Phuket authorities introduce “red card” system for foreigners who break the law

[Foghorn]

Crimes yes , traffic violations, no 

[waders123]

Thailand wants to promote a vibrant and positive Thai Tourism approach to the world, however junior officials keep stepping up and changes laws,  rules, and making outlandish comments to the public.  This is not the way to promote tourism; constantly changing rules through media is confusing at best for Travelers new and old to Thailand.   

The top officials that DO make the laws/rules need to rein-in and put a gag order on those "junior officials and stop them from making any decisions or comments to the public.  Though, this may be a good idea, it needs to be kept internal and presented through the chain-of-command for consideration of creating the rule or law.

Until the lawmakers do this, some tourists, especially first-time tourists, will look at this calamity and just go elsewhere because they don't want any problems on their vacations.   

[spidermike007]

4 hours ago, VocalNeal said:

Seems fair to me. Break the law get a warning. Do it again....

 

Most of the known world knows about yellow and red cards. 

Seems rather arbitrary. Is breaking the law jaywalking? Urinating behind a bush in a park? There should be some established threshold. 

[NextG]

2 hours ago, Robert Tyrrell said:

Good Afternoon,

 

What are we playing football !!?? ???? , Red and Yellow cards. Doesn’t Immigration already have a black list system !!?? Seems to be a duplicate process and BIG WASTE OF RESOURCES !!!!!!!

As for foreigners behavior we are ALL humans regardless of Nationality, Color , Creed or Religion, We are certainly suppose to all  be adults correct !!?? ???? 

Finally, Thailand what  about Motorcycles no helmets , Pick up trucks full of people speeding down roadways , Drunk drivers , Corruption in the Law enforcement system.

seems to me we need to focus on EVERYBODY being responsible and stop this in my opinion is bordering on xenophobia , With foreigners always being labeled as the problem , ITS PEOPLE PERIOD!! 
An American proverb , What’s good for the goose is good for the gander !! ???? 

American proverb ????

It’s from 16th century England, at the least. 

 

 

[ukrules]

In a long list of incredibly dumb things that I've read online recently, this is the dumbest of them all.

 

Don't forget - we're all tourists even if we've been here a very long time.

 

On a diplomatic level immediate reciprocity should be introduced around the world.

 

There's no way countries will accept the inevitable torrent of deportation for misdemeanours without retaliation.

 

Also, they're going to notify the Embassy for a yellow card? What? Why?

The Embassy aren't going to give a shi.

 

Edited March 2, 2023 by ukrules

[oldestswinger]

3 hours ago, VocalNeal said:

Tourists should not visit other countries or places (Phuket) and expect to fragrantly break the laws without consequence. 

Indeed not. They should not shower - preferably for a month - before they break the law.

[Taco]

Sounds like a brilliant bit of leverage the cops can use to extort money from Farang that mess up. 

[userabcd]

Is it this type of red card?

 

 

Edited March 2, 2023 by userabcd

[Andrew Dwyer]

Just carry the “ Get out of jail free “ card.

 

[spidermike007]

One wonders if Prasansuk is attempting to pick up the mantle of the big joke, left vacated when he was fired as immigration boss, some time ago. Will he become the new foreigner hating guy at immigration?

 

This seems an extreme thing to do. I would understand red cards for known felons, or people committing serious acts of malfeasance. However, no one knows where the bar will be set, and this program would be ripe for abuse, and just more corruption. Same old, same old. Just new opportunities. 

[BritManToo]

4 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

The problem I see is this "law" will be implemented with great prejudice. Things like visiting a house of ill repute to be with unclean women or men is clearly illegal yet happens everywhere.

Not sure about 'unclean women' where ever I go they insist on a shower before and after (sometimes during).

[thairookie]

If I dispute a red card from the Immigration Department, will I be given the benefit of a VAR ?

[sandyf]

4 hours ago, whitefarang said:

I believe that Thai law applies to everyone in Thailand . For that reason alone Thais should be given cards as well  . According to my opinion .....Just plain discrimination this one !

Bit of a stupid opinion. Of course Thai law applies to everyone, but Thais cannot be deported or refused entry.

Only the delusional would prefer the Bangkok Hilton to a red card.

[pepi2005]

woooot .... not having a current driving license, next time it's a red card?

 

Seems a bit ... extreme .... to me?!

 

(not to justify driving w/o helmets or license, but...)

