Former President Donald Trump files to run in 2024

[couchpotato]

2 hours ago, Neeranam said:

I thought it was a close election. Words tell a lot! 

About as close as Nicola's referendum.

[khaowong1]

10 hours ago, Sparktrader said:

A dead dog should besat Biden.

Should, but the tampering with the votes keeps happening.  In order for Trump to win, the voting has to be fair.  

[ozimoron]

From the not so left wing press.

 

No.

He often acted as if he were a commentator on his own presidency, and issued orders on Twitter and in other off-the-cuff statements that were ignored. He repeatedly had to be talked out of disastrous ideas by his advisers and Republican elected officials. Trump had a limited understanding of our constitutional system, and at the end of the day, little respect for it.

 

https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/11/no/

 

 

Edited November 16, 2022 by ozimoron

[rudi49jr]

5 minutes ago, khaowong1 said:

Should, but the tampering with the votes keeps happening.  In order for Trump to win, the voting has to be fair.  

Please provide one single shred of evidence that the tampering of the votes keeps happening. So far, almost all of the voter fraud in the 2020 election was done by Republicans.

[gbsmiley]

I'm from the UK; can only imagine your laws are different to ours.

You certainly couldn't run for office whilst in prison.

I have no affinity to either party 

Replublican or Democrat, or their policies, but can say this.

In UK we see Trump as a 'Nut Job'

[rattlesnake]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

You should go for the trifecta, be anti-fluoride as well.

I can only agree with the first part of the sentence.

Will go for the quadfecta as I must confess to having a penchant for flat Earth theories.

[ozimoron]

12 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

Will go for the quadfecta as I must confess to having a penchant for flat Earth theories.

Pretty soon we'll have a real moon landing. Maybe.

[Mac Mickmanus]

30 minutes ago, gbsmiley said:

I'm from the UK; can only imagine your laws are different to ours.

You certainly couldn't run for office whilst in prison.

I have no affinity to either party 

Replublican or Democrat, or their policies, but can say this.

In UK we see Trump as a 'Nut Job'

Have you been nominated to speak on behalf of the 60 Million people living in the U.K ?

   Are you the leader or something ?

Edited November 16, 2022 by Mac Mickmanus

[Neeranam]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Donald J Trump will never be president again. Everyone knows that.

This running is a ruse to try to pressure  against indictments.

You said that last time, I disagreed and got 4/1 from the bookies when he became president. Have you got over that after 6 years? 

[Neeranam]

2 hours ago, rudi49jr said:

If you think losing by 7 million votes is a close election….

Biden won 51.3% of the votes, you are way off saying he slaughtered Trump. 

[Bkk Brian]

One loser to another............????

 

https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/1592705347676168192

Edited November 16, 2022 by Bkk Brian

[rudi49jr]

4 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Biden won 51.3% of the votes, you are way off saying he slaughtered Trump. 

He beat Trump by a pretty significant margin (7 million votes), didn’t he?

[ozimoron]

Donald Trump 'Holding Us All at Gunpoint'

 

Speaking from the ball room of his Mar-a-Lago resort, Trump claimed "our country is being destroyed before your very eyes," and branded President Biden the "face of left-wing failure and government corruption."

However, Trump's announcement went down badly on influential r/Conservative Reddit group, which has one million members, with most of the top-rated comments criticizing the former president.

One commentator, using account name neutralpoliticsbot, received 1,000 upvotes for posting: "He is going to be the Hillary Clinton of republican party in 2024 isn't he?

 

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-holding-us-all-gunpoint-conservatives-angry-2024-run-1760022

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1 hour ago, ozimoron said:

Maybe the National Archives complaint was politically motivated and false? They colluded with the FBI to justify a fake raid.

 

 

Never trust a librarian.

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 hour ago, ozimoron said:

Maybe the National Archives complaint was politically motivated and false? They colluded with the FBI to justify a fake raid.

 

 

Mr Trump said that he would have given all and any documents they wanted and they just had to ask him and he would have happily handed them over . 

   They still aren't sure whether they have all the documents now , which could mean the documents don't exist and they want non existent documents 

[ozimoron]

3 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Mr Trump said that he would have given all and any documents they wanted and they just had to ask him and he would have happily handed them over . 

