19 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

Ah ....... a rare sighting of the lesser spotted eurasian blinkered owl ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

There yer go again EP. Suggesting that my eyes are somehow faulty.

 

I'll have you know that on Saturday I saw a cricket on a post a fair way off. I ventured towards it; counting out the paces as i went. Mobile camera in hand. Sixty metres, give or take a cm or two. I was gonna take a pic, but the creature jumped off into the undergrowth.

 

So you are befuddled again EP. My eyes are fine.

6 hours ago, Thorgal said:

First answer my question please.

Hey, you cannot be taken seriously, you posted a vid with Corbyn in it, Corbyn is a known supporter of terrorist organisations, even going to IRA funerals, it is obvious you are of the same ilk.

On another note, all your Israel bombing a hospital cr@p has now been proved from many 100% dependable sources that it was an Hamas blunder.

 

Nobody here takes you seriously, except members of your ilk.......

 

1 hour ago, owl sees all said:

This 'International Law' only applies when it suits the powerful to point the finger at smaller nations. Usually ones they don't like..

 

The US, Israel and UK do what the hell they like around the world.

Yes, Pike..............

10 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

There yer go again EP. Suggesting that my eyes are somehow faulty.

 

I'll have you know that on Saturday I saw a cricket on a post a fair way off. I ventured towards it; counting out the paces as i went. Mobile camera in hand. Sixty metres, give or take a cm or two. I was gonna take a pic, but the creature jumped off into the undergrowth.

 

So you are wrong again EP. My eyes are fine.

Very pleased to hear that your eyes are still fine 

 

Is it true you never go courting in the rain
Because it’s too wet to woo

 

I’ll get my coat

1 hour ago, transam said:

Doesn't suit your agenda, eh...........😂

And what agenda would that be Darling?

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I have just seen a harrowing account of the fate of Gina Semiatich, a 90 year old Kibbutz resident who as a little Czech Jewish girl survived the concentration camps of The Holocaust.

 

She was dragged from her home, forced to kneel and shot in the back of the head.

 

I cannot summon up one jot of sympathy for the people who did this ( murdering bastards) or for the people who celebrate and tolerate it being done in their name, or their international supporters.

 

God rest her soul.

I posted a Video showing the aftermath of what Hamas did after they murdered civvies and the barbarism they committed in a kibbutz they Entered. Not one of the Hamas supporters on here condemned it or posted on it, which shows the mindset of these members. On a side note, The home Secretary Suela Braverman has been asked by the Met Police Commissionaire why Demonstrators shouting Jihad on the streets of London were not arrested for incitement and shouting Racist chants.

Some karma dished out

 

 

6 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Some karma dished out

 

 

He's not laughing now. Shame one of those Rockets didn't Malfunction and fall on his head karma indeed.

16 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

I posted a Video showing the aftermath of what Hamas did after they murdered civvies and the barbarism they committed in a kibbutz they Entered. Not one of the Hamas supporters on here condemned it or posted on it, which shows the mindset of these members. On a side note, The home Secretary Suela Braverman has been asked by the Met Police Commissionaire why Demonstrators shouting Jihad on the streets of London were not arrested for incitement and shouting Racist chants.

Wrong way round buddy. Braverman asked the Met Chief why they were not arrested, and has demanded an explanation from him 

Just now, Eloquent pilgrim said:

Wrong way round buddy. Braverman asked the Met Chief why they were not arrested, and has demanded an explanation from him 

I thought that was the question I asked Eloquent. last week it was announced anyone protesting and using anti-Israeli slogans would be arrested. 

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On 10/21/2023 at 4:59 PM, Bkk Brian said:

Did you also note that Iran was not on the list? They are Hamas's puppet masters and key decision makers as to how this plays out. The meeting is taking place now in Cairo with them trying to set out a road map with no key decision makers there.

 

Yes, Iran was not an attendee.  Not sure saudi arabia was either.  US sent top embassy official, but he did not speak.

