French mother demands justice for son sexually assaulted by Thai man in Koh Samui

[brianthainess]

15 hours ago, phetphet said:

She should check to see if the shop has CCTV.

LEARN TO READ!

[spidermike007]

You don't make up a story like this, it's likely that it happened just as she said and it's likely that the guy who did it is friends with the police. The police on Samui are some of the worst in Thailand, nearly all police in Thailand are corrupt but Samui is the leader of the pack when it comes to a near complete total avoidance of any sort of law enforcement.

 

Kudos to the mother for pushing this thing, embarrass them to no end, and shame them to no end, it's the only way to get the attention of the Thai officials. 

Edited October 10, 2023 by spidermike007

[brianthainess]

3 hours ago, neeray said:

The devil is in the details, and I think there are some details missing here.

Only to those to lazy to click on the full story.

[brianthainess]

They asked the child to do a re-enactment, what is wrong with these officers, friends of the perb.? (no doubt they videoed that if in fact it took place)

[Modern Coding]

16 hours ago, Chris Daley said:

The mother is to blame.  Don't let your kids out of your sight.

Mother is to blame?? Pedophiles are not??

 

One might think, mother appeared to be unwise to send her kid alone, or in this case, to let her kid go alone to get back the key, as he per story volunteered.

But hey: 10 meters away! Everywhere in this world, parents or grannies send their kids to the grocer's next door, or kids volunteer to go there.

 

I guess the guy at the shop noticed, they forgot the key.

I guess he saw a great opportunity for a "great deal": "You can have your keys back, but in exchange, you do me some pleasure!".

I guess, if the mother had gone there instead, this "great deal" would have been for her, don't you think so??

 

As long as people like you keep blaming victims, pedophiles have long days ahead of them.

[newnative]

     I think if you read the more complete story--although, still sketchy--rather than the AN synopsis, you get a somewhat fuller picture and the police actions make more sense.  There are two separate issues.  First, the assault charge against the French woman.  The woman slapped the Thai man, which she admits doing, and he filed an assault charge.  With her confession, the police charged her with the assault and confiscated her passport to prevent her from leaving the country before the case is heard.  Makes sense to me.  Assaulting someone can have consequences.  She will have the opportunity to explain her actions, and perhaps win her case, when it comes to trial.

     The second issue is the alleged assault on her son.  There is no  CCTV evidence and, apparently, no witnesses other than her son.  So, essentially, it's one person's word, a foreigner, against another person's word, a Thai citizen.  And, the son is no longer in Thailand to provide evidence or testimony.   A prosecutor might very well decide to not go forward with such a lack of evidence.  

     The action, or inaction, of the French Embassy is the mystery to me--although we may not have all the details.  They have a French citizen in trouble and it seems they could be doing more in the way of support.  An embassy representative might also be able to step in and perhaps negotiate a resolution where charges against the woman are dropped if she drops her charges and agrees to leave the country.   She admits she has no job and no financial resources and, while it may not be the justice she wants, it may be the best she can hope for at this point.

[Modern Coding]

42 minutes ago, Kaopad999 said:

I believe that ALL sexual predators and peadophiles found guilty should be castrated. 

That would put them in the same bag as ladyboys and transwomen who completely transitioned.

I do respect ladyboys and transwomen, I don't respect pedophiles.

As someone suggested, they belong to an isolated island and "god" have mercy.

[BritManToo]

3 minutes ago, newnative said:

The second issue is the alleged assault on her son.  There is no  CCTV evidence and, apparently, no witnesses other than her son.  So, essentially, it's one person's word, a foreigner, against another person's word, a Thai citizen.  And, the son is no longer in Thailand to provide evidence or testimony.   A prosecutor might very well decide to not go forward with such a lack of evidence.  

Does anyone really think the Thai guy didn't do anything?

We all know that Thai men can't be left alone with children.

Ask your Thai wife, and she will tell you.

[Modern Coding]

2 minutes ago, newnative said:

The action, or inaction, of the French Embassy is the mystery to me

Knowing that in France, the police does not help,

knowing that in France, the court does not help either,

knowing that in France, victim blaming is the norm, especially if the victim is female,

it should be no wonder that abroad, the embassy would not help any further, knowing that for simple paperwork, it is already extremely challenging for French citizens!

[Russtler67]

16 hours ago, Chris Daley said:

The mother is to blame.  Don't let your kids out of your sight.

Stellar example of victim blaming here. Proud work sir. 

[Bangkok Barry]

16 hours ago, phetphet said:

She should check to see if the shop has CCTV.

If you bothered to read the linked report....

According to Mina, the Thai man had unplugged the shop’s security camera before committing the crime.

[Bangkok Barry]

After hearing about the shocking incident, the woman said she ran back to the grocery store and found the suspect Thai man naked.

 

No help from the police, no help from the embassy, a bizarre claim from the mother about a naked man in the shop? Something very odd about her claim.

