Would you ever marry a bar girl? If so, why?

[brewsterbudgen]

2 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

But how does one know if a marriage is successful without living with them 24/7? You don't, and neither does anyone else besides their counselor if they have one. Only a professional counselor that listens to both sides, AND if both sides are truthful, can know what's going on and if they can help. Having a big house, two cars, gold, clothes, kids in good schools, etc, doesn't mean people are really happy, nor does a fake smile. Just saying.

That's true.  I can only speak from my own experience.  Happily married for 7 years, and our anniversary happens to be today. ????

[fredwiggy]

2 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

That's true.  I can only speak from my own experience.  Happily married for 7 years, and our anniversary happens to be today. ????

Congrats!

[Kwasaki]

26 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I'm not worked up. I hate human traffickers for an obvious reason, and a lot of prostitution worldwide involves them, along with children. It's not a presumption when I say you shouldn't cheat on someone you say you love. if you want to get laid by other than your wife, divorce her so she can find a faithful man, period. Then you can buy all the sex you want and not hurt anyone besides the possibility of spreading a disease you or someone else might not get rid of, or die from. That's not just moral, that's common sense.  Because there are millions of men that do this doesn't make it right. Millions of people followed Hitler, Putin, Stalin and others like him, and were duped into believing they were right, all because they might have had some good ideas about other things. Following others bad habits means exactly that. Being moral is the first thing you do in a marriage. I don't care if this is a dialogue or not. I post things to join in a topic. I don't make opinions as they really are meaningless. Facts are facts, and that's what I go by. I never said people don't care about their wives if they loved them. It's possible to love someone and cheat on them. It's just childish thinking and wrong. What if they did it to you? How would you feel? There ar people who have open marriages, which is a sham, but they share partners because they think it's more exciting to have sex with more than one. Try being single instead. Plenty of single women a person can buy or dupe into having sex a few times. if you want a permanent partner, you don't do them wrong, period.

You do realise not everyone is the same.

[fredwiggy]

Just now, Kwasaki said:

You do realise not everyone is the same.

Which is a good thing, but what's your point?

[Kwasaki]

6 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

That's true.  I can only speak from my own experience.  Happily married for 7 years, and our anniversary happens to be today. ????

The 7 year inch. ????

[Kwasaki]

Just now, fredwiggy said:

Which is a good thing, but what's your point?

Your moral guidance on being faithful because your married.

Love and sex can be very different for men and you can be careful.

[fredwiggy]

1 minute ago, Kwasaki said:

Your moral guidance on being faithful because your married.

Love and sex can be very different for men and you can be careful.

I was married. Girlfriend now. Moral means moral, no but maybes. There is a right way and a wrong way. Many choose the wrong way because it's easier, or that they think they deserve things because they're ego says they do. When you're in a relationship that both consider exclusive, that's what you do. If you want others, you stay single. Really simple.

[Kwasaki]

5 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I was married. Girlfriend now. Moral means moral, no but maybes. There is a right way and a wrong way. Many choose the wrong way because it's easier, or that they think they deserve things because they're ego says they do. When you're in a relationship that both consider exclusive, that's what you do. If you want others, you stay single. Really simple.

Well not always that simple with many years within marriages but fair call.

[Hummin]

23 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Your moral guidance on being faithful because your married.

Love and sex can be very different for men and you can be careful.

If neither satisfied is it ok the woman finds a lover as well? 

 

If I could not perform anymore, should I accept my wife have another lover? Delicate question and situation I believe many could face in a long lasting relationship, especially with an younger wife.

 

How to spice up a long lasting marriage? For sure it will take some dedication feom both parts. 

 

Why do a woman die sexually, and why do a man loose interest in their womon, or the other way? 

 

 

[YITB1980]

On 8/8/2023 at 1:58 PM, fredwiggy said:

It makes a difference now and in your future, and possibly your children's thinking, and their children. Although in a hundred years, and maybe half that, we might not have any more food to feed the population anyway.

So, my great grandkids will have the details on how (and with whom) I spent my time?

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, Kwasaki said:

Your moral guidance on being faithful because your married.

Love and sex can be very different for men and you can be careful.

Morality is a regional variable!

So it would depend on where and whom you married.

Not every culture and religion demands fidelity.

 

In Thailand men aren't required to only bang their wife, but wives are required to only bang their husband. (The wife being the property of the husband).

 

Edited August 9, 2023 by BritManToo

[Hummin]

4 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Morality is a regional variable!

So it would depend on where and whom you married.

Not every culture and religion demands fidelity.