 

As you say, the main military forces and funders  not attending.  Up to them.

 

If you're interested here's UN's press release of outcome.

 

https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/10/1142642

 

Mr Guterres speech seemed statesman like to me.  

 

Not sure what effect it will have ofcourse.

35 minutes ago, deejai33 said:

 

Yes, Iran was not an attendee.  Not sure saudi arabia was either.  US sent top embassy official, but he did not speak.

 

As you say, the main military forces and funders  not attending.  Up to them.

 

If you're interested here's UN's press release of outcome.

 

https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/10/1142642

 

Mr Guterres speech seemed statesman like to me.  

 

Not sure what effect it will have ofcourse.

 

I think that Antonio Guterres is as good a Secretary General as the UN has had for many years. The problem is that the UN is a busted flush, a well intended relic that has become a pointless organisation. The UN Security Council comprises of 15 countries, 10 of which are rotating members, with 5 permanent members. Any of the five permanent members, the USA, Russia, France, China, and the UK, can veto any resolution put forward even if the other 14 members support it.

 

I’m sure you can see the problem; in the last couple of years, Russia has vetoed 4 resolutions regarding Ukraine, and China vetos any resolution regarding their illegal expansionism in the South China sea.

 

Statesman like speeches on the Israeli - Gaza war, fade like shadows into the night.

Turkey Requests Hamas Leader to Leave: A Shift in Diplomacy Amid Rising Tensions

https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/turkey-requests-hamas-leader-to-leave-a-shift-in-diplomacy-amid-rising-tensions/ar-AA1iHaeb

 

Eying Gaza mediator role, Turkey cools Hamas ties, Erdogan restrains rhetoric

https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2023/10/eying-gaza-mediator-role-turkey-cools-hamas-ties-erdogan-restrains-rhetoric

 

Muslim world solidarity....Wonder what @thaibeachlovers would make of that.

On 10/20/2023 at 2:21 AM, MrMojoRisin said:

Did the New York Times retract their mistake and offer an apology?

 

You have once again, unsurprisingly, either completely failed to comprehend simple English or you have deliberately misrepresented what I have stated.

 

I have been very clear that there is not, at the moment, enough evidence for either side to definitively prove that the other side is the guilty party and therefore, anyone who values the truth and facts over partisanship and point scoring would acknowledge this reality and reserve their opinion until sufficient reputable evidence is provided.

 

Please provided proof that I have stated that I am sure the hospital has been bombed or withdraw your false claims and apologise.

 

 

 

 

"Did the New York Times retract their mistake and offer an apology?"

 

Editors’ Note: Gaza Hospital Coverage

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/23/pageoneplus/editors-note-gaza-hospital-coverage.html

Hamas Fails to Make Case That Israel Struck Hospital

https://news.yahoo.com/hamas-fails-case-israel-struck-124003365.html

 

"“The missile has dissolved like salt in the water,” Ghazi Hamad, a senior Hamas official, said in a phone interview. “It’s vaporized. Nothing is left.”

 

The dog ate my evidence.

 

20 minutes ago, Morch said:

Turkey Requests Hamas Leader to Leave: A Shift in Diplomacy Amid Rising Tensions

https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/turkey-requests-hamas-leader-to-leave-a-shift-in-diplomacy-amid-rising-tensions/ar-AA1iHaeb

 

Eying Gaza mediator role, Turkey cools Hamas ties, Erdogan restrains rhetoric

https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2023/10/eying-gaza-mediator-role-turkey-cools-hamas-ties-erdogan-restrains-rhetoric

 

Muslim world solidarity....Wonder what @thaibeachlovers would make of that.

Hamas leaders are being hunted down by Mossad, I’m sure RTE and his buddies don’t want that mess coming home.

