Pheu Thai closing in on a House majority, Senate an open question

[snoop1130]

 

Pheu Thai appears to be getting close to commanding a majority in Thailand’s 500-seat House of Representatives House.

 

Pheu Thai gained momentum when the Bhumjaithai party, of Anutin Charnvirakul, which won 70 House seat, appeared at a joint press conference to declare that they would be at the core of forming the governing coalition.

 

Combined, the two parties initially commanded 212 House, plus another 16 held by the Prachachat, Thai Liberal, Chart Pattana Kla, Pheu Thai Rumphalang, Plung Sungkom Mai and Thongthee Thai parties, bringing the current total to 228.

 

Full Story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/pheu-thai-closing-in-on-a-house-majority-senate-an-open-question/

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2023-08-11

 

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[dinsdale]

The closer they get the more votes they will lose at the next election. They have betrayed their voter base. They are no longer a people's party. They are now in bed with the elitists. Doesn't matter what populists things they come up with this betrayal will not be forgiven. 

[greg71]

 

[pegman]

46 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

The closer they get the more votes they will lose at the next election. They have betrayed their voter base. They are no longer a people's party. They are now in bed with the elitists. Doesn't matter what populists things they come up with this betrayal will not be forgiven. 

That's completely ridiculous. Have you ever voted for the winning party and then been mad that they won?

[mfd101]

1 minute ago, pegman said:

That's completely ridiculous. Have you ever voted for the winning party and then been mad that they won?

You're ignoring the probability that many of those who voted for PTP - particularly in Isaan - thought they were voting for a reformist party who would look after the poor of Thailand. The more compromises they make with the dinosaurs and near-dinosaurs to gain power, the more they betray those voter expectations.

[ikke1959]

Government with every party except MFP... .What goods can that bring??

Edited August 11, 2023 by ikke1959

[eisfeld]

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BREAKING: Sources say Pheu Thai Party has formed a grand coalition with 11 other parties, including the two pro-junta parties, Phalang Pracharath and United Thai Nation Party with 315 MPs

So that's Prayut and Prawit. Exactly the opposite of what their voter base wanted. They wanted change. Now they got more of the same.

 

Pheu Thai just signed away their future in exchange for Thaksin to be allowed back. I have a hard time seeing this working out for them in the long term but who cares, their master got what he wanted.

Edited August 11, 2023 by eisfeld

[still kicking]

19 minutes ago, eisfeld said:

So that's Prayut and Prawit. Exactly the opposite of what their voter base wanted. They wanted change. Now they got more of the same.

 

Pheu Thai just signed away their future in exchange for Thaksin to be allowed back. I have a hard time seeing this working out for them in the long term but who cares, their master got what he wanted.

I have thousands of Thai friends who all voted for MFP they are all disgusted 

[hotchilli]

4 hours ago, eisfeld said:

I have a hard time seeing this working out for them in the long term but who cares, their master got what he wanted.

I'm only a long term guest here, watching Thailand squabble in government is laughable... 

[dinsdale]

9 hours ago, pegman said:

That's completely ridiculous. Have you ever voted for the winning party and then been mad that they won?

So you think PT voters are happy that their party is now in league with those they wanted ousted?

[pegman]

9 hours ago, mfd101 said:

You're ignoring the probability that many of those who voted for PTP - particularly in Isaan - thought they were voting for a reformist party who would look after the poor of Thailand. The more compromises they make with the dinosaurs and near-dinosaurs to gain power, the more they betray those voter expectations.

The people of Issan knew exactly who they were voting for. Thaksin, whose parties have won every legit election since 2001. I think it is the Junta coalition party's voters who will be more upset at their members for voting in a PTP member as PM. 

[pegman]

22 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

So you think PT voters are happy that their party is now in league with those they wanted ousted?

Yes as it is generally better to win than lose. 

[dinsdale]

53 minutes ago, pegman said:

Yes as it is generally better to win than lose. 

The winners lost and the losers once again win. 

Edited August 12, 2023 by dinsdale

[Eric Loh]

31 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

The winners lost and the losers once again win. 

Like it happened with TRT and PTP when they won landslide but still lost in the end. Finally you understand the Thailand political shenanigan. Well done. 

[dinsdale]

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

Like it happened with TRT and PTP when they won landslide but still lost in the end. Finally you understand the Thailand political shenanigan. Well done. 

I have been here for 20 years which obviously includes both the 2006 and 2014 coups and the bent 2019 election and it's aftermath which saw the junta 'legitimise' its power, disolve it's opposition (FFP) and put in place measures to maintain authority to wit we are seeing the consequences. I am well aware of the political landscape here.

Edited August 12, 2023 by dinsdale

[scorecard]

But seems to me they still need a large number of senators to vote for them to gain the PM chair.

[eisfeld]

5 minutes ago, scorecard said:

But seems to me they still need a large number of senators to vote for them to gain the PM chair.

Not going to be an issue with the very people who appointed the senators on board.

[candide]

17 hours ago, pegman said:

The people of Issan knew exactly who they were voting for. Thaksin, whose parties have won every legit election since 2001. I think it is the Junta coalition party's voters who will be more upset at their members for voting in a PTP member as PM. 

That's an issue which tends to be neglected in this forum.

Supporting a PTP dominated government, after making a coup to get rid of it, is surely not a popular initiative among yellow folks and Junta lovers.

[Hunz Kittisak]

On 8/12/2023 at 8:45 AM, pegman said:

The people of Issan knew exactly who they were voting for. Thaksin, whose parties have won every legit election since 2001. I think it is the Junta coalition party's voters who will be more upset at their members for voting in a PTP member as PM. 

