10 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Calling out the racists is stoking the flames of racial division.

 

That’s a twisted kind of logic Johnny.

The US has very serious racial tensions, so playing to the gallery (a historically black University) by calling out the racists on only one side of the racial divide is irresponsible and stokes the flames of tension in exchange for no other reason than to score brownie points and a round of applause. Pathetic stuff.

 

Not only irresponsible and cowardly, but ridiculous to suggest that a few hillbillies with confederate flags are a bigger threat to the West than the likes of Al Qaeda.

 

Almost as stupid as his comment "If you vote Trump, you ain't black". Like black people need lessons on blackness from the white liberal elites like Biden. Unbelievable stuff.

4 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

The US has very serious racial tensions, so playing to the gallery (a historically black University) by calling out the racists on only one side of the racial divide is irresponsible and stokes the flames of tension in exchange for no other reason than to score brownie points and a round of applause. Pathetic stuff.

 

Not only irresponsible and cowardly, but ridiculous to suggest that a few hillbillies with confederate flags are a bigger threat to the West than the likes of Al Qaeda.

 

Almost as stupid as his comment "If you vote Trump, you ain't black". Like black people need lessons on blackness from the white liberal elites like Biden. Unbelievable stuff.

The DOJ, FBI and DHS have the data to back up the claim as to who is and who is not the biggest threat.

 

’Hilly Billies with confederate flags’, so out of touch with reality as to be almost comical.

 

 

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The DOJ, FBI and DHS have the data to back up the claim as to who is and who is not the biggest threat.

 

’Hilly Billies with confederate flags’, so out of touch with reality as to be almost comical.

 

 

As opposed to BLM characters that burned cities before. 

7 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

As opposed to BLM characters that burned cities before. 

Yes as opposed to BLM characters.

 

 

36 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Yes as opposed to BLM characters.

 

 

Best not to mention them when you're stoking the flames of racial tension in order to score cheap political points from a mainly black audience.

 

What a guy...

 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/22/us/politics/joe-biden-black-breakfast-club.html

3 hours ago, bamnutsak said:

We're one Timothy McVeigh short of a major incident I fear.

I was on the phone that morning with an old friend in OKC when he said: Something just happened. There's been an explosion. I gotta go.

18 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Best not to mention them when you're stoking the flames of racial tension in order to score cheap political points from a mainly black audience.

 

What a guy...

 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/22/us/politics/joe-biden-black-breakfast-club.html

I do understand he’s not getting your vote, even when he has the decency to admit and apologize for his mistakes.

1 minute ago, Hanaguma said:

"Biggest domestic terror threat" is like "the winner in a one legged man race". Not much to worry about.  Back in The Day, the KKK could muster up a million men to march in Washington DC. Today they couldn't fill a minor league baseball stadium if they tried.  

 

The far more important issues of drug OD deaths, lack of mental health treatment, and family disunity are ignored. Instead, the shibboleth of the Angry White Man is trotted out again and again to scaremonger the public. It is shameful. 

Oh no.

 

More obfuscation and whataboutary.

 

it really is a thing around here.

Tug  What about BLM and ANTIFA?  What was the summer of love with the killing, burning, and looting?

11 hours ago, 2009 said:

It could possibly be considered true, if white-on-black violent crime or homocide was greater than black-on-white.

 

But the figure don't lie, maybe Biden does.

 

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/topic-pages/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls

 

No its you who lies, as black on white crimes are not terrorism. Just read the dictionary. 

9 minutes ago, thaipo7 said:

What about BLM and ANTIFA?

 

There's a word for this sort of post in a thread like this...what is it? It's on the tip of my tongue.

 

 

3 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

without specifying how many % of Americans are Muslim (it is approx 1%) see note 1, your linked statement comparing islamist extremism and right wing extremism is misleading.

if 1% of Americans are causing 20% of extremist related killings then clearly this group have a much higher propensity to commit extremist violence.

 

1)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_United_States#:~:text=Islam is the third largest,of the total U.S. population.

Are you claiming that a much larger percentage of the US population are white supremacists?  Do you have a source for that?

28 minutes ago, thaipo7 said:

Tug  What about BLM and ANTIFA?  What was the summer of love with the killing, burning, and looting?

"White supremacists commit the highest number of domestic extremist-related murders in most years, but in 2022 the percentage was unusually high: 21 of the 25 murders were linked to white supremacists, according to the ADL report."  https://www.reuters.com/world/us/white-supremacists-behind-over-80-extremism-related-us-murders-2022-2023-02-23/

 

How many people were killed by BLM and ANTIFA last year, or any year?  Remember to provide a source for your numbers.

4 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

without specifying how many % of Americans are Muslim (it is approx 1%) see note 1, your linked statement comparing islamist extremism and right wing extremism is misleading.

if 1% of Americans are causing 20% of extremist related killings then clearly this group have a much higher propensity to commit extremist violence.

 

1)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_United_States#:~:text=Islam is the third largest,of the total U.S. population.

First off, despite what most Americans believe, it still means that rightwing violence is a greater threat to Americans than is Muslim violence. 