[Bim Smith]

5 hours ago, Mitkof Island said:

Long overdue please make it national and thin out the thousands that should have never been allowed to enter in the first place.

You know I thought the same until I got down to the snitching app. In addition why can't it apply to Thai especially the helmets. Instead of deportation how about jail. Everyone would wear a helmet then. In addition never been to a country where laws are not applied equally 

[Andycoops]

Yet again the lazy bar stewards are asking the public to do their job, instead of getting off their bottoms and actually patrolling.

 

If someone breaks the law fine them, put them in the Phuket Hilton if warranted and deport the Muppets, no need to flash cards around or should the victim ask for VAR review.

Complete keystone cops stuff from the BiB 

[Dogmatix]

How about prosecuting the Thais who rent them motorbikes without checking they have a motorbike licence and taking a copy?  

 

Whoops! That would reduce bribe income from the rental shops and the unlicensed foreing motorcyclists.

 

Also no crackdown on Thais committing similar driving misdemeanours.

Edited March 2, 2023 by Dogmatix

[Dogmatix]

None of this will have any impact on foreign criminals running call centre scams and criminal ventures, who know how to bribe the senior cops. There are still more than welcome.   

[Surasak]

3 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

I have an opinion on this.

 

Pieces of camel dung.

 

Quit Pro Quo.

 

And UK starts deporting the Thai prostitutes who marry gullible Brits and then divorce them as soon as they gain UK residency. 

 

They then resort to growing weed, using massage as a " front" to sell sex etc.

 

Let's throw them out of the UK.

They will have get in line, all the illegals arriving in boats will be a problem for the next few years.

[malone99]

6 hours ago, SoilSpoil said:

Problem is that I see a lot of locals who see 'breaking laws' as an Olympic discipline. Will they also get red and yellow cards? 

well, that's the difference. guests you can tell to f off. how hard to understand. 

in Germany asylum seekers can be declined, rape or commit numerous other violent crimes and still stay, live on social welfare and don't get deported. nice. 

[Dexxter]

Deporting and blacklisting a foreigner for not wearing a helmet is not severe enough. Those evil miscreants should face the firing squad for the crime of no helmet, for their safety of course.

[BadSpottedDog]

So, does that mean the foreigners who never break the law, have a valid driving license, ALWAYS wear helmets, follow good driving practices, and help others when needed, will get a "green card" that comes with extra privileges? Maybe like a "nice economic contributor" visa? LOL.
Sure. Punish the criminals, but reward upstanding residents!

[blazes]

I believe the Phukhet authorities will be appointing a falang experienced in the issuance of red and yellow cards to be the regulator of this system, at quite a substantial remuneration.

My sources have informed me that there is a short-list of 3, whose names apparently are:

 

Mr H. Webb

Mr M Dean

and

Mr M Clattenburg.

[digger70]

7 hours ago, MJCM said:

Isn't that red card another word for "black-listed" ?

Same sh!t different color.   ????

[RichardColeman]

Seriously, what's the point ? They'll just stop reporting to immigration

[Thingamabob]

6 hours ago, whitefarang said:

I believe that Thai law applies to everyone in Thailand . For that reason alone Thais should be given cards as well  . According to my opinion .....Just plain discrimination this one !

It's entirely for the Thais to decide  how they deal with fellow Thais, and entirely up to them how they choose to deal with foreigners. If they wish to be tougher on visitors than their own people, so be it. 

[Gandtee]

This is blatant discrimination. What about Thais committing the same offenses? What will they get other than a few baht out of pocket, if that?????

[Gandtee]

1 hour ago, malone99 said:

well, that's the difference. guests you can tell to f off. how hard to understand. 

in Germany asylum seekers can be declined, rape or commit numerous other violent crimes and still stay, live on social welfare and don't get deported. nice. 

A mite over the top methinks.

[TigerandDog]

7 hours ago, VocalNeal said:

 

It was a reference to someone suggesting that Phuket clean their own house .

 

Tourists should not visit other countries or places (Phuket) and expect to fragrantly break the laws without consequence. 

 

I have to tread carefully here lest I break my 2023 resolution for not arguing with idiots on asinine now.

please advise how one can break the law smelling nice? I think you meant to type flagrantly.

Edited March 2, 2023 by TigerandDog
spelling correction

[Sharp]

Having a licence, wearing a helmet with just shorts on driving around the island !

I'll take it no problem!