"Envious" Pit Bull called Nazi attacks - owner left in a pool of blood

[JonnyF]

1 hour ago, animatic said:

If the dog saw his food being taken from him and given to a lesser status dog by a lesser statust master, he could well want to assert his claim.

 

We have one huge dog, but we feed him after the smaller dogs and keep him leashed till his time comes. He also is told to sit and wait for an eat command before he can start.
 

We must always let him know WE control food and never him. This works. But we also never take his food from him. Food for the others arrives separately, even if prepared together. 
 

If you think like dogs think you can control most dogs, if not you get problems.

Absolutely right. Our PitBull has to sit and wait for at least 10 seconds after the food goes down before he can start eating it.

 

We also made sure from a young age that we could move the bowl or touch the food while he is eating. He can also be petted while eating. He doesn't bat an eyelid, because he has been trained from a young age and understands that we are the master and he is the dog. He also knows that he gets fed twice a day no matter what - so he has no anxiety about going hungry.

 

I suspect this dog had become extremely food aggressive by being fed irregularly. He probably had also never been disciplined properly, leaving him to think that he was the alpha in the household, hence the aggression towards the owner when he thought his food was going elsewhere.

 

I actually agree that it would be a good idea for some kind of licence or training for owning large or powerful dogs, but this is Thailand where they can't even stop people riding motorbikes the wrong way down the street while smoking a cigarette with no helmet or driving licence. That's not the motorbike's fault. 

[richard_smith237]

1 hour ago, proton said:

If they are so harmless why do people give them names like Tyson, Fury, Storm and Nazi? Banned in several counties they should be banned here, and anyone who lets them near kids should be prosecuted.

Couldn’t agree more...

 

Now... are you copying me ??? ????

 

 

5 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Are there ever any dogs which we usually see on dangerous dogs list in countries such as the UK ever called by names which are not ‘kind of violent’... i.e. Tyson, Ripper, Blaze etc...  does anyone name their Pit-Bull, Doberman or Rottweiler, Sandy, Buddy, Patch ???? 

 

[billsmart]

Why are the eyes of the pit bull hidden by a bar, like they do with people? So we wouldn't recognize him if we saw him at Lotus's? <deleted>??? ????

[Archie Baker]

Is the dog for sale? Good breeding stock. 

[proton]

2 hours ago, edogthong said:

So watching them starve to death in front of your eyes when you could easily prevent it is the righteous path, is it? I'm sick of expats telling me I shouldn't feed stray dogs. Support local animal charities, encourage neutering and spaying and help those who are already alive to survive. That's the way and the light. 

More like the stray and the bite! All you do feeding them is to perpetuate suffering and you do it to make yourself feel as if you are doing good. You are just making the problem worse. I have no problem with these pests starving to death, the sooner the better all round.

Edited September 20, 2022 by proton

[sambum]

"But she wouldn't be going near him again."

 

Now there's a surprise! If I had my way, nobody would be going anywhere near these monsters ever again - I would have the species eradicated!

 

 

Edited September 20, 2022 by metisdead
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[Woof999]

To find Nazi, did the police have to enter the house and turn third right?

[GreasyFingers]

7 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Once again, clueless owners.

 

I knew a Thai guy in Phuket who had a Pitbull called Tyson that he kept in a small cage, barely big enough to turn around in. Often whacked it with a stick. If it was lucky it got let it out for about 15 minutes a day. Then complained when it bit his gardener that was shooing it with a broom.

 

Wonderful dogs when trained properly and cared for. Very intelligent with huge personalities. Ours is great company.

 

 

 

Why a pit bull. Plenty of other breeds or is it a reflection of personality.

Not being nasty as I used to have a German Shepherd Dog who was fully trained to obedience, lovely dog, but had a flaw in its attitude for some people.

You never know the full personality of a dog.

 

[Sydebolle]

Certain dogs should be prohibited by law and Pitbull is one of them. There is no justifiable reason to have such a potential killing machine at home. 
The dog is not at fault but the dog is a dog is a dog and nobody can tell you with 100% certainty what it takes for the dog to go bananas. 
 

[oobar]

3 hours ago, animatic said:

We must always let him know WE control food and never him. This works. But we also never take his food from him. Food for the others arrives separately, even if prepared together. 

