Am no Doctor, but I'd be amazed if Flu-VID lives in dead bodies ????

4 hours ago, webfact said:

 

Picture: Siam Rath

 

Thai media Siam Rath had the all too familiar scene from the pandemic of medics in hazmat style suits carrying a coffin for a body in a ziplock bag.

 

Ah, the trusty plastic face shields. To protect against just what, exactly? The corpse rising from the dead and poking one of them in the eye?

 

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Good info and let us never forget the goons here chose the vaccine with the lowest efficacy of any vaccine available. 

Non mRNA blessing in disguise.

3 minutes ago, BKKBike09 said:

Ah, the trusty plastic face shields. To protect against just what, exactly? The corpse rising from the dead and poking one of them in the eye?

 

Juice from a corpse doesn.t bother you then? 

3 hours ago, zzaa09 said:

Challenging, questioning or critical thought regarding the established and repeated narrative falls on deaf ears. 

As does stupidity.

On 11/29/2022 at 11:39 AM, edwinchester said:

Of course the vaccine works. Of the approx 5000 admitted to hospital at least 4000 would most likely have been vaccinated, according to Govt stats, of which 36 died so of the 1000 who were unvaccinated 38 died, a significantly higher death rate.

 

4 hours ago, cmsally said:

Died "from Covid" or died "with Covid" . There is a big difference.

and certainly no autopsy to look what's happen inside!!\

Just a note to all concerned.........I shouldn't have got involved in this thread, because I really have no time for the anti-VAX/conspiracy theorist nonsense, and I trust the professors, universities, doctors, surgeons, because after all they are the people who are responsible for looking after us, and they do a damn good job.

 

So seeing the nonsense which people post about the safety of vaccines and other YouTube nonsense and hearsay, only convinces me that I need to stay away from these sort of people because it's a bit like playing chess with a pigeon – – yes I guess you know the rest.

 

So over and out and I want to see no more of this nonsense, therefore will not be replying to any posts and will scratch this thread from my "following" list.

Good Afternoon,

 

Three things ,

1. Seems you have a lot of unvaccinated elderly people Thailand which are some of the most vulnerable.

 

2. Apparently the ones vaccinated were either with Sinovac or Sinopharm, <deleted> Chinese vaccines that should of never been allowed into Thailand to begin with.

 

3. I live just outside Korat and in my travels a lot of Thai people are thinking the worst is over and booster vaccines are not needed , Seems like you need to beef up Public Health Education in reference to Covid , Amongst other things.

5 hours ago, bulmercke said:

Funny how the officially released figures detail "vaccinated" or "unvaccinated". If you've died of covid then you've died of covid and your vaccination status shouldn't have anything to do with it unless you're trying to prove a point.

It does though, doesn't it?

I think that a lot of people getting all excited are forgetting that we are in cold and 'flu season, so there will naturally be more cases of all of them. Get jabbed, don't get jabbed, it's all a personal choice. Just do whatever you did to keep yourself healthy before all this panic started and you'll be fine. When did everything become a reason to divide people?

Funny how in the forums its more important being able to drink booze.  Or the price of booze. .  Bars opening until 4am.  Seem to be more serious than Covid and create more serious discussions. 
Sad to see what some people’s priorities are.  
 

Get Vaxed ,Yea right  they last max 3/6 months so it's an ongoing thing  Get a shot every 6 months?The covid is mutating so they have to get new vax all the time .

Forget it learn to live with it . don't the Thais say whatever happens happen.

6 hours ago, peter zwart said:

RIP to all. But vaccination wont give any guarantee. Especially now that it has become apparent that more vaccinated people die as a result of C than non-vaccinated people. 

Sorry to <deleted> your bubble, but according to the OP and Siam Rath of the 6 people who died, 4 were unvaccinated.

 

The latest victims were:

A 54 year old man who'd had 2 shots

An 84 year old man unvaccinated

A 61 year old man unvaccinated

An 89 year old woman unvaccinated

An 83 year old woman unvaccinated

A 43 year old man who'd had two shots of Sinopharm.

the     jab runs   down after a     year  and has no efficacy so keep ya jabs up to date  ,ive had 4 so far

7 hours ago, webfact said:

have only had a couple of shots and a long time since the last one.

