LTR website is of the same ilk as the then Thailand Pass website. Do I stand a chance when I need to upload, among other thinks, 12 statements of accounts + their Thai translations? That's 24 PDF files! Can't speak to why BoI shutdown the "login" capability since the beginning of Songkran....hopefully a person will be able to login staring Monday/17 Apr when people come back to work. Regarding the "many" PDF files, I would recommend your "stack/merge" like type PDF files. By stack/merge I mean the PDF files are chained together into one PDF file. That's what I did (and many others did) when submitting my docs. If you have scanner program it probably has a stack/merge menu selection....it should be super easy to use....just highlight the PDF file/doc names you want to stack and then click stack to create one PDF file....then upload that one PDF file to the LTR site. If you don't have a program on your computer that has a stack/merge function there is other ways to do like described in below web article. https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/how-to-combine-pdf-files 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackGats Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Pib said: Can't speak to why BoI shutdown the "login" capability since the beginning of Songkran....hopefully a person will be able to login staring Monday/17 Apr when people come back to work. Regarding the "many" PDF files, I would recommend your "stack/merge" like type PDF files. By stack/merge I mean the PDF files are chained together into one PDF file. ... Will not merging 12 PDF files create a document 12 times bigger? It remains to be seen if that turns out easier "swallow" for the LTR website. If there's a bandwith problem it might prove more difficult and the merged file may take for ever to upload. Still, thanks for the tip. P.S. I see it is also possible to use online "PDF compressors" to purge the files of some of their fat. Makes a file half as big. Edited April 16, 2023 by JackGats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 4 hours ago, Cocon said: I have a question, i want to apply for the LTRWP (Wealthy Pensioner) i have have enough Rental income so can i show my bank statements to prove this or do they want to see all my rental contracts (about 8 contracts/80 pages) because i am from the Netherlands and when i have to translate all it cost me more then this visa? Or maybe they accept a income declaration from the Consulate if they can make? thanks in advance Hopefully some LTR pensioner approved applicant who used the multiple rental passive income method to gain LTR approval like you want to use will answer (I used the pension income route), but I would "not" think a rental contract, whether long or short and regardless of language, would serve as the primarily doc(s) to prove rental income since just showing a rental contract does not prove rental income is actually being paid/coming in especially if some renters have stopped paying rental and you are involved in a long legal process in trying to evict the renters and collect back payment. I would think BoI would want to see cash flow documentation like proof of the actual payment going into your bank acct and/or declaration of the rental income on your tax return. Now, I can see where the BoI "might" want also want to see key portions of the rental contracts like maybe the first few pages and maybe signature page as "secondary/further proof" type documentation that the cash flow payments/tax return rental income is truly passive rental income. Personally, I would "not" submit any rental contracts unless BoI asks for them; instead, submit documents showing the real world rental cash payments to you. Or maybe you have a real estate management firm collecting the monthly payments and that firm can provide documentation of cash flow/rental payment, etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cocon Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Pib said: Hopefully some LTR pensioner approved applicant who used the multiple rental passive income method to gain LTR approval like you want to use will answer (I used the pension income route), but I would "not" think a rental contract, whether long or short and regardless of language, would serve as the primarily doc(s) to prove rental income since just showing a rental contract does not prove rental income is actually being paid/coming in especially if some renters have stopped paying rental and you are involved in a long legal process in trying to evict the renters and collect back payment. I would think BoI would want to see cash flow documentation like proof of the actual payment going into your bank acct and/or declaration of the rental income on your tax return. Now, I can see where the BoI "might" want also want to see key portions of the rental contracts like maybe the first few pages and maybe signature page as "secondary/further proof" type documentation that the cash flow payments/tax return rental income is truly passive rental income. Personally, I would "not" submit any rental contracts unless BoI asks for them; instead, submit documents showing the real world rental cash payments to you. Or maybe you have a real estate management firm collecting the monthly payments and that firm can provide documentation of cash flow/rental payment, etc. Thanks Pib I will ask the Boi first what they want, I can’t show any Tax paper because I live in Thailand for 15 years and I am Tax Resident in Thailand so I don’t have to pay Tax In the Netherlands over my rental income. I have a Real Estate Management company who take care everything for me so maybe they can provide me the info what the Boi want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, Cocon