You should be able to take his food away from him with confidence and ease, and he should make no aggressive tendency at all toward you.

[metisdead]

Off topic deflection posts and replies have been removed.  Although the pit bull's name is "Nazi" is not an invitation to go into discussion about Nazism or anti-Semitism. 

[billd766]

4 hours ago, animatic said:

If the dog saw his food being taken from him and given to a lesser status dog by a lesser statust master, he could well want to assert his claim.

 

We have one huge dog, but we feed him after the smaller dogs and keep him leashed till his time comes. He also is told to sit and wait for an eat command before he can start.
 

We must always let him know WE control food and never him. This works. But we also never take his food from him. Food for the others arrives separately, even if prepared together. 
 

If you think like dogs think you can control most dogs, if not you get problems.

You must always be the Alpha dog, the pack leader. If you can manage that, then you can control the dogs.

[Grusa]

4 hours ago, animatic said:

If the dog saw his food being taken from him and given to a lesser status dog by a lesser statust master, he could well want to assert his claim.

 

We have one huge dog, but we feed him after the smaller dogs and keep him leashed till his time comes. He also is told to sit and wait for an eat command before he can start.
 

We must always let him know WE control food and never him. This works. But we also never take his food from him. Food for the others arrives separately, even if prepared together. 
 

If you think like dogs think you can control most dogs, if not you get problems.

If it thinks like a dog, acts like a dog, and dogs like dog...it's  dog!

 

[Swampy999]

An iron bar was used to prize its jaws open? Should have been used repeatedly to fracture its skull in multiple places, negates the bill to have it put down.

[sambum]

40 minutes ago, GreasyFingers said:

Why a pit bull. Plenty of other breeds or is it a reflection of personality.

Not being nasty as I used to have a German Shepherd Dog who was fully trained to obedience, lovely dog, but had a flaw in its attitude for some people.

You never know the full personality of a dog.

 

There was an article on here a few months ago where a Pit Bull that was sleeping in the same bed as its master suddenly turned on him, attacked and killed him (No comments about bestiality req'd, please!) Th e dog was taken to the local temple where its master was being held pending a funeral to "apologise" to the corpse! TIT!

[fdimike]

8 hours ago, AsianAtHeart said:

Pit bulls are powerful, and despite any training they might receive, they seem more unpredictable than some other types.  They do have more aggression in their blood than many others; e.g. collie, cocker spaniel, Saint Bernard, etc.

 

Once the dog has shown its capability for destructive violence like this, it should be put down.  If it is not put down, the owners make themselves responsible for whatever harm the dog may do again--so if the dog later kills someone, the owners would be guilty of murder.

 

Putting the dog down is not a matter of punishment, but a matter of protecting others.  And it must be done.

I seriously doubt the dog will be "put down" as their Buddhist teachings are certain to get in the way.  Thai Vets will not for the most part euthanize any animal from my experience.

[billd766]

3 hours ago, edogthong said:

So watching them starve to death in front of your eyes when you could easily prevent it is the righteous path, is it? I'm sick of expats telling me I shouldn't feed stray dogs. Support local animal charities, encourage neutering and spaying and help those who are already alive to survive. That's the way and the light. 

Tell that to the people who are chased by dogs and come off their scooters and are hospitalised, possibly facing hospital bills, loss of job and income.

 

As I and many others have said in various posts and threads, why don't YOU take in every stray dog in Thailand, feed them all, keep them all locked up safely until they die of old age.

 

I agree with EVERY dog being registered and licensed plus the owners as well. In western countries this works most of the time, but in Thailand very few Thais will accept the responsibility and if it is forced on them the majority of the owners will simply dump the dogs on the streets.

 

NOW, if you can fix that problem, then in a few years there should be no soi dog problems.

[proton]

Great channel for Dog haters, especially Pit Bulls

 

 

 

[kidneyw]

Glad it was her and not some kid.

[mahtin]

3 hours ago, kevc said:

"A breed some dog lovers think is just a big loyal softy...especially with children."

 

They were banned a long time ago in the UK for being viscous dogs.

Viscous dogs? Luxury.

