Russia appreciates Thailand's understanding of reasons behind special operation — Lavrov

[brucegoniners]

Oh I'm sure they do.

 

Thailand is in no position to push anyone around.

 

But they should take a stand nonetheless.

 

What Russia is doing is criminal.

[Lacessit]

34 minutes ago, Purdey said:

In modern times, Thailand has been neutral except where it has been dragged into something. The nonaligned movement was one aspect of its declared neutrality. It does irritate warmongers but it is their kingdom not ours.

Quite correct, it is Thailand making the decision to stay neutral.

What is sticking in the craw of most posters is giving Russia's chief propaganda mouthpiece oxygen and publicity, the junta would have been far smarter to keep his visit as low-key as possible. But then, the junta is not noted for smarts.

[sambum]

3 hours ago, ChasingTheSun said:

Thailnd is likely on the right side of history on this one.
 

Like it or not, most countries and most people of the world are either nuetral or on russias side in the ukraine conflict. 

 

anyone who does the most basic of independent background research on the conflict would also likely agree that Russia was undeniably forced into this sad conflict. 
 

hopefully biden and nato will allow Ukraine to negotiate peace sooner, rather than later. It’s doubtful that zelensky will be around at that time to do any negotiations.

 

 

 

"Like it or not, most countries and most people of the world are either nuetral or on russias side in the ukraine conflict."

 

False news? 

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[harada]

4 hours ago, Funkymover said:

Thailand the land of the selfish, money grabbing , cowards, who are also selling their country to china.. 

You’d think that they’d be having second thoughts about going down that road after seeing what’s happened to Sri Lanka and before long the Solomon Islands, but I guess that’s greed for you. ????

[Bangkok Barry]

The fact that Thailand has not condemned Russia tells you all you need to know. Not that it matters a rat's fart what Thailand thinks as no-one actually cares. Even Russia.

[tomyami]

Thailand will pick another side when the ORCs flee Ukraine as some have already started

Lavruf is a lying Kremlin mafia lieutenant mouth piece

[superal]

2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Pure Russian propaganda. I somehow doubt they are willing to share the truth on the despicable war crimes they've committed, the rapes, torture and murders of the Ukraine civilians and children.

Indeed your comments are true, plus indiscriminate missile attacks on Ukraine hospitals and schools and the shooting of unarmed civilians . The list of war crimes is huge . Putin cannot win this war , also he has turned Russia into an insular country  . The Ukraine forces are making gains and taking back land that had been lost to the Russians earlier . Putin has no scruples on the harm he is causing and now has cut off gas and oil supplies to Europe and causing damage to European  industry  and economies .  

Now I read that Russia has asked north Korea for 100,000 troops along with weaponry . So I suppose staying neutral will exclude your country from any such involvement but at the same time neutrality could be seen as condoning the atrocities carried out by Russia . 

[anandra]

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Pure Russian propaganda. I somehow doubt they are willing to share the truth on the despicable war crimes they've committed, the rapes, torture and murders of the Ukraine civilians and children.

Those russian trolls are not aware even what is going on in russia, what their leaders, members of parliament, propogandists are saying on russian Tv, or probably they know but think that people on this forum know nothing and trolls can manipulate them posting outdated lies.

[bamnutsak]

In the U.N., Thailand did for the Russian condemnation resolution. They could have abstained.

 

So this TASS article obviously paints the Thai diplomats as two-faced. Shocker? No, honestly.

 

 

[connda]

Lavrov embodies a characteristic that the West and US had 40 years ago, but no longer have:

Statesmanship

Problems can not be resolved when only one party (Russia) is open to civil talks. 
The visceral hatred of all things Russia by many members of this forum is just symptomatic of the West's problem as these people simply reflect their own country's foreign policy.  Sad.

[Bluespunk]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

MOSCOW /TASS/. Russia is grateful to Thailand for an objective assessment of the events in Ukraine and understanding of the true causes of the situation in the international arena,

Damned by faint praise. 

[Cake Monster]

I wonder if the supply of cheap Gas that is sanctioned was discussed at all

[Lacessit]

8 minutes ago, superal said:

Indeed your comments are true, plus indiscriminate missile attacks on Ukraine hospitals and schools and the shooting of unarmed civilians . The list of war crimes is huge . Putin cannot win this war , also he has turned Russia into an insular country  . The Ukraine forces are making gains and taking back land that had been lost to the Russians earlier . Putin has no scruples on the harm he is causing and now has cut off gas and oil supplies to Europe and causing damage to European  industry  and economies .  

Now I read that Russia has asked north Korea for 100,000 troops along with weaponry . So I suppose staying neutral will exclude your country from any such involvement but at the same time neutrality could be seen as condoning the atrocities carried out by Russia . 