 

In Thailand men aren't required to only bang their wife, but wives are required to only bang their husband. (The wife being the property of the husband).

 

I guess for those who believe that will face problems especially being a foreigner coming to Thailand and treating their wives as their property even they paying for everything.

 

Good luck

[fredwiggy]

17 minutes ago, YITB1980 said:

So, my great grandkids will have the details on how (and with whom) I spent my time?

Someone always talks

[BritManToo]

7 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Someone always talks

Loose lips sink ships!

Don't tell anyone who you are, where you are, what you're doing and with whom you're doing it.

My 4 former kids in the UK, know I have a Thai wife, but they will never be allowed to visit us, meet her or their younger Thai brother, and I don't talk with them either.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 8/9/2023 at 11:01 AM, OneMoreFarang said:

Obviously you are different.

 

Maybe one day you will learn that the right girl can also make you happy the other 23h a day when you don't have sex.

I had 2 partners and neither made me happy after the first couple of years. They also cut off the rumpty.

I was so stupid I didn't kick them to touch soon as that happened. Like a fool I kept thinking they might change back to the women I fell in love with- of course they didn't.

[thaibeachlovers]

17 hours ago, Hummin said:

If neither satisfied is it ok the woman finds a lover as well? 

 

If I could not perform anymore, should I accept my wife have another lover? Delicate question and situation I believe many could face in a long lasting relationship, especially with an younger wife.

 

How to spice up a long lasting marriage? For sure it will take some dedication feom both parts. 

 

Why do a woman die sexually, and why do a man loose interest in their womon, or the other way? 

 

 

I assumed my partners ( both of them ) would play away, so I just told them that if they did that to use a condom and not tell me.

I have no faith in people being monogamous.

 

If I could not perform anymore, should I accept my wife have another lover?

LOL. Are you not aware of all the other ways a guy can make love without having an erection, or do you only have sex with women that only do intercourse?

[fredwiggy]

15 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Loose lips sink ships!

Don't tell anyone who you are, where you are, what you're doing and with whom you're doing it.

My 4 former kids in the UK, know I have a Thai wife, but they will never be allowed to visit us, meet her or their younger Thai brother, and I don't talk with them either.

A word or two of advice. Those are still your kids, and they can see you whenever they want if they have cell phones. They can visit you when they are old enough to travel alone, if that's not already the case, and kids, no matter what happened between you and your ex, usually want a relationship with the other side, even if they have been brainwashed for years. When they reach adult age, they know relationships go sour, and people lie. I'm also sure they would like to know their half brother and step mother also. One of mine is estranged from me because of her mom, and she doesn't talk much with her siblings because of this. Eventually they remember the truth, and will want a relationship. Some are bitter for many years because of lies told, but when they have kids of their own, they understand how hard parenting is and what we went through. Nothing wrong with having more family, especially your kids.

[thaibeachlovers]

17 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

I was married. Girlfriend now. Moral means moral, no but maybes. There is a right way and a wrong way. Many choose the wrong way because it's easier, or that they think they deserve things because they're ego says they do. When you're in a relationship that both consider exclusive, that's what you do. If you want others, you stay single. Really simple.

Being in a relationship also entails a responsibility to have sex with the other. If one stops, IMO they have no dedication to their partner and deserve to have them play away.

If they don't want to please their partner stay single. Really simple.

[fredwiggy]

8 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I had 2 partners and neither made me happy after the first couple of years. They also cut off the rumpty.

I was so stupid I didn't kick them to touch soon as that happened. Like a fool I kept thinking they might change back to the women I fell in love with- of course they didn't.

People don't change much after around 30. What you had before was what they are. If a woman is neglected and not listened to, they get pissed, and turn off the "rumpty", or at the least do it begrudgingly. A lot will give you sex until they have you hooked because they see money. It's pretty easy to tell a person between 6 months to a year. they can't hide themselves forever. After a couple of years you saw things but might have let them slide, though red flags are always there. It's not about being stupid but desire for them.

[thaibeachlovers]

6 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

A word or two of advice. Those are still your kids, and they can see you whenever they want if they have cell phones. They can visit you when they are old enough to travel alone, if that's not already the case, and kids, no matter what happened between you and your ex, usually want a relationship with the other side, even if they have been brainwashed for years. When they reach adult age, they know relationships go sour, and people lie. I'm also sure they would like to know their half brother and step mother also. One of mine is estranged from me because of her mom, and she doesn't talk much with her siblings because of this. Eventually they remember the truth, and will want a relationship. Some are bitter for many years because of lies told, but when they have kids of their own, they understand how hard parenting is and what we went through. Nothing wrong with having more family, especially your kids.

