On 7/30/2023 at 7:24 AM, scottiejohn said:

Not necessarily! There are many reasons to close and sell and not just because of failure!

Owner may have family problems and needs to move on.

Police may have banned the owner.

Owner may have died.

Owner may have moved to another bar etc!

 

No more reasons??

Here is one:

Owner is fed up with all these filthy prostitutes full of STD and tired of filthy lonely losers longing for booze to forget their misery? 😳

Just now, Expat68 said:

If I ever go to a girlie bar which is rare, I just say would you like a drink or 100 baht while you have a chat with me. They always say 100 baht

Yes we see that comment a lot... and if it works out it is the best result for both parties. Reality is, bars are well wise to this and the bar will not let them remain there without a purchase of an LD.  Then she has to get up to go dance in a GGB!🥲

50 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Yes we see that comment a lot... and if it works out it is the best result for both parties. Reality is, bars are well wise to this and the bar will not let them remain there without a purchase of an LD.  Then she has to get up to go dance in a GGB!🥲

People who post that they give ladies cash rather than buy a drink invariably are not in Pattaya.

Maybe this reflects the reduced numbers of English-speaking farangs visiting Thailand. Offshore workers, for example. I don't think many Chinese, Indians, or Muslims visit beer bars. but.... 

On 10/15/2024 at 5:04 PM, scubascuba3 said:

You don't even understand simple well known sentences, I'll try and keep it simple for you, couldn't care less how often you leave

Thanks but no need for all of that.

 

Just decipher your post I quoted.

9 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

No more reasons??

Here is one:

Owner is fed up with all these filthy prostitutes full of STD and tired of filthy lonely losers longing for booze to forget their misery? 😳

That's two.

9 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

No more reasons??

Here is one:

Owner is fed up with all these filthy prostitutes full of STD and tired of filthy lonely losers longing for booze to forget their misery? 😳

 

Boozed up lonely losers sharing their life with filthy prostitutes with STD is what Pattaya Great....

Any bar owner is lucky to have such refined clientele...

 

On 10/16/2024 at 12:00 PM, VBF said:

Part of the business model is that they get a basic wage and work for the rest. The girls know that when they take the job.

Bit like a salesman getting a meagre salary and earning commission on his sales to make it reasonable.

I  regards that as  encouraging prostitution, 

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48 minutes ago, Jumbo1968 said:

On 10/16/2024 at 12:00 PM, VBF said:

Part of the business model is that they get a basic wage and work for the rest. The girls know that when they take the job.

Bit like a salesman getting a meagre salary and earning commission on his sales to make it reasonable.

I  regards that as  encouraging prostitution, 

Me too - great isn't it  👍😎

But actually, encouraging the ladies to work for drinks is not prostitution - what may happen later is between consenting adults.

Let's be honest here, legal or not, that is what most bars in Pattaya are all about and always have been.

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17 hours ago, Jumbo1968 said:

I  regards that as  encouraging prostitution, 

Haha, funny way of putting it. It is part of the business model and they profit from it. There are words some use for the bar owners but that is the game they are in!

1 minute ago, jacko45k said:

Haha, funny way of putting it. It is part of the business model and they profit from it. There are words some use for the bar owners but that is the game they are in!

 

If the girls find all farang irresistible very sexy men that they desire.....Then its not prostitution.......

And sure they may need a bit of money to pay the rent, but thats more of a donation than a fee.....

14 hours ago, redwood1 said:

 

If the girls find all farang irresistible very sexy men that they desire.....Then its not prostitution.......

And sure they may need a bit of money to pay the rent, but thats more of a donation than a fee.....

I've heard it said by more than a few, back in the day when LT was the thing, that the money you pay them is not for services rendered but to get them to leave in the morning.

3 hours ago, Hanuman2547 said:

I've heard it said by more than a few, back in the day when LT was the thing, that the money you pay them is not for services rendered but to get them to leave in the morning.

 

"I don't pay her for sex;  I pay her to leave in the morning."   