Putin is losing on a number of fronts. Russia is a big country, it needs a lot of domestic aircraft to move goods around. It is already cannibalizing the Boeings and Airbuses to keep planes in the air within its borders.

Cutting off gas and oil to Europe is a two-edged sword. It means Putin is no longer getting the income to finance his war. The Indians and Chinese won't be buying except at a deep discount, and Putin does not have the pipelines to deliver those products in enough volume. In addition.oil wells and gas fields have to keep pumping for maximum efficiency. The Russians do not have storage capacity, Europe does. Basically, Putin has shot himself in the foot, because when Europe transitions to other energy sources, Putin loses about three-quarters of the market for his gas and oil.

He's not getting any foreign investment either, that horse has well and truly bolted. He has succeeded in unifying NATO, and getting it extra members.

I doubt the dictator in North Korea will accede to Putin's request, why send troops that are protecting you at home to be chopped up in Ukraine, under poor Russian leadership? The alternative for Putin is to order a general mobilisation, even the dumbest Russian would then understand Ukraine is no longer a "special military operation."

 

[Mbaki]

4 hours ago, KhaoYai said:

Western propaganda?  Is it a lie that Russia invaded Ukraine then? A lie that they also invaded Crimea in 2014?  It may interest you to know that most of the West's news outlet's and media services are free to report whatever they wish.  Unlike Russia's which is completely managed and controlled. Putin and the majority (it seems) of his citizens live in their own, totally paranoid, parallel reality.

 

Its not so long ago that Russia was welcomed back into the fold of nations and it seemed that peace was finally in sight for most of the world.  Putin is a thug and a murderer who aligns himself with other's similar to himself - look what he's done is Syria, supporting that tyrant Assad.

 

Now name one Western country that is currently waging war against another, killing thousands, if not millions of people.  The West may not be perfect but its not on a bloodthirsty power crusade.

Not on a blood thirsty crusade? Tell that to all the countries that USA has invaded making up excuses, while the rest of the world does nothing to stop them, you might also like to read about the torture and rape squads Ukraine sent out before the invasion, no one is squeaky clean.

[fdimike]

No reason at all for Thailand to become involved.  I'm happy they've taken a neutral position.

[Lacessit]

11 minutes ago, connda said:

Lavrov embodies a characteristic that the West and US had 40 years ago, but no longer have:

Statesmanship

Problems can not be resolved when only one party (Russia) is open to civil talks. 
The visceral hatred of all things Russia by many members of this forum is just symptomatic of the West's problem as these people simply reflect their own country's foreign policy.  Sad.

The same "civil talks" in 1991, when Ukraine gave up its nuclear arsenal in return for guarantees of its sovereignty from Russia? The invasion of Crimea in 2014? Butchery in Syria, the same playbook in Ukraine, shelling hospitals and apartment buildings, murdering civilians?

 

I suggest you ask Hungarians, Poles, Latvians, Lithuanians, Estonians, CzechoSlovaks Finns etc. why they hate Russians. Stand back when you do.

 

You post is so disgusting in its moral vacuity and delusion you are on ignore immediately.

 

[Mbaki]

3 hours ago, kennw said:

I guess you are also pleased to see the clear and honest reporting the Russian people get back home?

Same on both sides

[Photoguy21]

7 hours ago, smedly said:

what a pile of garbled con words that say absolutely nothing, the first part almost describes Thailand backing Russias invasion and the second part leans towards Thaind backing the international response

 

total hogwash

Since when has any politician ever said anything meaningful?

[AnotherFarang8]

Forum members who condemn Thailand for staying neutral should immediately leave LoS on the first available flight to be true to themselves and never return, shouldn’t they?

[JayClay]

2 minutes ago, AnotherFarang8 said:

Forum members who condemn Thailand for staying neutral should immediately leave LoS on the first available flight to be true to themselves and never return, shouldn’t they?

No

[Spock]

4 hours ago, ChasingTheSun said:

Thailnd is likely on the right side of history on this one.
 

Like it or not, most countries and most people of the world are either nuetral or on russias side in the ukraine conflict. 

 

anyone who does the most basic of independent background research on the conflict would also likely agree that Russia was undeniably forced into this sad conflict. 
 

hopefully biden and nato will allow Ukraine to negotiate peace sooner, rather than later. It’s doubtful that zelensky will be around at that time to do any negotiations.

 

 

 

I don't understand how these pro Russian posts get so much support. There are obviously more Russians and lovers of the country around than I would have thought likely. Don't know how any of you can defended the brutality of its soldiers. As for the comment that most country are neutral or support Russia, this would certainly not apply to European, British or American based countries. Perhaps some of the more desperate countries relying on Russian handouts might turn a blind eye, but any country with a decent moral outlook would surely not support such an unprincipled regime.