said: Thanks Pib I will ask the Boi first what they want, I can’t show any Tax paper because I live in Thailand for 15 years and I am Tax Resident in Thailand so I don’t have to pay Tax In the Netherlands over my rental income. I have a Real Estate Management company who take care everything for me so maybe they can provide me the info what the Boi want? Now don't be surprised if BoI asks you submit your latest tax return from whatever country you are a tax resident of....Netherlands, Thailand, etc. As mentioned earlier I went the Pension income route, submitted pension certificate/letters from the U.S. govt pension paying agencies, but the BoI around a month into my application asked for my U.S. tax return in an Additional Docs Request maybe for secondary proof of the pensions payments, maybe to give them a warm fuzzy I was a law-abiding, tax paying person, etc. So, if you don't have any tax return from any country just be prepared to explain why not if, repeat, if the BoI asks for your tax return. Although submitting a tax return was previously an "optional" document to submit" in LTR checklists I just noticed on the LTR website" it seems as of 16 March 2023 LTR Wealthy Pensioner Checklist the BoI has included a tax return as an example of mandatory proof of income. Yea, BoI has updated/tweaked the wording of the Mandatory Docs Worksheets....I just noticed it in preparing this post. For example in the updated Pensioner and Work from Thailand categories the worksheets are "more wordy/detailed" in trying to explain what type of docs are needed. I don't think there is really in major changes, but instead the BoI is just trying to "explain better/give more examples" of acceptable proof docs. LTR Pension Req'd Docs Checklist https://ltr.boi.go.th/documents/Required-Documents-for-Qualification-Endorsement-for-Wealthy-pensioner-16-03-66.pdf LTR Work From Thailand Req'd Docs Checklist https://ltr.boi.go.th/documents/Required-Documents-for-Qualification-Endorsement-for-Work-from-Thailand-16-03-66.pdf Good luck in your application. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Yes, the LTR webpage info is changing/being updated like the info in the Application Process, "Required Documents" area. The Required Docs Checklists are now dated 16 March 2023 although I'm pretty sure although dated 16 March they have only been uploaded over the last week or so. The 16 March 2023 Checklists seem to be more detailed, explanatory of the type of acceptable docs....gives examples of docs they are looking for like tax return form number examples (e.g., 1040 tax form if filing a U.S. tax return, etc). And where the tax return used to be in the "optional" category it's now in the mandatory category. Also, for the Wealthy Pensioner the 16 March 2023 checklist seems to say a applicant will need to show "two" years worth of tax returns to prove at least $80K USD in income per year for the last "two" years. But when you look at the BoI 30 June 2022 Formal Announcement of Requirements (still in effect) it only shows a "one" year requirement for Wealthy Pensioner income proof. When I applied and was approved late last year I only needed to provide my latest U.S. tax return....not two years worth of tax returns. Maybe it's just how I'm reading (misunderstanding) the latest pensioner checklist or maybe BoI now wants to see two years of tax returns for pensioners although the official announcement and brochures/briefings did not? See BoI weblinks/partial snapshots below Wealthy Pensioner 16 Mar 2023 Checklist https://ltr.boi.go.th/documents/Required-Documents-for-Qualification-Endorsement-for-Wealthy-pensioner-16-03-66.pdf BoI LTR Requirements Announcement 30 June 2022 https://ltr.boi.go.th/documents/Announcement_of the Office of the Board of Investment No.2-2565 (EN).pdf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudcat Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 I read this as requiring WP applicants to either provide a pension certificate(s) showing $80K - per year. I use my Social Security and Pension Benefit statements from my non-federal government job. OR Provide tax return(s) showing passive income of $80K I would provide a tax transcript as is anonymized through truncating names and all but the last four digits of the Social Security number. A request for two years in the latter case makes some sense as it decreases the likelihood of gaming the requirement. For example the last two-years of 1099Rs included $107K and $105K in RMDs (Required Minimum Withdrawal) and conversions from my Taxable IRA to my Roth IRA - only the RMD touched my hands, but I would be able to claim 'Wealthy Pensioner' status based on my 1099Rs from 2021 and 2022. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 54 minutes ago, mudcat said: I read this as requiring WP applicants to either provide a pension certificate(s) showing $80K - per year. I use my Social Security and Pension Benefit statements from my non-federal government job. OR Provide tax return(s) showing passive income of $80K I would provide a tax transcript as is anonymized through truncating names and all but the last four digits of the Social Security number. A request for two years in the latter case makes some sense as it decreases the likelihood of gaming the requirement. For example the last two-years of 1099Rs included $107K and $105K in RMDs (Required Minimum Withdrawal) and conversions from my Taxable IRA to my Roth IRA - only the RMD touched my hands, but I would be able to claim 'Wealthy Pensioner' status based on my 1099Rs from 2021 and 2022. You could be right but in those cases where an "OR" applied BoI seemed to be clear like regarding medical insurance where they clearly use "OR" to specify the