What do you believe happens to you when you die?

[bignok]

3 minutes ago, proton said:

Yep hallucinations, Christians have them of meeting Jesus etc, never heard muslims having the same experiences

Everyday for the next 6 months tell god what you want and see what happens. Make it a realistic and specific goal.

[scottiejohn]

9 minutes ago, proton said:

Some do, I remember being a few months old in a pram outside in the garden feeling bored.

At my age I get the same experience but I think it is called a rocking chair that I am supposed to be in!

[1FinickyOne]

15 minutes ago, bignok said:

But you won't remember the last life.

There are some well documented cases of mostly young children who have memories of being someone else in a past life, not Babe Ruth, but a little known person and the memories then check out... the few accounts I have seen are pretty credible. 

[Walker88]

16 minutes ago, bignok said:

Delusional to think your views are facts when unsupported by evidence.

Evidence?  ALL evidence suggests you get one shot at existence....and then....a return to eternal nothingness. There is a sum total of zero evidence that there is any other end. There's just wishful thinking by some.

 

You are your neurons and synapses and charged ions floating across the synapse. Your 'consciousness' exists only so long as all the parts are together and working in unison. Once they stop functioning, all that your were is gone for eternity. If I take the circuit boards out of my computer, then sandpaper the hard drive, nothing I stored on the machine is retrievable. Same with consciousness. It ceases to exist, because the physical package that it was is destroyed.

 

That makes this brief period of existence so precious.

 

I suppose some people are comforted thinking that even a person suffering dementia or Alzheimers, who has essentially disappeared---or the 'personality' they had disappears, before the other organs of the body cease to function---all of a sudden becomes cognizant and all-knowing in the instant of death, then comes back as a stand-up comedian or cockroach or amoeba, albeit with no 'memory' of the women he schtupped during his last iteration or what he had for breakfast last Tuesday.

Edited June 6, 2023 by Walker88

[bignok]

2 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Evidence?  ALL evidence suggests you get one shot at existence....and then....a return to eternal nothingness. There is a sum total of zero evidence that there is any other end. There's just wishful thinking by some.

 

You are your neurons and synapses and charged ions floating across the synapse. Your 'consciousness' exists only so long as all the parts are together and working in unison. Once they stop functioning, all that your were is gone for eternity. If I take the circuit boards out of my computer, then sandpaper the hard drive, nothing I stored on the machine is retrievable. Same with consciousness. It ceases to exist, because the physical package that it was is destroyed.

 

That makes this brief period of existence so precious.

 

I suppose some people are comforted thinking that even a person suffering dementia or Alzheimers, who has essentially disappeared---or the 'personality' they had disappears, before the other organs of the body cease to function---all of a sudden becomes cognizant and all-knowing in the instant of death, then comes back as a stand-up comedian or cockroach or amoeba, albeit with no 'memory' of the women he schtupped during his last iteration or what he had for breakfast last Tuesday.

I see no evidence presented.

[scottiejohn]

12 minutes ago, ICU Kid said:

PCR test up your nose before being admitted into heaven or hell.

Is "PCR" a Pre Christ Receiving test or Post Cremation Return?

[bignok]

2 minutes ago, 1FinickyOne said:

There are some well documented cases of mostly young children who have memories of being someone else in a past life, not Babe Ruth, but a little known person and the memories then check out... the few accounts I have seen are pretty credible. 

Who would you want to be? I'd choose Jesus.

[Moonlover]

1 hour ago, bignok said:

1 hour ago, Moonlover said:

 

 

My own belief is that I am vey similar to the computer that I'm typing on right now. My brain is the CPU and my mind consists of all the 'stuff' that's in the memory and gives the CPU something to do.

 

1 hour ago, bignok said:

Do computers feel love, hate, joy?

No of course they don't, but the fact that we do (or at least are capable of it) does not provide any evidence that we survive beyond our mortal death.

[scottiejohn]

3 hours ago, NoDisplayName said:

The contract doesn't explicitly say "female," nor "human."

Not now in in these woke times!

[scottiejohn]

10 minutes ago, bignok said:

tell god

Which/whose "God"?

 

PS; maybe just try all the ones you can think of!

Edited June 6, 2023 by scottiejohn
PS added

[bignok]

4 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Which/whose "God"?

