Elon Musk says Twitter will offer 'amnesty' to suspended accounts

[ukrules]

28 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Right, that's why musk can easily buy a non apple or android mobile phone company.

Indeed.

[ukrules]

27 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

The few linux phones available are really for developers and tinkerers, there's no high end linux phones. It's not just the core operating systems, the phone manufacturers typically add many features which require developing and testing. It would take years to get there in meaningful way I would think. Then there are no third party apps available for any potential new phone and wouldn't be for even more years. Most developers won't even bother for a limited market. That was Blackberry's main problem. No 3rd party apps.

You're absolutely correct on this point.

 

At the moment these companies tend to be small and lack massive funding.

 

Do you think the worlds richest man (on paper at least) could change that if he chose to go to war with Apple and Google?

 

I think you know the answer and it's what I said - he could acquire one of the Linux phone companies and then spend hundreds of millions of dollars developing it - just like Google did with Linux when creating Android and Apple did with BSD when creating MacOS/IOS.

 

That's what Elon Musk does - he buys companies and changes them.

 

Edited November 27, 2022 by ukrules

[heybruce]

42 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

100% of phones (a modified version). 99% of cloud servers (pure linux). I use linux only on my computers, have done for well over a decade. I'd guess all IoT devices use a linux core. Also, all supercomputers I would think.

 

38 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Right, that's why musk can easily buy a non apple or android mobile phone company.

 

9 minutes ago, ukrules said:

Indeed.

Let's distinguish between the Linux operating system and the user interface built on top of that operating system.  Yes, the operating system is widespread, but after years of competition between many different user interfaces, Apple and Android dominate.  That has been the case for years.  That tells us something about how difficult it would be to bring another operating system on the market and make it competitive.

[ozimoron]

7 minutes ago, ukrules said:

You're absolutely correct on this point.

 

At the moment these companies tend to be small and lack massive funding.

 

Do you think the worlds richest man (on paper at least) could change that if he chose to go to war with Apple and Google?

 

I think you know the answer and it's what I said - he could acquire one of the Linux phone companies and then spend hundreds of millions of dollars developing it - just like Google did with Linux when creating Android and Apple did with BSD when creating MacOS/IOS.

 

That's what Elon Musk does - he buys companies and changes them.

 

I won't deny that he could. It's way outside his area of expertise and would take so long to ramp up that I doubt that he would do it. Twitter would be dead and buried by the time it finds a platform with a large enough user base to save it. Just my opinion. I think the whole Twitter thing was brain fart in the first place. I have to wonder why Truth Social is languishing in the doldrums. Any thoughts that Musk would finance losses on Twitter for several years is probably fanciful. He might be worth 200 billion on paper but not in cash.

[heybruce]

16 minutes ago, ukrules said:

You're absolutely correct on this point.

 

At the moment these companies tend to be small and lack massive funding.

 

Do you think the worlds richest man (on paper at least) could change that if he chose to go to war with Apple and Google?

 

I think you know the answer and it's what I said - he could acquire one of the Linux phone companies and then spend hundreds of millions of dollars developing it - just like Google did with Linux when creating Android and Apple did with BSD when creating MacOS/IOS.

 

That's what Elon Musk does - he buys companies and changes them.

 

China has been developing a competing phone OS since before 2014.  Do you think China skimped on resources?  How widespread is its use outside of China?

 

Musk has done well creating big new companies, in part by acquiring much smaller companies.  However taking over a big existing company with a large customer base and turning into something profitable is new ground for him.  It doesn't appear to be going well.

Edited November 27, 2022 by heybruce

[James105]

8 minutes ago, ukrules said:

You're absolutely correct on this point.

 

At the moment these companies tend to be small and lack massive funding.

 

Do you think the worlds richest man (on paper at least) could change that if he chose to go to war with Apple and Google?

 

I think you know the answer and it's what I said - he could acquire one of the Linux phone companies and then spend hundreds of millions of dollars developing it - just like Google did with Linux when creating Android and Apple did with BSD when creating MacOS/IOS.

 

That's what Elon Musk does - he buys companies and changes them.