When I were young I was once chased by a gummy bear.

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[androokery]

7 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Are there ever any dogs which we usually see on dangerous dogs list in countries such as the UK ever called by names which are not ‘kind of violent’... i.e. Tyson, Ripper, Blaze etc...  does anyone name their Pit-Bull, Doberman or Rottweiler, Sandy, Buddy, Patch ???? 

 

Of course, these dogs when extremely well trained are awesome, I’ve no doubt we’ll hear from such responsible owners soon - however, there are always owners who are completely irresponsible. 

Ultimately, such dogs are highly dangerous, as such, any owner of a dog considered a ‘dangerous breed’ really should have a license to own such an animal. 

To obtain such a licence they’d need to undergo training of how to look after and train such an animal and prove that they can secure the animal and house it properly when both present and out, they also need to prove they can afford to look after it properly and have the time to care for it properly. 

I know thats a ridiculously tall ask for a country which doesn’t even enforce helmet laws correctly - nevertheless this is where we should be. 

 

Owners really need to be fully responsible for their pets. All pets should have a collar. 

IF that dog gets out  (I know, not this story), the owner is fined. If that pet bites or hurts someone else, the owner is fined at a commensurate level. 

IF dogs on the street do not have a collar, they should be removed (debate ongoing in another thread)..

 

No doubt someone like Bill Smart will come along to tell us how humans made this dog problem, how its in a book he wrote that humans are the scourge of the planet and if there were no humans we wouldn’t have these issues.... 

 

 

 

 

responsible owner of a pitbull -> the very definition of an oxymoron

[androokery]

1 hour ago, sambum said:

"But she wouldn't be going near him again."

 

Now there's a surprise! If I had my way, nobody would be going anywhere near these monsters ever again - I would have the species eradicated!

 

 

Me too (you mean dogs, right? Not just the breed?)

[androokery]

4 hours ago, edogthong said:

So watching them starve to death in front of your eyes when you could easily prevent it is the righteous path, is it? I'm sick of expats telling me I shouldn't feed stray dogs. Support local animal charities, encourage neutering and spaying and help those who are already alive to survive. That's the way and the light. 

Don't feed stray dogs.

[androokery]

3 hours ago, Fairynuff said:

Interesting that there’s more aggression in this thread than any pit bull

Interesting? Meh - more like incorrect. 

[Mac Mickmanus]

Were both dogs really called "nazi" and "whitey" or did the journo add something false to make the story a bit more interesting ?

[edogthong]

43 minutes ago, billd766 said:

why don't YOU take in every stray dog in Thailand, feed them all, keep them all locked up safely until they die of old age.

So if you can't help every dog in Thailand, you shouldn't help any? Great logic there! So why help anyone at anytime with anything if you can't solve all the world's problems yourself? I guess we should just do away with every charitable organisation in the world. No point feeding the homeless or starting Africans since we can't help them all. 

[edogthong]

11 minutes ago, androokery said:

Don't feed stray dogs.

I'll start feeding twice as many now.

[Thingamabob]

9 hours ago, AsianAtHeart said:

Pit bulls are powerful, and despite any training they might receive, they seem more unpredictable than some other types.  They do have more aggression in their blood than many others; e.g. collie, cocker spaniel, Saint Bernard, etc.

 

Once the dog has shown its capability for destructive violence like this, it should be put down.  If it is not put down, the owners make themselves responsible for whatever harm the dog may do again--so if the dog later kills someone, the owners would be guilty of murder.

 

Putting the dog down is not a matter of punishment, but a matter of protecting others.  And it must be done.

...in which case you will face legal problems in Thailand where dogs are protected by decree.

[spidermike007]

3 hours ago, Fairynuff said:

Interesting that there’s more aggression in this thread than any pit bull

Is it a reasonable presumption a good part of the aggression is coming from highly defensive pit bull owners, who have not had a child, nor a neighbor maimed yet? 

Edited September 20, 2022 by spidermike007

[edogthong]

1 hour ago, Sydebolle said:

Certain dogs should be prohibited by law and Pitbull is one of them.

That's a horrible idea. You've obviously never gained the trust of a pitbull.  They can be the most loyal and trustworthy dogs in the world.