How many do you suggest ?!!! 5,10,20 ? ????????

depends on how long you want to live ,,jabs are no big deal over the long  term

5 hours ago, FarAway said:

 

Blablabla. Typical NPC-talk.

I know several people who got more or less severely sick just from the "normal" vaccines Sinovac and Sinopharm in Thailand. One died.

 

I would love to link to a group of Spanish scientists that found a very interesting undeclared ingredient in ALL of the "COVID-vaccines". No matter which one, Pfizer, Moderna, Sinovac, Sinopharm, Sputnik. All the same undeclared ingredient.

But as it will be deleted anyway because it will be marked as "unreliable source", so I will not do it. 

If you would not blindly trust authorities, you could get these information as well. There are literally thousands of independent doctors and scientists talking about it nowadays.

 

But yeah, do what you want, get a few more shots for you and your kids, the government is your best friend ????????

I really do not bother anymore to warn people, but me personally I do not believe one word of the mouth of our ruling class, way since before COVID already.

They are all professional liars, it is their job, and their only goal is not to help us peasants but to gain more  control and influence.

 

Why should we believe you then? You offer no proof, you call many professional people liars but offer no proof, the link that you might have posted will be deleted according to you, so you won't post it.

 

You claim that an unspecified group of Spanish scientists who found that found a very interesting undeclared ingredient in ALL of the "COVID-vaccines, but you won't say what it is.

 

You claim in your words "There are literally thousands of independent doctors and scientists talking about it nowadays." but offer nothing further.

 

Yet you expect people to blindly accept your word.

 

As for your claim, "I know several people who got more or less severely sick just from the "normal" vaccines Sinovac and Sinopharm in Thailand. One died." My older neighbours grand daughter got Covid aged 14, my younger neighbour and her daughter aged 16 got Covid, my 17 year old son got Covid, All were vaccinated and all survived. My elder neighbour, 62, my wife 55 and I at 76 all vaccinated never got Covid.

 

The vaccinations were Pfizer for most of us and my wife only had 1 vaccination of Sinovac.

 

You can believe it or not, however I am not claiming anything else. 

 

You can believe whatever you want, as most other people do, and if they/I do, it is what we believe.

 

You are, but offer no proof.

5 hours ago, Sharp said:

As stated look at the ages no doubt Co morbidity is in play for 80+ age group and 3 of the unvaccinated are over the national age of normal death age. 

Biased reporting in my opinion 

The oldest Thai person in the village where I live died a couple of years ago. He was a few months past 100.

 

I am 78 and have several farangs friends in their 80s who are still alive.

 

There are lies, damn lies and statistics.

 

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7 hours ago, peter zwart said:

RIP to all. But vaccination wont give any guarantee. Especially now that it has become apparent that more vaccinated people die as a result of C than non-vaccinated people. 

Obviously. Because there are more vaccinated people now.

2 hours ago, swm59nj said:

Funny how in the forums its more important being able to drink booze.  Or the price of booze. .  Bars opening until 4am.  Seem to be more serious than Covid and create more serious discussions. 
Sad to see what some people’s priorities are.  
 

Perhaps people don't come here for serious discussion. I know I rarely have. Any mention before of lab leaks and dangerous vaccines was met with a holiday if not a ban. Board lost all credibility. It's now ultra woke so there's that as well. It's just for a laff mate.

6 hours ago, FarAway said:

 

Blablabla. Typical NPC-talk.

I know several people who got more or less severely sick just from the "normal" vaccines Sinovac and Sinopharm in Thailand. One died.

 

I would love to link to a group of Spanish scientists that found a very interesting undeclared ingredient in ALL of the "COVID-vaccines". No matter which one, Pfizer, Moderna, Sinovac, Sinopharm, Sputnik. All the same undeclared ingredient.

But as it will be deleted anyway because it will be marked as "unreliable source", so I will not do it. 

If you would not blindly trust authorities, you could get these information as well. There are literally thousands of independent doctors and scientists talking about it nowadays.

 

But yeah, do what you want, get a few more shots for you and your kids, the government is your best friend ????????

I really do not bother anymore to warn people, but me personally I do not believe one word of the mouth of our ruling class, way since before COVID already.

They are all professional liars, it is their job, and their only goal is not to help us peasants but to gain more  control and influence.