 

He's too late to the phone party so that idea is a non starter.   Microsoft tried and failed.   Facebook tried and failed.  Blackberry are history.  Some crypto bitcoin guy tried and failed.   It's not the complication of building a phone OS - it could be argued that the mobile version of Windows was better than Android and Apple at the time - but Microsoft found getting devs to build and port versions of their apps over to yet another OS with such a small user base in comparison to apple/android nigh on impossible.   If Microsoft couldn't break into that market (and they invested a ton of money into trying) I doubt anyone could now.  

[Bkk Brian]

Musk getting paranoid, posted a photo of his bedside table.........lol

 

 

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1597165510595989504

 

[Bkk Brian]

Now playing the victim, reminds me of a certain orange man.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1597300125243944961

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1597285572699074560

 

 

[James105]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

Now playing the victim, reminds me of a certain orange man.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1597300125243944961

 

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1597285572699074560

 

 

Tech companies have a very liberal bias so that may be the reason they do not want a level playing field on social media companies, which Musk has set out to achieve.   Maybe they just don't want the thumb removed from the scales come election time.  

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/02/most-liberal-tech-companies-ranked-by-employee-donations.html

[Bkk Brian]

7 minutes ago, James105 said:

Tech companies have a very liberal bias so that may be the reason they do not want a level playing field on social media companies, which Musk has set out to achieve.   Maybe they just don't want the thumb removed from the scales come election time.  

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/02/most-liberal-tech-companies-ranked-by-employee-donations.html

The irony being Musk is tweeting from an iphone lol

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Death wish for Twitter?

 

CNN blasts Elon Musk for sharing fake image on Twitter

On Monday, the billionaire businessman posted an image of CNN anchor Don Lemon alongside a caption reading “Elon Musk could threaten free speech on Twitter by allowing people to speak freely.”

The image appears to suggest that quote came from either Lemon or CNN, but the cable news channel said that was not the case.

“This headline never appeared on CNN,” CNN tweeted at Musk. 

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-elon-musk-cnn-tweet-20221129-dumlsyrqrzfihold7fmy4thvx4-story.html

 

[James105]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

Death wish for Twitter?

 

CNN blasts Elon Musk for sharing fake image on Twitter

On Monday, the billionaire businessman posted an image of CNN anchor Don Lemon alongside a caption reading “Elon Musk could threaten free speech on Twitter by allowing people to speak freely.”

The image appears to suggest that quote came from either Lemon or CNN, but the cable news channel said that was not the case.

“This headline never appeared on CNN,” CNN tweeted at Musk. 

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-elon-musk-cnn-tweet-20221129-dumlsyrqrzfihold7fmy4thvx4-story.html

 

Once again the left demonstrates that it neither understands humour or 'memes'.   

[heybruce]

4 hours ago, James105 said:

Tech companies have a very liberal bias so that may be the reason they do not want a level playing field on social media companies, which Musk has set out to achieve.   Maybe they just don't want the thumb removed from the scales come election time.  

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/02/most-liberal-tech-companies-ranked-by-employee-donations.html

Tech companies have a more highly educated workforce than average.

[rabas]

5 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Musk getting paranoid, posted a photo of his bedside table.........lol

 

 

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1597165510595989504

 

Nothing on the table is a real weapon. Each item represents something that Musk admires, it's a riddle, like a puzzle.  Can you solve the riddle?

 

 

[James105]

11 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Tech companies have a more highly educated workforce than average.

Tech companies have a more highly educated indoctrinated workforce than average.

[Bkk Brian]

5 minutes ago, rabas said:

Nothing on the table is a real weapon. Each item represents something that Musk admires, it's a riddle, like a puzzle.  Can you solve the riddle?

 

 

Freedom, right to bear arms all paranoid fixations from a socially awkward individual

[heybruce]

10 minutes ago, James105 said:

Tech companies have a more highly educated indoctrinated workforce than average.

So everyone who disagrees with you is indoctrinated, everyone who agrees with you is a free thinker.  Is that it?

 

You have been well indoctrinated.

[Bkk Brian]

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

Death wish for Twitter?

 

CNN blasts Elon Musk for sharing fake image on Twitter

On Monday, the billionaire businessman posted an image of CNN anchor Don Lemon alongside a caption reading “Elon Musk could threaten free speech on Twitter by allowing people to speak freely.”

The image appears to suggest that quote came from either Lemon or CNN, but the cable news channel said that was not the case.

“This headline never appeared on CNN,” CNN tweeted at Musk. 