 

That quote, or a variation of it, has been attributed in recent years to Charlie Sheen.   I heard it a long time ago attributed to Jack Nicholson.  Even earlier, Clark Gable was given credit for it.  There have been numerous others as well.    https://quoteinvestigator.com/2020/01/15/pay/'

 

To put the quote in a Thai context, some background is needed.  When the U.S. began deploying aircraft and Air Force personnel to Don Muang Airport in Bangkok in 1961,  some hotels offered Sunday "tea dances" (!) where U.S. military could meet Thai women.  These dances were very staid affairs, with the Thai women dressed in their best clothes and on their best behavior.  Most were not professional prostitutes,  but good girls who wanted a U.S. husband.  They were looking for a relationship, not money for sex.  

 

The informal "rules"  that developed for encounters between U.S military personnel and Thai women dictated that if  the man accepted a woman as a girlfriend, he would support her "Asian style," including some money for her family.  However, if he didn't want to see her beyond the first night, he would discretely slip her some cash, placing it under her clothes or purse without explanation.   That fed into the illusion she was not a prostitute.  

 

The "custom" of paying the girl after the act rather than before held as the bar scene took over from tea dances () when thousands of U.S. military were stationed in Thailand and tens of thousands visited Bangkok on week-long R & R trips during the Viet Nam War.   That's why it's still customary today for men who find girls in farang-orieted bars in Thailand to pay after the fact.  Thailand is one of the very few places in the world where you can take a girl home and pay her the morning after.

8 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

"I don't pay her for sex;  I pay her to leave in the morning."   

 

That quote, or a variation of it, has been attributed in recent years to Charlie Sheen.   I heard it a long time ago attributed to Jack Nicholson.  Even earlier, Clark Gable was given credit for it.  There have been numerous others as well.    https://quoteinvestigator.com/2020/01/15/pay/'

 

To put the quote in a Thai context, some background is needed.  When the U.S. began deploying aircraft and Air Force personnel to Don Muang Airport in Bangkok in 1961,  some hotels offered Sunday "tea dances" (!) where U.S. military could meet Thai women.  These dances were very staid affairs, with the Thai women dressed in their best clothes and on their best behavior.  Most were not professional prostitutes,  but good girls who wanted a U.S. husband.  They were looking for a relationship, not money for sex.  

 

The informal "rules"  that developed for encounters between U.S military personnel and Thai women dictated that if  the man accepted a woman as a girlfriend, he would support her "Asian style," including some money for her family.  However, if he didn't want to see her beyond the first night, he would discretely slip her some cash, placing it under her clothes or purse without explanation.   That fed into the illusion she was not a prostitute.  

 

The "custom" of paying the girl after the act rather than before held as the bar scene took over from tea dances () when thousands of U.S. military were stationed in Thailand and tens of thousands visited Bangkok on week-long R & R trips during the Viet Nam War.   That's why it's still customary today for men who find girls in farang-orieted bars in Thailand to pay after the fact.  Thailand is one of the very few places in the world where you can take a girl home and pay her the morning after.

 

Wow cool I did not know this.......

 

The rare times a bar has tried to pull the pay first thing with farangs in Thailand......It has not gone well for the bar......This is one thing almost all farang agree with, and STRONGLY enforce.....To never pay first.....

 

 

13 minutes ago, redwood1 said:

The rare times a bar has tried to pull the pay first thing with farangs in Thailand......It has not gone well for the bar......This is one thing almost all farang agree with, and STRONGLY enforce.....To never pay first.....

Strangely, Bamboo which is very popular with the elderly gets them to pay first

6 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Strangely, Bamboo which is very popular with the elderly gets them to pay first

Pardon?

I've been to the Bamboo many times - the women in there are all freelancers so the Bamboo has no say in what happens - no lady drinks or bar fines.

What the Bamboo does do is take payment for drinks as you go i.e., no bar tabs.

Is that what you meant?

19 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Strangely, Bamboo which is very popular with the elderly gets them to pay first

Always thought they were freelancers in there.