You reckon his kids will just turn up in Thailand and wander around asking people if they know Mr Soandso?

I doubt he's given them his address or phone number.

[fredwiggy]

3 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Being in a relationship also entails a responsibility to have sex with the other. If one stops, IMO they have no dedication to their partner and deserve to have them play away.

If they don't want to please their partner stay single. Really simple.

If you continue to date and romance your partner, they usually want to make love, IF they are normal thinking and not just in it for the cash. Pleasing goes both ways. I always think of my partner before me. It means more to me that they are satisfied. Damaged goods are very hard to keep happy. Holding grudges from childhood hurts future relationships. Some never let things go so it's best to move on because they might never be happy, and that's mostly their job anyway.

[fredwiggy]

Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

You reckon his kids will just turn up in Thailand and wander around asking people if they know Mr Soandso?

I doubt he's given them his address or phone number.

It's very easy to find people these days, unless they live in a tropical rain forest. Being on the grid you leave trails. People talk. Of course he can make the first move.

[thaibeachlovers]

4 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

People don't change much after around 30. What you had before was what they are. If a woman is neglected and not listened to, they get pissed, and turn off the "rumpty", or at the least do it begrudgingly. A lot will give you sex until they have you hooked because they see money. It's pretty easy to tell a person between 6 months to a year. they can't hide themselves forever. After a couple of years you saw things but might have let them slide, though red flags are always there. It's not about being stupid but desire for them.

Agree with some of that. Both partners and I were over 30 when we moved in together.

First one I was desperate, second one I thought Thai women were different. Where was Batman when I need him?

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

4 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

If you continue to date and romance your partner, they usually want to make love, IF they are normal thinking and not just in it for the cash. Pleasing goes both ways. I always think of my partner before me. It means more to me that they are satisfied. Damaged goods are very hard to keep happy. Holding grudges from childhood hurts future relationships. Some never let things go so it's best to move on because they might never be happy, and that's mostly their job anyway.

I always tried to make my partner happy when doing the dance, but I noticed that no matter how many times I made them "happy" I never got any Brownie points for doing so.

[hotandsticky]

5 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I always tried to make my partner happy when doing the dance, but I noticed that no matter how many times I made them "happy" I never got any Brownie points for doing so.

Positive Brownie points are a figment of the male imagination.

 

It always seemed to me that Brownie points could only ever be lost.......................

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

Just now, hotandsticky said:

Positive Brownie points are a figment of the male imagination.

 

It always seemed to me that Brownie points could only ever be lost.......................

 

 

How true!

[fredwiggy]

17 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I always tried to make my partner happy when doing the dance, but I noticed that no matter how many times I made them "happy" I never got any Brownie points for doing so.

Always give without any expectation of a return. If they don't do it on their own, then you know what selfish is. Then you find one not selfish. That's where the most important thing in a relationship besides mutual trust comes out. Communication. Asking for what you want, asking them what they want. Talking about everything to become closer. The most important thing a woman wants, besides being able to trust their partner, is to be heard. Men have a hard time actually listening, without being distracted or not caring enough to understand what she is saying.

[Hummin]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I assumed my partners ( both of them ) would play away, so I just told them that if they did that to use a condom and not tell me.

I have no faith in people being monogamous.

 

If I could not perform anymore, should I accept my wife have another lover?

LOL. Are you not aware of all the other ways a guy can make love without having an erection, or do you only have sex with women that only do intercourse?

If I could not perform anymore, Im not sure I would be interested at all, and it takes a passionate partner to manage to turn on a partner right. Im not there yet, and if so happens the other way, she is not interested anymore, then I would think about my options without leaving her, afterall she is my best friend, and the one I like to spend my time with. 

 

 

[Hummin]

4 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

If you continue to date and romance your partner, they usually want to make love, IF they are normal thinking and not just in it for the cash. Pleasing goes both ways. I always think of my partner before me. It means more to me that they are satisfied. Damaged goods are very hard to keep happy. Holding grudges from childhood hurts future relationships. Some never let things go so it's best to move on because they might never be happy, and that's mostly their job anyway.

Happy wife, Happy life

[Hummin]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Being in a relationship also entails a responsibility to have sex with the other. If one stops, IMO they have no dedication to their partner and deserve to have them play away.

If they don't want to please their partner stay single. Really simple.

As much as being a sexual partner, friendship is important, and being a friend with a woman, takes effort and interest in each other sharing daily life and make the best out of what you build together, and also share interests. A marriage or any relationships takes effort and work to maintain.