 

[sanuk711]

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

We all remember how Thailand also "remained neutral" during WWII, and allowed themselves to be occupied by the Japanese. Perhaps this "being on the wrong side of history" is becoming habitual? 

There was another country that remained "Neutral" --Neutral while some of the worse bombing attacks on civilian  targets were taking place--Neutral while Gas chambers were set up to be packed by men/women & children--- Neutral until attacked & forced to take a stand & join the rest of the world fighting fascism .

 

But dont lets talk about that ---lets study Thailand's moral compass in the 40s

[itsari]

4 hours ago, KhaoYai said:

Western propaganda?  Is it a lie that Russia invaded Ukraine then? A lie that they also invaded Crimea in 2014?  It may interest you to know that most of the West's news outlet's and media services are free to report whatever they wish.  Unlike Russia's which is completely managed and controlled. Putin and the majority (it seems) of his citizens live in their own, totally paranoid, parallel reality.

 

Its not so long ago that Russia was welcomed back into the fold of nations and it seemed that peace was finally in sight for most of the world.  Putin is a thug and a murderer who aligns himself with other's similar to himself - look what he's done is Syria, supporting that tyrant Assad.

 

Now name one Western country that is currently waging war against another, killing thousands, if not millions of people.  The West may not be perfect but its not on a bloodthirsty power crusade.

I gave you a like yet I wonder who is killing millions in our present world?

[Bkk Brian]

20 minutes ago, temporocco said:

Well done Thailand. Absolutely correct to ignore the Western war mongoring propaganda machine.

The time for US covert wars is over. The desperation is plain to see that the Biden regime will do anything to keep the truth coming out. The UN, EU, NATO M15/6, CIA, Soros et al have colluded for years to bring down the Russian economy and societal structures. Want proof? Here we go...see the attachment. READ UP AND GET INFORMED before you jump to mainstream media fed narratives. Ignorance will lead us all into a calamity. 

 

Rand Corp Extending RUSSIA 2019.pdf 2.69 MB · 0 downloads

At the top of this document it says:

 

Unauthorized posting of this publication online is prohibited.

 

Should you really be sharing this information on US military publications or is that just part of your desperate attempt at serving as one of the Putin apologists?

[Lacessit]

21 minutes ago, AnotherFarang8 said:

Forum members who condemn Thailand for staying neutral should immediately leave LoS on the first available flight to be true to themselves and never return, shouldn’t they?

Expressing an opinion and acting on a belief are two different things.

The followers of Jim Jones were true to their beliefs, look where it got them.

[jollyhangmon]

1 hour ago, Grusa said:

If the "sad" emoji was available I would use it. I suspect I am not alone?

... yep, couldn't agree more.

What's up with that siht anyway, did I miss something ...?

Going into general 360° <deleted>-kissing mode on here?? Thai style?!

Reeffindiculous kindergarten, 5555 ...

 

[NoshowJones]

5 hours ago, vandeventer said:

Just when I think we are headed in the right direction they take this neutral stand. Yea, plenty of discounted oil and gas while the EU will be freezing soon.

I am not saying that the war in Europe is blameless, and I cannot speak for any EU countries, but yes the UK will be freezing soon and the blame lies within the UK itself, allowing the power companies to make obscene profits.

It is just another case of certain people making huge financial benefits out of human tragedies like the pandemic, and the war in Europe.

[NoshowJones]

5 hours ago, KhaoYai said:

Well of course, Russia is looking for new customers for its oil and Thailand wouldn't say no to securing some at a reasonable price.

 

Still, disgraceful behaviour - how can anyone justify Russia's invasion of Ukraine?  Anyone who believes Putin's claims that Ukraine was a threat is as daft as the millions of Russian citizens that believe the rubbish they are fed by their strictly controlled media and news services.

 

Ukraine was never a threat to that lunatic Putin or his country - even if they had joined NATO.  NATO exists to defend its members, not to threaten them. That one man is responsible for thousands of deaths (again) is beyond me.

 

What Putin really wants is the whole of Ukraine back under his control - either directly or throuh a puppet, as he has with that other thug in Belarus.  Why he wants more power, more land is beyond reason - I thought Imperialism was dead.

 

Thailand's position on this, given the nature of its current government is wholly in keeping.

 

 

"Thailand's position on this, given the nature of its current government is wholly in keeping."

This is an excellent post but I cannot understand this part of it.

[Arthur Mullard]

8 hours ago, starky said:

We recognise Thailand's generations long ability to play both sides against the middle thus making them able to simultaneously profit from both sides whilst having zero accountability nor indeed any reason to commit to anything. 

  Whats that expression? Weak as <deleted>.

Morally flawed ???????????? (+ a lot of wai-ing) 

[Tropposurfer]

Lavrov; A real peach of a guy