2 hours ago, Morch said:

Turkey Requests Hamas Leader to Leave: A Shift in Diplomacy Amid Rising Tensions

https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/turkey-requests-hamas-leader-to-leave-a-shift-in-diplomacy-amid-rising-tensions/ar-AA1iHaeb

 

Eying Gaza mediator role, Turkey cools Hamas ties, Erdogan restrains rhetoric

https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2023/10/eying-gaza-mediator-role-turkey-cools-hamas-ties-erdogan-restrains-rhetoric

 

Muslim world solidarity....Wonder what @thaibeachlovers would make of that.

We should leave the Neo Nazis with their lefty loon antiamericanism/antisemitism/antiwest aside in this discussion and start looking at the geopolitical aspects, viz:

 

1. Iran stands in the way of Pan-Turkism

2. Israel is worth more to Turkey than Hamas

3. Israel is a strong ally of Azerbaijan

4. Azerbaijan is a Turkic nation, secular Muslim too.

5. 35% (I think) of Iran is Azeri.

6. Both Turkey and Azerbaijan have Nato aspirations

 

Whatever Turkey does will be with the foregoing in mind.

 

 

Watch BBC reporter get schooled by a real international lawyer & expert on laws of war. Choice moments include Israel's rights what ever it takes, and utterly morally repugnant accusations of collective punishment that are even liable. 

 

International law 1, BBC 0, Hamas -10 (Thorgal scoreless)

 

7 minutes ago, rabas said:

Watch BBC reporter get schooled by a real international lawyer & expert on laws of war. Choice moments include Israel's rights what ever it takes, and utterly morally repugnant accusations of collective punishment that are even liable. 

 

International law 1, BBC 0, Hamas -10 (Thorgal scoreless)

 

Is bombing churches one of their obligations? 

Do you agree this is a war crime? 

Saw a very sad video of one man whose 3 children were killed here. 

 

 

3 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Is bombing churches one of their obligations? 

Do you agree this is a war crime? 

Saw a very sad video of one man whose 3 children were killed here. 

 

 

How to say you didn't listen without saying it?  Post off topic  propaganda video from youtube. 

 

Paid for by the government that shelters the head of Hamas. 

3 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Is bombing churches one of their obligations? 

Was the church attempting to commit genocide? 

3 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Do you agree this is a war crime? 

Not a crime if Palestine was firing rockets from the church. 

3 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Saw a very sad video of one man whose 3 children were killed here. 

De you see the very sad videos of the Palestinians attacks on Israel? Do you agree those were war crimes? Do you agree firing rockets from churches and other residential areas are war crimes? 

13 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Is bombing churches one of their obligations? 

Do you agree this is a war crime? 

Saw a very sad video of one man whose 3 children were killed here. 

 

 

 

 

   Israel admits to bombing that location and Israel says its intended target was a Hamas command centre next door and Israel missed its intended target 

7 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Was the church attempting to commit genocide? 

Not a crime if Palestine was firing rockets from the church. 

De you see the very sad videos of the Palestinians attacks on Israel? Do you agree those were war crimes? Do you agree firing rockets from churches and other residential areas are war crimes? 

There are no tickets fired from the church. 

The terrorist attack was not a war crime. 

Firing  rockets from residential areas probably is a war crime. 

12 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Was the church attempting to commit genocide? 

Not a crime if Palestine was firing rockets from the church. 

De you see the very sad videos of the Palestinians attacks on Israel? Do you agree those were war crimes? Do you agree firing rockets from churches and other residential areas are war crimes? 

Do you agree with this report? 

 

https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/damning-evidence-war-crimes-israeli-attacks-wipe-out-entire-families-gaza-enar

There's a reason why it was Tergeted Haw Haw or would you rather not mention the reason?

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

There are no tickets fired from the church. 

But there (apparently) were rockets being fired from next to the church, 

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

The terrorist attack was not a war crime. 

No, it was much worse. 

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

Firing  rockets from residential areas probably is a war crime. 

So, Palestine is guilty of war crimes, yes?

3 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Do you agree with this report? 

 

https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/damning-evidence-war-crimes-israeli-attacks-wipe-out-entire-families-gaza-enar

What does it say?