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-elon-musk-cnn-tweet-20221129-dumlsyrqrzfihold7fmy4thvx4-story.html

 

As we know Musk often self deletes tweets and meme's. He deleted another a few hours ago in reference to apple:

 

Elon Musk shared a tweet, showing that he is willing to 'Go to War' with Apple rather than pay the 30 per cent tax.  However, the billionaire seems to have deleted the tweet. Business Today managed to get a screengrab of the tweet.

https://www.businesstoday.in/technology/news/story/elon-musk-may-go-to-war-with-apple-as-iphone-maker-threatens-to-withhold-twitter-354500-2022-11-29

 

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4 hours ago, James105 said:

Tech companies have a very liberal bias so that may be the reason they do not want a level playing field on social media companies, which Musk has set out to achieve.   Maybe they just don't want the thumb removed from the scales come election time.  

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/02/most-liberal-tech-companies-ranked-by-employee-donations.html

More nonsense. In general scientiists and IT workers have a politically liberal take. Probably because they have respect for evidence. It goes with the job. But someone who claims that because their politics are liberal, therefore they are biased in their work, is someone who has misunderstood the nature of the evidence he presents. Probably not a scientist or IT worker.

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42 minutes ago, James105 said:

Once again the left demonstrates that it neither understands humour or 'memes'.   

I guess you've forgotten that when comedians posted parodies of Musk, he banned parodies. Then he made it a rule that parodies must be labelled as such when they are posted. Apparently, the rules don't apply to him. But of course, even if he did post it with a warning, it just shows how badly he misunderstands what his role as CEO should be. ANd it was especially stupid given that it's media companies that drive Twitter. You would think that after trying he's incapable of it.

[rabas]

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

I guess you've forgotten that when comedians posted parodies of Musk, he banned parodies. Then he made it a rule that parodies must be labelled as such when they are posted. Apparently, the rules don't apply to him. But of course, even if he did post it with a warning, it just shows how badly he misunderstands what his role as CEO should be. ANd it was especially stupid given that it's media companies that drive Twitter. You would think that after trying he's incapable of it.

He banned people making fake accounts, which they claimed were for parody. He said that accounts impersonating others for parody must now include "parody" in the account name. 

 

The CNN tweet is not an account, it's a parody meme. People who don't appreciate it may well say it's fake news in their POV.

 

The actual meme is a well known fake from Genesius Times from April 2022. Musk posted it with no comment likely as one in a series of tweets testing response and new algorithms. When CommunityNotes quickly flagged it,  Musk lauded them by commenting "FTW!". 

[dotcalm]

On 11/27/2022 at 9:28 AM, heybruce said:

It doesn't appear to be going well.

  Twitter User Signups & Daily Active Minutes Hit All-Time High

https://www.tesmanian.com/blogs/tesmanian-blog/twitter-user-signups-and-their-day-active-minutes-at-all-time-high-says-elon-musk

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

11 minutes ago, rabas said:

He banned people making fake accounts, which they claimed were for parody. He said that accounts impersonating others for parody must now include "parody" in the account name. 

 

The CNN tweet is not an account, it's a parody meme. People who don't appreciate it may well say it's fake news in their POV.

 

The actual meme is a well known fake from Genesius Times from April 2022. Musk posted it with no comment likely as one in a series of tweets testing response and new algorithms. When CommunityNotes quickly flagged it,  Musk lauded them by commenting "FTW!". 

Twitter suspended comedian Kathy Griffin's account on Sunday evening after she jokingly pretended to be Elon Musk on the platform and mocked him in several tweets.

Griffin now joins a range of several celebrities and figures who had their Twitter handles suspended for parodying Musk. A week earlier, the billionaire had declared that "comedy is now legal on Twitter," after buying the platform.

https://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-suspends-kathy-griffins-account-after-she-parodied-elon-musk-2022-11

[rabas]

31 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Twitter suspended comedian Kathy Griffin's account on Sunday evening after she jokingly pretended to be Elon Musk on the platform and mocked him in several tweets.

Griffin now joins a range of several celebrities and figures who had their Twitter handles suspended for parodying Musk. A week earlier, the billionaire had declared that "comedy is now legal on Twitter," after buying the platform.

https://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-suspends-kathy-griffins-account-after-she-parodied-elon-musk-2022-11

She was not banded for a meme.  She changed her official account name to Elon Musk with no indication it was a parody.  