   They still aren't sure whether they have all the documents now , which could mean the documents don't exist and they want non existent documents 

They did ask him. Repeatedly. He didn't. That's the point.

[rudi49jr]

6 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Mr Trump said that he would have given all and any documents they wanted and they just had to ask him and he would have happily handed them over . 

   They still aren't sure whether they have all the documents now , which could mean the documents don't exist and they want non existent documents 

Mr. Trump can say a lot of things, and he usually does, but unfortunately so little of it is actually true. They asked him numerous times. He never handed anything over. That’s pretty much the gist of it. And that’s why they decided to go and get the documents themselves.

Edited November 16, 2022 by rudi49jr

[Lacessit]

54 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

Will go for the quadfecta as I must confess to having a penchant for flat Earth theories.

Gravity is only a theory too, but I can't find anyone willing to test its validity by stepping off a condo balcony 23 floors up.

[Lacessit]

2 hours ago, AndyFoxy said:

Would be great. President Trump is a great man. He is definitely my president, and I’m not even American.

Don't you mean ex-President Trump, three-time loser?

[Bkk Brian]

15 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Mr Trump said that he would have given all and any documents they wanted and they just had to ask him and he would have happily handed them over . 

   They still aren't sure whether they have all the documents now , which could mean the documents don't exist and they want non existent documents 

Facts First: It is not true that federal investigators could have long ago obtained the government records in Trump’s possession just by asking. By the time of the search, the federal government had been asking Trump for more than a year to return records from his presidency. Even when the Justice Department went beyond asking in May and served Trump’s team with the subpoena for the return of all documents with classification markings, Trump’s team returned only some of these documents – and then, in June, Trump lawyer Christina Bobb signed a document certifying on behalf of Trump’s office that all of the documents had been returned, though that was not true.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/01/politics/fact-check-trump-claims-fbi-search/index.html

[Mac Mickmanus]

9 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Facts First: It is not true that federal investigators could have long ago obtained the government records in Trump’s possession just by asking. By the time of the search, the federal government had been asking Trump for more than a year to return records from his presidency. Even when the Justice Department went beyond asking in May and served Trump’s team with the subpoena for the return of all documents with classification markings, Trump’s team returned only some of these documents – and then, in June, Trump lawyer Christina Bobb signed a document certifying on behalf of Trump’s office that all of the documents had been returned, though that was not true.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/01/politics/fact-check-trump-claims-fbi-search/index.html

• The National Archives said it had been working with representatives of Donald Trump since 2021 on the return of records the former president took from the White House to his Florida home.

• It retrieved 15 boxes of materials from Mar-a-Lago in mid-January. After finding at least 100 documents with classified information among them, it told the Justice Department.

https://www.politifact.com/article/2022/aug/25/all-they-had-do-was-ask-said-trump-timeline-nation/

 

[Lacessit]

8 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Facts First: It is not true that federal investigators could have long ago obtained the government records in Trump’s possession just by asking. By the time of the search, the federal government had been asking Trump for more than a year to return records from his presidency. Even when the Justice Department went beyond asking in May and served Trump’s team with the subpoena for the return of all documents with classification markings, Trump’s team returned only some of these documents – and then, in June, Trump lawyer Christina Bobb signed a document certifying on behalf of Trump’s office that all of the documents had been returned, though that was not true.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/01/politics/fact-check-trump-claims-fbi-search/index.html

Ms Bobb is going to be thrown under a bus, it happens quite a lot with those employed by Trump.

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

• The National Archives said it had been working with representatives of Donald Trump since 2021 on the return of records the former president took from the White House to his Florida home.

• It retrieved 15 boxes of materials from Mar-a-Lago in mid-January. After finding at least 100 documents with classified information among them, it told the Justice Department.

https://www.politifact.com/article/2022/aug/25/all-they-had-do-was-ask-said-trump-timeline-nation/

 

How exactly is that relevant to your claim:

 

29 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Mr Trump said that he would have given all and any documents they wanted and they just had to ask him and he would have happily handed them over . 

   They still aren't sure whether they have all the documents now , which could mean the documents don't exist and they want non existent documents 

Which was debunked in my post

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, nauseus said:

 I was more after what disastrous failures Trump is guilty of while he was President before the election. 