three different options. But in the income area they did not use "OR" which implies to me in the case of a Wealthy Pensioner application they want a tax returns....and when a person is using the pension method they also want pension certificates/letters/docs also. Now whether the BoI absolutely now requires tax returns and pension certificates is something I'm not privy to. I do know when I applied for my pensioner visa late last year I only initially submitted pension certificates/letters....but about a month later I got an additional doc request from BoI asking for my latest tax return which I then provided....then a few weeks later I was approved. And although the checklist now says two years worth of tax returns for Wealthy Pensioner the official document June 2022 BoI announcement signed by the BoI director only requires one year of income proof "at time of application;" no requirements to look back two years....or even one year.....just prove you meet income requirements at time of application for wealthy pensioner. And I can see cases where a pensioner's latest COLA could put them over the top in meeting the income requirement when multiplying the new monthly pension income by 12 to get the new annual amount.....but if having to still using the previous year or two of monthly payments then that income averaging would put them back below the income requirement forcing them to wait another year or two to apply. I don't think that is what BoI wants/intended in case of a pensioner....that is waiting until you have a full year or two of required pension income when current monthly pension certificate/letters now meet the required income level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudcat Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Your snippet calls out the "or" I referred to in the second paragraph. "a pension certificate OR individual income tax return ..." This is not important for most, but others who receive some or all of their pensions tax exempt and thus their tax returns would not reflect all of their retirement income. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 1 hour ago, mudcat said: Your snippet calls out the "or" I referred to in the second paragraph. "a pension certificate OR individual income tax return ..." This is not important for most, but others who receive some or all of their pensions tax exempt and thus their tax returns would not reflect all of their retirement income. Yea....but the first bullet in the income evidence block still calls for a tax return. My gut feeling is sometime around the Nov 2022 time frame BoI changed their internal LTR application requirements to generally require a tax return even when having solid proof from pension certificates/letters...but that requirement is just now showing as mandatory in their published checklist. And I expect any inability to provide a tax return would require a very good reason as to why one could not be provided since folks with LTR visa type income would have an annual income tax return. And I'm sure BoI realizes pension amounts shown on pension certificates/letters will not always show up on a tax return due to some pensions being totally or partially non-taxable/non-reportable on a tax return. That was definitely the case in my LTR application since several of my govt pensions are fully or partially tax reportable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K2938 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 9 hours ago, Pib said: And I expect any inability to provide a tax return would require a very good reason as to why one could not be provided since folks with LTR visa type income would have an annual income tax return. Somebody on fb posted she told the BOI she did not have a tax return since she was not living in any single country long enough to become tax resident and the BOI accepted this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiChakayan Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 On 4/17/2023 at 3:44 PM, Pib said: And I expect any inability to provide a tax return would require a very good reason as to why one could not be provided since folks with LTR visa type income would have an annual income tax return. Don't think this can be pertinent to most applicants who have been living for years in Thailand and aren't considered as resident for tax purposes by their country of origin. I know that for US folks this is somewhat different... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 (edited) Will be interesting to see how serious BoI gets over tax returns especially for those who supposedly don't have any type of tax return due to whatever reason. But I expect BoI is getting smarter as time goes along as to which nationalities and/or in which situations an applicant should have tax returns to backup/support any other income proof they provide. Time will tell. I just looked at each of the LTR categories Required Docs Checklists dtd 16 March 2023 and for the Global Citizen, Work from Thailand, and Highly Skilled Professional checklist categories each has the following statement regarding income proof. That is, provide a tax returns for 2 years. Now the Pensioner category also talks 2 years of tax returns "along with" pension certificate or tax return. To me I'm still not sure if that means just providing pension certificates/letters/docs is good enough or they will also want tax returns. Yes, I do see the "or" in that statement. I do know for me late last year when I applied and was approved for a Pensioner visa I initially just submitted U.S. govt pension certificates/letters/statements proving required pension income but the BoI still came back to me with an additional document request asking for my tax