Thai PM Candidate Faces Disqualification Bid

[Dan O]

2 hours ago, kamahele said:

Thanathorn didn't actually own shares in a media company, his mother did and the company was defunct for years and non publishing. He had sold the shares to his mother which he was able to prove. But legally,.....

No that's not completely accurate. He owned the shares but sold them to his mother on a date that was questionable and the paperwork was also not filed timely. 

[malibukid]

and the Baht is weakening 

[Chongalulu]

6 hours ago, bogs smith said:

DO IT!

 

Civil war will ensue and you will no longer be safe in your military compounds.

 

Go on, DO IT!!!

The fleeing Russians will throw their arms up in horror exclaiming " Is it me ,or have I just got the worst luck in the world!!" ???? 

[Will B Good]

12 minutes ago, Dan O said:

No that's not completely accurate. He owned the shares but sold them to his mother on a date that was questionable and the paperwork was also not filed timely. 

I thought he'd lent money to his party and it was seen as (or not seen as?) a donation and therefore he was disqualified?

[RichardColeman]

Excellent, my wife's UK asylum claim application is still pending Thailand junta doing it again

[Srikcir]

Regardless of Pita's guilt or innocence, there is a greater flaw to EC's review for candidate "suitability" that is corrosive to FREE and OPEN elections.

 

EC traditionally seems to wait until elections after results are known to it (sometimes the election results  being withheld from the public as was the case of Yingluck's elections in February 2014) before it concludes whether a candidate qualifies for public office.

 

So a party and its PM candidate can be essentially held "political hostage" after an election that gives (in two actual cases) opposing political parties advantage in formulation of a new government despite of electorate votes to the contrary.

 

In essence one might label such EC review as a coup (remember EC members did not resign subsequent to the 2014 coup that withheld public elections until 2018 nor was there any protest by EC to the NCPO's self appointed House ministers and unilateral selection of coup leader Prayut as PM), and the NCPO allowed EC members to continue in their positions with pay despite "timing out" their service terms in accordance to the Constitution.

 

If the EC truly plays an necessary role in candidate qualifications (apart from issues of what, if any, these qualifications are), it must make any adverse conclusion PRIOR to the election. Not to do so disenfranchises people's vote (ie., a stolen election).

 

As both the EC and the current PM must agree on an election date ( albeit within a constitutional time frame, ie., 60 days), there should be adequate review during that time. Even if not sufficient time, the accused should be given adequate time to go to the Courts regarding any EC adverse ruling prior to the election that would disqualify the candidat.

 

[Pink Mist]

18 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

I thought he'd lent money to his party and it was seen as (or not seen as?) a donation and therefore he was disqualified?

You would be correct sir.  In the end that, a loan issue for millions of baht, is what managed to get him removed from politics and his party dissolved.

[Zack61]

Right or wrong this is a ploy to steer the election result to exactly where it was prior to the election. I'm surprised that anyone thought there was ever a chance of change. Perhaps we were all just hoping against hope that this time it might be different? MFP can claim a moral victory but when you look at what happens in all of Thailand's neighbours (bar Malaysia) there are lots of role models of military dominance with no appetite for democracy. Thailand is just fitting in.

RIP Thailand you are being strangled to death and nothing short of a full civil war will reverse it and we know who has the bigger pistola if it ever came to that. It will make good news headlines around the world but, as in Myanmar, blood will flow in the streets and nothing good will come of it. Revolt will only tighten the military's blood thirsty grip on power.

So sad, so wrong and so predictable.

[Dan O]

32 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

I thought he'd lent money to his party and it was seen as (or not seen as?) a donation and therefore he was disqualified?

Yeah that was thrown in there too. I'm not sure what the end result was about that donation issue because a couple of the other parties had made "donations" of one sort or another. I think that's why all their regs are made of rubber so they can mould them as they need to fit the occasion 

[sambum]

1 hour ago, AustinRacing said:

Well it is the rules. He should’ve crossed his t’s and dot his I’s knowing he’d be heavily scrutinized. 

As already quoted, apparently he sold his shares to his mother ("and can prove it") probably knowing what would happen if he got this far ahead in "The Game"!

[jesimps]

7 hours ago, h90 said:

google iTV Thailand annual report...there is 2020, 2021, 2022 the company is active.
And why on earth should I be desperate? I have no dog in this fight

 "I have no dog in this fight"

 

:):):):):)

[Eric Loh]

24 minutes ago, Zack61 said:

Right or wrong this is a ploy to steer the election result to exactly where it was prior to the election. I'm surprised that anyone thought there was ever a chance of change. Perhaps we were all just hoping against hope that this time it might be different? MFP can claim a moral victory but when you look at what happens in all of Thailand's neighbours (bar Malaysia) there are lots of role models of military dominance with no appetite for democracy. Thailand is just fitting in.

RIP Thailand you are being strangled to death and nothing short of a full civil war will reverse it and we know who has the bigger pistola if it ever came to that. It will make good news headlines around the world but, as in Myanmar, blood will flow in the streets and nothing good will come of it. Revolt will only tighten the military's blood thirsty grip on power.