Inciting an attack on the Capitol.

Kissing the ring of Putin.

Handing that N.Korean dictator a publicity coup.

Destroying the Iranian Nuclear arms pact.

Undermining the UN.

Politicizing the DOJ.

 

Do I need to go on?

[ozimoron]

Here's another Trump failure. Trump's "Benghazi!!!" aka "Mission Accomplished!"

 

U.S. troop deaths revive anger over Trump’s Syria withdrawal plan

 

A suicide bombing in Syria killed four Americans and wounded three more on Wednesday, raising questions about the terror group’s resilience and reviving the pitched debate around Donald Trump’s plan to withdraw American forces from the country.

 

The Islamic State, also known as ISIS, claimed credit for the attack in the northern city of Manbij, which went unmentioned in a speech hours later by Vice President Mike Pence, who declared that “[t]he caliphate has crumbled and ISIS has been defeated.”

 

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/16/us-troops-killed-manbij-syria-1104355

Edited November 16, 2022 by ozimoron

[Chomper Higgot]

11 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

• The National Archives said it had been working with representatives of Donald Trump since 2021 on the return of records the former president took from the White House to his Florida home.

• It retrieved 15 boxes of materials from Mar-a-Lago in mid-January. After finding at least 100 documents with classified information among them, it told the Justice Department.

https://www.politifact.com/article/2022/aug/25/all-they-had-do-was-ask-said-trump-timeline-nation/

 

And then there were those other boxes stuffed with national security documents that Trump had absolutely no legal right to retain.

 

But there is hope for you and Trump, maybe the DOJ aren’t on the case.

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Here's another Trump failure. Trump's "Benghazi!!!" aka "Mission Accomplished!"

 

U.S. troop deaths revive anger over Trump’s Syria withdrawal plan

 

A suicide bombing in Syria killed four Americans and wounded three more on Wednesday, raising questions about the terror group’s resilience and reviving the pitched debate around Donald Trump’s plan to withdraw American forces from the country.

 

The Islamic State, also known as ISIS, claimed credit for the attack in the northern city of Manbij, which went unmentioned in a speech hours later by Vice President Mike Pence, who declared that “[t]he caliphate has crumbled and ISIS has been defeated.”

 

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/16/us-troops-killed-manbij-syria-1104355

And another, his concerted efforts to undermine the efforts to combat a deadly disease that killed hundreds of thousands of Americans.

[rattlesnake]

6 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Twice impeached.

And twice acquitted.

 

Led a failed coup attempt.

The second impeachment claimed this. Again, he was acquitted.

 

Very likely to be indicted on multiple felony counts including possibly treason.

The same way "Russia" "very likely" made him win in 2016? Friendly reminder:

https://www.americanbar.org/news/abanews/aba-news-archives/2019/03/mueller-concludes-investigation/

It's fine to not like Trump, but let's quit the BS shall we, especially when the current guy is a senile creep who likes sniffing little girls and whose son is a scumbag of the worst type.

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

And then there were those other boxes stuffed with national security documents that Trump had absolutely no legal right to retain.

 

But there is hope for you and Trump, maybe the DOJ aren’t on the case.

If he had read his own link fully, it was actually a fact check debunking his own claim............lol

 

"That (the FBI) then went forward with a search warrant shows the level of concern they had that anything less than a search would not result in the complete retrieval of all remaining classified records," said Bradley Moss, a Washington-based lawyer who works on national security cases, Trump was given far more leeway than most Americans, experts told us, and could have avoided the search with full cooperation.

 

"Trump and his associates have not been cooperative," said Michael Gerhardt, a law professor at the University of North Carolina, who said the argument made by Trump and Crenshaw "makes no legal sense" because items the government was seeking were ultimately found in Trump’s possession.

 

https://www.politifact.com/article/2022/aug/25/all-they-had-do-was-ask-said-trump-timeline-nation/

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, rattlesnake said:

It's fine to not like Trump, but let's quit the BS shall we, especially when the current guy is a senile creep who likes sniffing little girls and whose son is a scumbag of the worst type.

don't mention Jr's coke habit. lol.