return which I did provide. And the Dependents category did not have any income doc requirements. Hopefully we will see more feedback in this thread from those who recently applied for an LTR visa (say since 1 Jan 2023) and didn't initially provide a tax return. Feedback in terms of the BoI accepted/approved the application without a tax return OR the BoI also requested a tax return(s) before further consideration/processing of the application. Edited April 18, 2023 by Pib 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted April 21, 2023 Share Posted April 21, 2023 Seems to be that the visa.boi.go.th web site is working good today. Had a nice chat with the BOI LTR unit folks as well as the IT Group. Seems they have worked out all of the bugs that were bogging down my profile and application in the system which still had it showing appointment needed, and it now finally shows a status of Complete. Apparently, because I was one of the first ones to have the LTRWP visa issued in country, it never was truly entered into the BOI System as issued due to early bugs. Immigrations system shows it was issued, but in order for the BOI to enter it as logged into there system completely as issued, I had to send them copies of all the paperwork they had issued, this included the official letter and the small sheet which showed the visa information. I also had to send them PDF's of the Bio page of my passport as well as the PDF's of the Visa stamps entered into my PP. They then created a virtual appointment, where they actually scheduled me as if I had gone into the BOI Office today, and they then uploaded all of the documents into the system and cleared me out as far as now being Complete. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HerewardtheWake Posted April 26, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 26, 2023 This is not a reply, but just a brief account of my getting the LTR. Date of Application: March 19 BoI asking further information: 21 April. I had sent in two years of the 1040R, but only the 2022 was kept and the 2021 deleted by the screening agent. Then a request for 1099R which lists only dividends, which is superfluous because the 1040R lists all sources of income. I complied; and a 90-day report, of which I luckily had the last one which I submitted. There is probably a 2000 Baht fine if one can't produce a 90-day. Communication that application has been approved; 23 April. Asked me to set up an appointment I arrived at the One Stop visa place in Chamchuri Square. But it turned out to be lunch time. Had to wait until 13.00. Went in and handed the papers. Staff was courteous. I was asked to produce the last 90-day report and a photograph which had been sent already. But luckily I had both with me. After that the officer walked me to the photographer for another photograph! , and then I had to wait for another 45 minutes after signing the documents, observing the Thai custom of signing every page. Then was taken to the payment counter. Came back to the waiting area. Another 10 minutes, and then escorted to the visa stamp window. All in all it took a bit over two and half hours. No more 90-day reports, multiple entries, and presumably a special line at Suvarnabhumi for LTR visa holders. The worse parts are getting into Bangkok and getting out. 2 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 (edited) HerewardtheWake, Congrats. Total time from application submittal to endorsement/approval was 1 month 4 days.....that's pretty fast considering the long Songkron holidays occurred during that time frame. Heck, a person couldn't even login into their BoI LTR online acct from 13-17 April due to BoI shutting down login capability supposedly "for maintenance" but I expect it was purely a manning issue/all employees on holiday. I'm assuming you got a LTR "Pensioner" visa since the BoI asked for some Form 1099R Pension/Annuity documentation? Congrats again. Edited April 26, 2023 by Pib Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 On 4/3/2023 at 1:14 PM, aublumberg said: FYI for those wondering about opening a bank account on the LTR visa, the BOI website has launched a new section: LTR Visa Thailand - Opening Bank Account In Thailand (boi.go.th) On 4/3/2023 at 2:33 PM, Pib said: Hey, this is good in at least two ways. 1st: this will make opening a bank acct with Bangkok Bank or Kasikorn Bank easier if you have an LTR visa. No need for a letter from your home country embassy, resident certificate, etc., that Thai banks have increasing been asking for....especially Bangkok Bank. And I think it also shows Bangkok Bank and Kasikorn Bank are putting out a welcome mat to LTR visa holders as they know BoI, Immigration, and other govt agencies will have thoroughly vetted LTR visa holders and the higher than average income an LTR visa holder often processes. 2nd: it looks like the BoI is now starting to enhance the BoI LTR web site.....starting off by starting a "Manage LTR Visa" section which I'm sure will expand with other helpful info.......hopefully make it more like BoI SMART website which offers a LOT more visa practical/management info. Above I earlier said, "And I think it also shows Bangkok Bank and Kasikorn Bank are putting out a welcome mat to LTR visa holders as they know BoI, Immigration, and other govt agencies will have thoroughly vetted LTR visa holders and the higher than average income an LTR visa holder often processes." When I was scanning thru the government "Elite Visa" website site I stumbled across an Elite visa FAQ talking about opening a bank account and apparently the Elite Visa folks have a contract with Bangkok Bank and Kasikorn Bank which allows Elite visa members to easily open bank accounts (see snapshot/quote at