 

PS; maybe just try all the ones you can think of!

Tell the universe. Look at the sky.

[daveAustin]

Nothingness or an ethereal bliss. Just don't bring me back if it's more of this, ff.s! ????

[ICU Kid]

9 minutes ago, bignok said:

I see no evidence presented.

I think we're allowed to disagree & state our beliefs on this thread : )

 

No  "source?" or "misinformation!" type comments should be allowed ; )

[1FinickyOne]

10 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

all of a sudden becomes cognizant and all-knowing in the instant of death, then comes back as a stand-up comedian or cockroach or amoeba,

Well, what about the possibility of arriving somewhere else? The universe is vast and we know so little. If existence continues on in another place or form it is likely something that we cannot imagine... like what does it feel like when 2 amoebas shtup each other? And how many people on this forum know what shtupping means? 

[bignok]

Just now, 1FinickyOne said:

Well, what about the possibility of arriving somewhere else? The universe is vast and we know so little. If existence continues on in another place or form it is likely something that we cannot imagine... like what does it feel like when 2 amoebas shtup each other? And how many people on this forum know what shtupping means? 

Shut up badly spelt?

[1FinickyOne]

12 minutes ago, bignok said:

Who would you want to be? I'd choose Jesus.

The carpenter? Or the Buddhist monk version? I think maybe we go on to be somethhing else, something we cannot imagine in the same way we cannot comprehend infinity.

[scottiejohn]

4 minutes ago, ICU Kid said:

No  "source?" or "misinformation!" type comments should be allowed ; )

Only from "God" surely!

[1FinickyOne]

2 minutes ago, bignok said:

Shut up badly spelt?

That would be correct if I was trying to spell shut up - I was responding to someone who used the word shtup which is a Yiddish word that means 'my baby does the hanky panky' 

[ArnieP]

1 hour ago, scottiejohn said:

And finding yourself back with same first ex wife, or whatever!  (insert as required)!

A total nightmare!

[scottiejohn]

6 minutes ago, 1FinickyOne said:

Well, what about the possibility of arriving somewhere else?

Either use GRAB or BOLT instead!

Edited June 6, 2023 by scottiejohn

[bignok]

Edward Feser

Five Proofs of the Existence of God

 

Meant to be a good read

[bignok]

4 minutes ago, 1FinickyOne said:

The carpenter? Or the Buddhist monk version? I think maybe we go on to be somethhing else, something we cannot imagine in the same way we cannot comprehend infinity.

Monk version. Travel to Ko Samui and back to Rome.

[scottiejohn]

23 minutes ago, bignok said:

Who would you want to be? I'd choose Jesus.

What! And be killed on a cross according to the stories?

 

 

Edited June 6, 2023 by scottiejohn

[daveAustin]

Just don't go out in despair or hate. If there are ghosts walking the earth, it would seem more likely ending up as one as opposed to accepting it and moving on...

 

... if either is a 'thing' of course.

[scottiejohn]

1 minute ago, bignok said:

Monk version. Travel to Ko Samui and back to Rome.

Monk version. Travel to Ko Samui and back to rome Pattaya!

[spidermike007]

4 hours ago, 2baht said:

If you're a Muslim, 76 virgins!

I believe the virgin orgy is reserved for terrorists. Not sure normal people want, nor get that. And what on earth is the virgin appeal all about? I prefer an experienced woman! 

[Moonlover]

1 hour ago, scottiejohn said:

1 hour ago, Moonlover said:

It's amazing what a vivid imagination can do. Thanks, but I'll save my $12.99 for something a little more practical (that I can't take with me when I go ????)

 

1 hour ago, scottiejohn said:

Is  $12.99 the cost of a return ticket to earth?

I've no idea. You'd better ask @sirineou about that.

[bignok]

8 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

What! And be killed on a cross according to the stories?

 

 

Then rise to heaven to drink beers with dad, play video games ie control the world.

[Pouatchee]

42 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

Unfortunately, I think these are explained by the person being "technically dead" but having part of their brain still alive.

thanks chatgpt

as my opening states

[BangkokReady]

6 minutes ago, Pouatchee said:

thanks chatgpt

as my opening states

I realise it was generated by AI.