 

Most popular "undeclared ingredient" in COVID vaccines is a nanochip designed by Bill Gates, for unknown reasons. According to social media, where everyone can find information that fits their own confirmation biases.

Bill Gates actually predicted COVID back in 2016. He had no idea how many nutters it would spawn.

I vaccinated just to ensure freedom of travel.  I will not be getting any further shots unless it is absolutely necessary to ensure I can travel.  Freedom of movement, not fear of dying is my chosen canary in the coal mine.

3 hours ago, BKKBike09 said:

Ah, the trusty plastic face shields. To protect against just what, exactly? The corpse rising from the dead and poking one of them in the eye?

 

Bring out your dead.????????

5 hours ago, Phulublub said:

Would that be the same Goons who only gave the vaccines they were initially able to source to the local population, but as soon as the Western vaccines were available, foreigners were pretty much put at the front of the queue?

 

(And why was it a huge proportion of the World was so low on vaccine availability?  Oh yes - so that the developed west could pick and choose and have multiple vaccines available for their own populations.)

 

PH

You forget the details. The US donated a huge amount of Pfizer and Moderna. Under one condition. Expats would get priority. This was not done out of the goodness of the hearts of the dinosaur goon squad. 

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Holy sh*t, are people still going on with that "WITH covid, not FROM covid" bs? Ignorance is truly rampant these days.

 

There is now data from hundreds, if not thousands of millions of people both vacinated and not, and from those who have died WHILE having covid. And the indisputable fact is that UNVACCINATED people have a far higher risk of dieing WHILE having covid than VACCINATED people. Irrespective of whether they died FROM or just WITH it:

 

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-to-compare-covid-deaths-for-vaccinated-and-unvaccinated-people/

 

How do you armchair virologists, epidemiologists and know-it-alls explain this?

 

Give us a break already with your moronic, half-baked "theories".

3 minutes ago, Dalewhatdale said:

Holy sh*t, are people still going on with that "OF covid, not WITH covid"? Ignorance is truly rampant these days.

 

There is now data from hundreds, if not thousands of millions of people who have died WHILE having covid. And the indisputable fact is that UNVACCINATED people have a far higher risk of dieing WHILE having covid than VACCINATED people. Irrespective of whether they died OF or WITH it:

 

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-to-compare-covid-deaths-for-vaccinated-and-unvaccinated-people/

 

How do you armchair virologists, epidemiologists and know-it-alls explain this?

 

Give us a break already with your moronic, half-baked "theories".

Another interesting statistic to come out of the US is the comparison of death rates from COVID in the so-called "red" states ( Republican ) against the "blue" states. Higher in the red states, the result of economic ideology over fact-based science.

8 hours ago, peter zwart said:

RIP to all. But vaccination wont give any guarantee. Especially now that it has become apparent that more vaccinated people die as a result of C than non-vaccinated people. 

Lol, of course. There are a LOT more vaccinated people. You have to look at death RATES in each group, and its immediately evident to anyone with half a brain that UNvaccinated people are dieing more.

Vaccination doesn't give a 100% guarantee (very few medical interventions do, but most are better than the alternative), but it decreases your risk of dieing from/with covid by a lot.

If anything is closer to giving some kind of guarantee (of dieing from/with covid), that's being UNvaccinated.

 

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths-by-vaccination

https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/why-do-vaccinated-people-represent-most-covid-19-deaths-right-now/

6 minutes ago, garrya said:

I wish one day they started releasing data on how many vaccinated have died, how many underlying conditions the deceased have had, what the average age of the deceased is, ...etc instead of this nonstop scaremongering of "vaccinated" dying in droves. 

Not saying that no one is willing to disclose the list of ingredients in the shots, pharma doesn't take  responsibility for anything, no blood samples are scrutinized in jabbed individuals, autopsies results are lacking or not released, no clear data on how many jabbed people have suffered from serious side effects let alone died...

If these don't raise any concerns then nothing will. 

 

Like with any other drug or medicinal product, and particularly newly approved ones, "data on how many jabbed people have suffered from serious side effects let alone died" MUST be collected by law by each country's pharmacovigilance authorities. This data is being collected and analysed on a ongoing basis, it's the law at least in all advanced countries.