bottom). I expect the BoI LTR agency just piggy backed on/duplicated the contract to also allow LTR visa holders to also easily open bank accts with Bangkok Bank and Kasikorn bank. https://www.thailandelite.com/faq/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alotoftravel Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 Hi, are we considered foreign residents to avoid below and if so any idea how airlines can determine ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 57 minutes ago, Alotoftravel said: Hi, are we considered foreign residents to avoid below and if so any idea how airlines can determine ? As far as I can see, unless you have a Work Permit or or are on a Diplomatic passport for your country and meet those exceptions being a foreign resident is not what a LTR Visa gives us as we are not considered to be a foreign resident. To be a foreign resident in Thailand you need to have applied for Permanent Residency through the Thai Permanent Residency program attained through the Royal Thai Immigration Commission. https://www.thaiembassy.com/thailand-visa/permanent-residence-thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Alotoftravel said: Hi, are we considered foreign residents to avoid below and if so any idea how airlines can determine ? I expect you would be "if", repeat, if you got the Digital Work Permit with your LTR. Accepting or declining the work permit was an option when applying for the LTR. I expect authorities will be looking for a current/valid work permit stamp in a person's passport and/or however the new digital work permit can be shown to authorities. Like for me when I applied for my LTR Pensioner visa I declined the work permit since I'm retired, didn't want to submit the extra paperwork required, didn't want to pay the extra Bt3K per year for the work permit where if I understood a previous poster (Misty I think it was) a person had to pay Bt15K for the work permit since the LTR visa is issued in 5 year increments. One of main reasons of the date push back to Sep 2023 is because airlines don't want to get involved in trying to figure out which people would not have to pay the fee. Thai govt trying to get the airlines to do the govt's job. Edited April 27, 2023 by Pib Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misty Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 3 hours ago, Pib said: I expect you would be "if", repeat, if you got the Digital Work Permit with your LTR. Accepting or declining the work permit was an option when applying for the LTR. I expect authorities will be looking for a current/valid work permit stamp in a person's passport and/or however the new digital work permit can be shown to authorities. Like for me when I applied for my LTR Pensioner visa I declined the work permit since I'm retired, didn't want to submit the extra paperwork required, didn't want to pay the extra Bt3K per year for the work permit where if I understood a previous poster (Misty I think it was) a person had to pay Bt15K for the work permit since the LTR visa is issued in 5 year increments. One of main reasons of the date push back to Sep 2023 is because airlines don't want to get involved in trying to figure out which people would not have to pay the fee. Thai govt trying to get the airlines to do the govt's job. It will be interesting to see if people who hold the LTR visa have to pay this "tourism fee". I wouldn't have thought so. An LTR visa holder is a foreign resident and is not a tourist. Shouldn't matter whether the LTR visa holder has a digital work permit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunjeff Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 On 4/27/2023 at 10:19 PM, Misty said: It will be interesting to see if people who hold the LTR visa have to pay this "tourism fee". I wouldn't have thought so. An LTR visa holder is a foreign resident and is not a tourist. Shouldn't matter whether the LTR visa holder has a digital work permit. Yes, you would think the fact that the word "Resident" is in the name of the visa itself would make this pretty clear, but I don't think the people who dreamt up this fee actually have any idea what categories of foreigners exist in Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K2938 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 (edited) On 4/27/2023 at 6:19 PM, Misty said: It will be interesting to see if people who hold the LTR visa have to pay this "tourism fee". I wouldn't have thought so. An LTR visa holder is a foreign resident and is not a tourist. Shouldn't matter whether the LTR visa holder has a digital work permit. Realistically, this decision will probably less be made based on any notion of "fairness", but based on how to get the most money out of foreigners. Do LTR visa holders get local pricing for entering national parks? Are they protected against inflated foreigner pricing in hospitals? ... Edited April 29, 2023 by K2938 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misty Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 1 hour ago, K2938 said: Realistically, this decision will probably less be made based on any notion of "fairness", but based on how to get the most money out of foreigners. Do LTR visa holders get local pricing for entering national parks? Are they protected against inflated foreigner pricing in hospitals? ... Yes, we'll have to see how it's applied. Remember though that NonB visa holders are supposedly exempt from this tourist fee. Yet speaking as a former NonB visa holder for nearly 30 years, NonB visa holders are usually subject to the higher pricing that all foreigners are subject to, elsewhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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