Edited October 10, 2023 by Bangkok Barry

[stupidfarang]

16 hours ago, Chris Daley said:

The mother is to blame.  Don't let your kids out of your sight.

She is not to blame, next you will blame the boy. She has made a mistake letting the boy go by himself thinking all is good here, but she is not to blame for a man sexually assulting her child.

[Liverpool Lou]

17 hours ago, phetphet said:

She should check to see if the shop has CCTV.

You should read the full OP.

[Liverpool Lou]

3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Yep, sending a 7yo out alone in a foreign country is a bit silly.

Could have been abducted, run over, got lost.

Bit silly, the shop is 10 metres from the hotel.  

[Jackbenimble]

17 hours ago, phetphet said:

She should check to see if the shop has CCTV.

a proper western persons comment 

[Liverpool Lou]

3 hours ago, steven100 said:

the french embassy refused to help her .....   why not help her ?

Embassies cannot help their nationals by intervening in criminal cases apart from recommending lawyers.

[nobodysfriend]

2 hours ago, IndomitableSpirit said:

"No serious harm was done?" If this is how you think, I'm scared of the things you do or can do. 

???     I am  no Pedo ... you suggest that with your post ? be careful , defamation laws ...

Did the boy get physically hurt ? Was there blood ? As the mother was not present at the time it happened , who gave the statement ? Any witnesses ? Only the boy ?

17 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The boy explained that the man made the boy sit on his lap, touched his penis and forced him to touch the man’s penis.

A 7 year old said that ? If not true , it can destroy a life ...

 

17 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

the French mother had her passport confiscated after the suspect filed an assault charge against her

There is more than only 1 version of this story , it seems .

[Liverpool Lou]

3 hours ago, steven100 said:

and she has her passport confiscated ....   why was her passport taken   ?

Probably held until she paid her fine.

[jaideedave]

4 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Yep, sending a 7yo out alone in a foreign country is a bit silly.

Could have been abducted, run over, got lost.

I also agree with you.If at home in a familiar place ok, but not in a foreign country.

[nobodysfriend]

23 minutes ago, Cabradelmar said:

This reporting has so many incomplete or missing details to be generally useless... media sensationalism driven clickbate at this point. 

True .

[arithai12]

3 hours ago, d4dang said:

10 meters from their hotel on Koh Samui

So I would find it normal that she walks back 10m to get the key.

Also, a 7 y old boy can scream loud enough to be heard at 10m.

[Liverpool Lou]

54 minutes ago, newnative said:

An embassy representative might also be able to step in and perhaps negotiate a resolution where charges against the woman are dropped if she drops her charges and agrees to leave the country.

No, they cannot interfere in criminal cases, neither can they provide legal assistance except by recommending lawyers to do that.

[Liverpool Lou]

53 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

We all know that Thai men can't be left alone with children.

Once again, a ridiculous over-generalisation and something that "we all" certainly do not know.

[jaideedave]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

You don't make up a story like this, it's likely that it happened just as she said and it's likely that the guy who did it is friends with the police. The police on Samui are some of the worst in Thailand, nearly all police in Thailand are corrupt but Samui is the leader of the pack when it comes to a near complete total avoidance of any sort of law enforcement.

 

Kudos to the mother for pushing this thing, embarrass them to no end, and shame them to no end, it's the only way to get the attention of the Thai officials. 

Correct.He knows the cops for sure because he lives there.He's being protected.She doesn't stand a chance for justice. This doesn't pass the sniff test.

[Liverpool Lou]

17 minutes ago, nobodysfriend said:

I am  no Pedo ... you suggest that with your post ? be careful , defamation laws ...

Good luck with a defamation suit against an anonymous person, particularly one who did not accuse you of being a "Pedo" [sic]!

Edited October 10, 2023 by Liverpool Lou

[jaideedave]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

Does anyone really think the Thai guy didn't do anything?

We all know that Thai men can't be left alone with children.

Ask your Thai wife, and she will tell you.

I remeber once when I lived in Issarn the 2 next door girls about 15 yo came over do do some chores around the house and the mom came with them and closely watched them and me the whole time.

Now I know why.

[nobodysfriend]

Just now, Liverpool Lou said:

Good luck with a defamation suit against an anonymous person!

Yeah right ... I never said that I would file a defamation suit . Why would I ?

Posters here can be identified by their IP address if police becomes involved .

[Liverpool Lou]

4 minutes ago, nobodysfriend said:

Yeah right ... I never said that I would file a defamation suit . Why would I ?

Posters here can be identified by their IP address if police becomes involved .

Yeah, right.

 

"I never said that I would file a defamation suit".

Well, you did post this threat, "I am  no Pedo ... you suggest that with your post ? be careful , defamation laws ..."

Edited October 10, 2023 by Liverpool Lou

[nobodysfriend]

1 minute ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Yeah right.

 

"I never said that I would file a defamation suit".

Well, you did post this threat, "I am  no Pedo ... you suggest that with your post ? be careful , defamation laws ..."

So what ...?