Well said 

Those who voted for PT wants PT in power and formulate policies that make their lives better. They want Thaksin back too

all their boxes are ticked 

 

[ExpatOilWorker]

On 8/11/2023 at 9:53 PM, pegman said:

That's completely ridiculous. Have you ever voted for the winning party and then been mad that they won?

This is what they voted for.. 

Under the policy, the 10,000-baht handout would be transferred to the digital wallet of the recipients who can spend the amount at local businesses within a 4-kilometre radius of their registered address. The digital cash handout must be utilised within six months.

 

[Hunz Kittisak]

12 hours ago, candide said:

That's an issue which tends to be neglected in this forum.

Supporting a PTP dominated government, after making a coup to get rid of it, is surely not a popular initiative among yellow folks and Junta lovers.

Indeed haha all the changes in the constitution to keep out PT and Thaksin finally backfired 

 

[Hunz Kittisak]

3 minutes ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

This is what they voted for.. 

Under the policy, the 10,000-baht handout would be transferred to the digital wallet of the recipients who can spend the amount at local businesses within a 4-kilometre radius of their registered address. The digital cash handout must be utilised within six months.

 

Nothing wrong many governments giving cash handouts too during and after covid especially 

[sidneybear]

So hilarious, really. All the know-all lefties on this forum were (until recently) crowing about how this time would be different, and that the US stooge Pita would be the next PM. Well, this time isn't different, as I said all along.

 

Thailand is run by mature adults, who look with horror at the degenerate west and have kept Thailand on track, this time by giving those MFP socialists the heave ho. Pheu Thai will be kept under control too, just as they always have been. 

 

I can't stop laughing, reading all the frothing lefties here ranting and raving. May the Buddha bless conservative Thailand.

[scorecard]

1 hour ago, Hunz Kittisak said:

Indeed haha all the changes in the constitution to keep out PT and Thaksin finally backfired 

 

Maybe, more to the point is the lack of ethics and morals of the senators.

[MrMojoRisin]

1 hour ago, sidneybear said:

So hilarious, really. All the know-all lefties on this forum were (until recently) crowing about how this time would be different, and that the US stooge Pita would be the next PM. Well, this time isn't different, as I said all along.

 

Thailand is run by mature adults, who look with horror at the degenerate west and have kept Thailand on track, this time by giving those MFP socialists the heave ho. Pheu Thai will be kept under control too, just as they always have been. 

 

I can't stop laughing, reading all the frothing lefties here ranting and raving. May the Buddha bless conservative Thailand.

This time it is very very different.

 

The junta (mature adults????) are so weakened that they are reduced  crawling on their knees begging Thaksin to save them.

 

The trends in Thailand are all in one direction - towards democracy, towards freedom and towards liberalism.

 

Conservatism, as practised by the Thai elites is over, finished, done and never to return.

 

If you think PT forming government is a victory, you my friend, know very little.

 

[MrMojoRisin]

On 8/11/2023 at 9:53 PM, pegman said:

That's completely ridiculous. Have you ever voted for the winning party and then been mad that they won?

They didn’t vote for the people - they voted for the policies.

 

Have you ever been betrayed and then been happy with those that betrayed you?

Edited August 13, 2023 by MrMojoRisin

[HaoleBoy]

PTP will get the PM slot but then it will be a sh*t show when the fighting starts for the cabinet positions.  Prawit may not get a cabinet slot, but he's been assured his brother will (keep the corruption in the family).

 

Does PTP really think all the junta in their coalition will let them makechanges to the military?  Maybe they'll let some small modifications go through, but nothing substantial.  And all the family monopolies / duopolies won't change so the younger generation gets screwed again (until the OLD dinasoars die).

 

And all this just so PTP will get Thaksin back .... 

[sidneybear]

1 hour ago, MrMojoRisin said:

If you think PT forming government is a victory, you my friend, know very little.

People were saying what you're saying nearly two decades ago. PT government won't last because it's run by Thaksin. They'll be thrown out in short order like the last few times, and a proper government will be installed.

 

I can't stop laughing. It's really so funny how you all thought this time was different. It wasn't. 

[candide]

3 hours ago, sidneybear said:

So hilarious, really. All the know-all lefties on this forum were (until recently) crowing about how this time would be different, and that the US stooge Pita would be the next PM. Well, this time isn't different, as I said all along.

 

Thailand is run by mature adults, who look with horror at the degenerate west and have kept Thailand on track, this time by giving those MFP socialists the heave ho. Pheu Thai will be kept under control too, just as they always have been. 

 

I can't stop laughing, reading all the frothing lefties here ranting and raving. May the Buddha bless conservative Thailand.

So, for you, being for democracy means being a "leftie"! ????

Edited August 13, 2023 by candide

[MrMojoRisin]

23 minutes ago, sidneybear said:

People were saying what you're saying nearly two decades ago. PT government won't last because it's run by Thaksin. They'll be thrown out in short order like the last few times, and a proper government will be installed.

 

I can't stop laughing. It's really so funny how you all thought this time was different. It wasn't. 

Two decades ago conservative nutters were obsessed with getting Thaksin out of the country, nowadays those same conservative nutters are bent over with their trousers down begging Thaksin to come back and have his way.

 

Things change.

 

So laugh it up while you can because the penny shall soon drop for all the conservative nutter sycophants as they slowly realise that it’s over for militarism, despotism and dictatorship in Thailand.

 

Tomorrow belongs to the youth and they have chosen democracy, freedom, liberty and the West.

 

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