So sad, so wrong and so predictable.

The EC has not yet accept the case. They are doing their investigation. The next stage if case accepted will be the motion to the Constitutional Court for judgement. Still a long way to go. Don't get ahead of yourself. Not the time to sign your obituary on Thailand yet. Many things have change since last coup. 

[sambum]

1 hour ago, Dan O said:

No that's not completely accurate. He owned the shares but sold them to his mother on a date that was questionable and the paperwork was also not filed timely. 

And you know this for a fact?

[sambum]

52 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

I thought he'd lent money to his party and it was seen as (or not seen as?) a donation and therefore he was disqualified?

I think we are talking about different scenarios here - the "man of the day" has not been disqualified (Yet!)

[Mavideol]

3 hours ago, Derek B said:

Protect the Nation from what ?

SMOG hopefully. Road deaths perhaps. Foreign criminals seems unlikely.  Corruption plenty of scope there.

protect the nation from him and people like him

[jesimps]

6 hours ago, Kaopad999 said:

I can't see them letting go of power anytime soon.  And  you think it's gonna be possible to defeat a whole army?  I don't think so... 

I believe that it's going to take generations to come for Thailand to actually chnage. 


 

I said much the same to my missus when she was setting out to vote, much as I had done a couple of times in the past. I felt so sorry for her because in usual Thai fashion, she was naively optimistic. I still can't convince her of the inevitable. Mr P didn't rewrite the constitution and load up the Senate to let a small problem like losing an election get in his way.

[Jingthing]

As predictable as the <deleted>s after eating a rotten goat meat curry.

[Bangkok Barry]

7 hours ago, RandolphGB said:

They were done on this same technicality four years ago so they have had plenty of time to ensure their party is whiter than white. Surely they would know that the government would be looking for any excuse to end them. 

 

You are right. Why did he not declare his position? If he didn't then we could have a different kind of corrupt leader running the country. There can be no excuse, surely, for him not knowing that the declaration had to be made. And nor his Party. Something doesn't smell right there either.

 

I'll get my wife's take on it. She's a supporter and will probably say he doesn't have to obey a rule laid down by others. In Thai-style that makes it's someone else's fault, not that of the prospective PM.

[Kaopad999]

15 minutes ago, jesimps said:

said much the same to my missus when she was setting out to vote, much as I had done a couple of times in the past. I felt so sorry for her because in usual Thai fashion, she was naively optimistic.

I know exactly what you mean man. My girl also went out to vote for MFP whith such joy and optimism. Kinda sad to be honest when you know deeep down what the end result will be.. 

I really do wish the best for Thai people, but i think they're going to have to go through many more struggles over the coming years before things get better. 

Edited May 19, 2023 by Kaopad999

[Felton Jarvis]

6 hours ago, Skallywag said:

How does one hold share in something "inactive"? 

Their transmitter has been turned off, that does not mean the company has ceased to exist.

[James26]

7 hours ago, Purdey said:

Look, both Pita and Thanathorn knew the law or had legal advisors and ignored it thinking it wouldn’t affect them. Didn’t they know what they were up against?

Good hearts but naive thinking won’t cut it.

We don't know if there is any truth to this claim. I would imagine they would make certain to not be in a position where a claim like this can be found. Have to wait and see.

[mommysboy]

A technicality in this case really. It has to be more than just making a mistake.  

[Mavideol]

1 minute ago, James26 said:

We don't know if there is any truth to this claim. I would imagine they would make certain to not be in a position where a claim like this can be found. Have to wait and see.

agree with you, they will come up with a "REAL" reason, same as they did 4 years ago

[eisfeld]

6 hours ago, Skallywag said:

How does one hold share in something "inactive"? 

The same way that you can own your car even though it's currently not moving.

[Huckenfell]

4 hours ago, Will B Good said:

The only way the old guard can win is to promote civil unrest by banning Pitta and MF...........this will give them the excuse to move against and crush the rioters (and there will be riots)...............in this scenario the only possible winners will be..... .....the Army and the old guard............ who will restore happiness, security and stability to the Thai people.

 

You read it here first.

What confuses me is that the "ruling elite" are able to use the army to put down any revolt by the dissalusioned population when the foot soldiers being used are almost all from the very famillies who are doing the revolt. Why don't these soldiers themselves refuse to go against their families .

 

[Huckenfell]

4 hours ago, Derek B said:

Protect the Nation from what ?

SMOG hopefully. Road deaths perhaps. Foreign criminals seems unlikely.  Corruption plenty of scope there.

Invading Submarines before they get their own.

[Pink Mist]

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[Huckenfell]

3 hours ago, Derek B said:

Not really some are quite elderly now.

Thank goodness.

[billd766]

58 minutes ago, jesimps said:

 "I have no dog in this fight"

 

:):):):):)

I think that someone protests too much.

[spidermike007]

Just try it guys. It may be the last thing you ever do. The people will act, and they will act swiftly.