 

Musk then made a new rule that all parody accounts must clearly include parody in the account name. Her account has now been restored. 

 

https://twitter.com/hodgetwins/status/1589395345561497601

 

 

Edited November 29, 2022 by rabas

[Bkk Brian]

3 minutes ago, rabas said:

She was not banded for a meme.  She changed her official account name to Elon Musk with no indication it is was a parody.  

 

Musk then made a new rule that all parody accounts must clearly include parody in the account name. Her account has now been restored. 

 

https://twitter.com/hodgetwins/status/1589395345561497601

 

 

I'm aware what she did, its all in the article I linked to, he also said if she really wants her account back, she can have it," he said. "For $8," he added, referencing his proposed paid-verification checkmark system for $7.99 a month.

 

I guess he said the same to all the others mentioned in the article that also changed their names in a parody of him. 

[Eric Loh]

57 minutes ago, dotcalm said:

  Twitter User Signups & Daily Active Minutes Hit All-Time High

https://www.tesmanian.com/blogs/tesmanian-blog/twitter-user-signups-and-their-day-active-minutes-at-all-time-high-says-elon-musk

 

 

That increase in signups probably came from his verification scheme that allowed extremists and scammers to purchase a blue check. However it came with a heavy costs. Half of twitters' top advertisers appear to no longer advertising. Big names like Chevolet, Ford, Merck, Novartis spent USD750 million in advertisement just in 2022. That kind of revenue lost is not sustainable for Twitters in the long run. 

https://www.npr.org/2022/11/25/1139180002/twitter-loses-50-top-advertisers-elon-musk

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1 hour ago, rabas said:

He banned people making fake accounts, which they claimed were for parody. He said that accounts impersonating others for parody must now include "parody" in the account name. 

 

The CNN tweet is not an account, it's a parody meme. People who don't appreciate it may well say it's fake news in their POV.

 

The actual meme is a well known fake from Genesius Times from April 2022. Musk posted it with no comment likely as one in a series of tweets testing response and new algorithms. When CommunityNotes quickly flagged it,  Musk lauded them by commenting "FTW!". 

No, he didn't ban people from making fake accounts. Fake accounts, parodies or not, were always forbidden. He banned parodists them from using fake handles. What's the significant difference between one kind of deception and the other?

And the thing is, given the propensity of those on the right for believing falsehoods,such as  birtherism, qanon, election fraud, etc I don't think most of those on the right would have understood it was a parody. And calling it "well known" doesn't make it so. 

 

Likely as a test huh? The owner of the company is putting out fakes under his own name to conduct tests? Give it a rest. Either that or Twitter has one very dim owner.

 

[James105]

4 hours ago, placeholder said:

I guess you've forgotten that when comedians posted parodies of Musk, he banned parodies. Then he made it a rule that parodies must be labelled as such when they are posted. Apparently, the rules don't apply to him. But of course, even if he did post it with a warning, it just shows how badly he misunderstands what his role as CEO should be. ANd it was especially stupid given that it's media companies that drive Twitter. You would think that after trying he's incapable of it.

CNN is a parody of itself, but they don't make it clear that they are a parody news network.   Whether that means they should be banned from Twitter under Musks rules I do not know, but I do hope not otherwise I'd miss the CNN classics like this one:

 

[Bkk Brian]

7 minutes ago, James105 said:

CNN is a parody of itself, but they don't make it clear that they are a parody news network.   Whether that means they should be banned from Twitter under Musks rules I do not know, but I do hope not otherwise I'd miss the CNN classics like this one:

 

Yet what he actually said was:

 

Jimenez reported that the daylight protests “were largely peaceful,” but the situation quickly changed at night.

“What you are seeing now, these images, came and come in stark contrast to what we saw over the course of the daytime hours in Kenosha and into the early evening, which were largely peaceful demonstrations in the face of law enforcement,” Jimenez said.

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12 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Yet what he actually said was:

 

Jimenez reported that the daylight protests “were largely peaceful,” but the situation quickly changed at night.

“What you are seeing now, these images, came and come in stark contrast to what we saw over the course of the daytime hours in Kenosha and into the early evening, which were largely peaceful demonstrations in the face of law enforcement,” Jimenez said.

You have to understand that no matter how many times James105 posts information that proves to be distorted, he's going to go back to the same sources for more. It's significant that he offered no link to the image he posted.