And there's this:

 "For instance, only 9 percent of Americans overall and only 13 percent of Republicans say they “completely” agree in the necessity of taking violent actions if political leaders fail."

https://www.americansurveycenter.org/research/after-the-ballots-are-counted-conspiracies-political-violence-and-american-exceptionalism/

About 25% of the voting age population is republican. That would come to about 65 million people. So, 13% of that figure would come to about 8.4 million people. About 2 million muslims in america are of voting age. So, if you were to do the math, you would find very little difference in the likelihood of muslims or extreme right wing Republicans as being a terroristic threat. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to find a figure assaying how much more likely it would be for evangelical Christians to support violence. But given that they are more even likely than other Republicans to support such lunacy as QAnon, I don't think it's unreasonable to posit QAnon supporting evangelicals pose an even greater danger.

https://www.americansurveycenter.org/research/after-the-ballots-are-counted-conspiracies-political-violence-and-american-exceptionalism/

 

2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Biden stoking the flames of racial tension again. Like the US doesn't have enough issues surrounding race.

 

Deeply irresponsible.

Why is it always the same people….?

I’m referring to you, amongst others. 
You appear to be part of the problem… Always partisan. Always polarising. 
 

2 minutes ago, NextG said:

Why is it always the same people….?

I’m referring to you, amongst others. 
You appear to be part of the problem… Always partisan. Always polarising. 
 

I'm simply calling out the behaviour for what it is.

 

Don't shoot the messenger ????.

Just now, NextG said:

Why is it always the same people….?

I’m referring to you, amongst others. 
You appear to be part of the problem… Always partisan. Always polarising. 
 

It is usually the Biden supporters who try to divide everyone, with their hatred for Trump supporters and their belief that they are more intelligent -  nonsense of course. 

I work with a few anti-Trump supremacists, it's actually disturbing the hatred and superiority they project. Trump has the balls to say what the woke Biden supporters probably feel. 

 

Off topic post attempting to derail the thread into drug overdose deaths along with replies removed

 

A reported post on Trump also removed

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

It is usually the Biden supporters who try to divide everyone, with their hatred for Trump supporters and their belief that they are more intelligent -  nonsense of course. 

Your grievence is duly noted.

 

14 hours ago, 2009 said:

It could possibly be considered true, if white-on-black violent crime or homocide was greater than black-on-white.

 

But the figure don't lie, maybe Biden does.

 

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/topic-pages/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls

 

He was not talking solely homicide.

"homocide": Freudian slip??  ????

 

14 hours ago, Neeranam said:

What's the difference between Hispanic and Latino? 

I thought they were the same. 

 

Latino: from Latin America

Hispanic: from a Spanish speaking country

A Venn diagram would be less than 100% overlap.

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

I'm simply calling out the behaviour for what it is.

 

Don't shoot the messenger ????.

Ironic. “calling out the behaviour” is exactly what I did when writing, “Why is it always the same people…?”

10 minutes ago, NextG said:

Ironic. “calling out the behaviour” is exactly what I did when writing, “Why is it always the same people…?”

Calling out the behaviour of calling out the behaviour.

 

Ironic indeed.

2 hours ago, Neeranam said:

It is usually the Biden supporters who try to divide everyone, with their hatred for Trump supporters and their belief that they are more intelligent -  nonsense of course. 

I work with a few anti-Trump supremacists, it's actually disturbing the hatred and superiority they project. Trump has the balls to say what the woke Biden supporters probably feel. 

 

Obviously in this case it is you doing exactly what you accuse “Biden supporters” of doing. 
I see you stating that Trump has “balls” whilst Biden supporters are “woke”. Insulting and divisive. It seems by your statement that it is you who is projecting hatred. You also seem to hate that they appear more intelligent. They either are or they are not, but the fact that they appear to be seem to raise your ire. 
Then you describe them as ‘anti Trump supremacists’. More childish name calling. Hardly intelligent political analysis is it?

From someone who doesn’t involve himself in U.S politics, I am only saying what I see. It’s you, not them. 
 

 

 

14 hours ago, ozimoron said:

Name ONE (1) entity who might criticize Biden for suggesting that white supremacists are the biggest domestic terror threat.

 

Care to name a bigger domestic terror threat?

Riots.

33 minutes ago, radiochaser said:

Riots.

Like on January 6 2021?  You may have a point.

Maybe like the old Bill Murray SNL skit Quien es mas macho? Trump-haters or Biden-haters?

16 hours ago, 2009 said:

It could possibly be considered true, if white-on-black violent crime or homocide was greater than black-on-white.

 

But the figure don't lie, maybe Biden does.

 

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/topic-pages/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls

 

Why are you quoting 5 year old statistics. Can you not find anything newer?

53 minutes ago, radiochaser said:

Riots.

The January 6 hillbillies?

 

8 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

without specifying how many % of Americans are Muslim (it is approx 1%) see note 1, your linked statement comparing islamist extremism and right wing extremism is misleading.

if 1% of Americans are causing 20% of extremist related killings then clearly this group have a much higher propensity to commit extremist violence.

 

1)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_United_States#:~:text=Islam is the third largest,of the total U.S. population.

Cannot remember reading about even one significant Muslim extremist event in the USA in the last decade or so... Certainly not a current issue in the USA. Whereas white supremacists seem to be popping off all over the country.