Dan discusses his Pattaya Bargirl relationship and advises others to not do the same.

[Danderman123]

4 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Dumb rule 😎

The rule exists for a reason.

 

IF it's a real boyfriend, there is a good chance he will be with his tilac for a long time, and I may meet them socially. This has happened. There was one lady who I had to push off my XXXX when she climbed on when I was busy elsewhere, she was going with a bar owner, and later when I met him, I had a clear conscience.

 

Conversely,  I don't care about sponsors, or Thai husbands.

 

One lady I know has both. I took her to Brazil for 3 weeks.

Edited October 24, 2023 by Danderman123

[brianthainess]

3 hours ago, tubby johnson said:

 

His chin looks like a scrotum.

 

Knob Head? , <deleted> Knows I mean nose  

[MrJ2U]

On 10/23/2023 at 11:12 AM, Goat said:

Thats right Peter. It just keeps happening.

 

What I found interesting about Dan Cheeseman's relationship with his Pattaya bargirl was that he was living here and in his early 30s. I can understand an elderly expat or a younger two week millionaire, but a young fella in his prime. Living in Thailand?

Dan dicusses older fellas falling for them when advising against it, and quite strongly.

 

But i think the vast majority of farangs who move here in their 30s avoid bar prostitutes like the plague.

Firstly because especially at that age you shouldnt be paying for sex, that is just pitiful. And he says that the reason that he thinks fellas do end up in love with prostitutes is because of pity which I thought was a bit ironic.

Secondly because there are literally tens of thousands of hot single available friendly girls in Thailand. Why would you even waste time with a hooker? Why did Dan choose Pattaya of all places? Not a place where the younger crowd gravitate to. Back twenty years ago Koh Samui, Tao, Phangnan were the places to be for the younger crowd.

Was Dan sponsoring his Pattaya hooker full time? Or did he let her work and he just shared. He said it was a longer term relationship and he mentions "taking care" of extended family so I assume he was paying her not to work.

 

So Dan's 'fell in love with a Pattaya prostitute" story isnt the usual "middle aged and got divorced in UK and found love in a Pattaya Bar"

 

 

Are you Dan?

 

 

[Danderman123]

34 minutes ago, brianthainess said:

Knob Head? , <deleted> Knows I mean nose  

The personal insults hurled at this Dan guy are more childish than the sheep comments.

 

How old are you guys?

[Acharn]

On 10/23/2023 at 11:12 AM, Goat said:

Thats right Peter. It just keeps happening.

 

<snip>

... at that age you shouldnt [sic] be paying for sex, that is just pitiful.

<snip>

 

I've really never understood this attitude. I think a large majority of us either pay for it or use our hand. I'm socially inept, myself, plus I have inhibitions that make me unable to speak about sex with women. I never learned how to tell a "normal" woman that I wanted to take her to bed, and I lived for many years content with masturbating. Then I lived in Bangkok and spent a lot of money on it. Certainly many women (not only in Thailand) are able to make a living because so many men are like me.

[Danderman123]

Lots of guys come to Thailand, fall in love with a bargirl  and blow their life savings. When the money is gone, so is the bargirl.

 

It would great if these guys could be warned, no idea if they would listen.

[thecyclist]

On 10/23/2023 at 11:35 AM, PJ71 said:

Who cares, the guys a tool.

A tool or a fool, or both????

[thecyclist]

On 10/23/2023 at 11:25 AM, QuantumQuandry said:

There's an age when you should pay for sex and an age when you shouldn't?

 

Who determined the correct age and the appropriate level of shaming?  Is there a chart?

Yes, the goat will let us know the etiquette .

[proton]

Tried to force myself to watch it, got as far as him advising a single bloke needs 100k baht a month for 'living' here, as against existing. Plainly ridiculous, but his opinion, which I wont be taking any more notice of.

[Goat]

On 10/23/2023 at 5:27 PM, sipi said:

Actually, I joined another forum years ago as "Dan Cheeseman" and no-one caught on.

Thats funny.

[Goat]

On 10/24/2023 at 7:53 AM, Walker88 said:

-it is immoral for a woman to be paid for sex, but absolutely okay if she has sex because she's horny. The goodness of one vs the other escapes me. Secondly, a guy who pays for it is a loser, but a guy who sleeps around---often giving women a false impression of genuine affection---is something between a stud muffin and the second coming of the messiah. Apparently we should all applaud him because "he's getting it for free".

 

100% correct.

No flies on you mate.

[Goat]

13 hours ago, proton said:

Tried to force myself to watch it, got as far as him advising a single bloke needs 100k baht a month for 'living' here, as against existing. Plainly ridiculous, but his opinion, which I wont be taking any more notice of.

Well if you are supporting a Pattaya Prostitute for a girlfriend experience it depends how stupid you are. 

Some of those girls ask for 30,000 cash every month, plus food, plus shopping because they are bored not working, plus sick buffaloes, brothers motorbike, lend money to friends etc etc

 

if you had a real girlfriend with a job and her own money then 30-40,000 would probably be reasonable.

[Goat]

13 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Lots of guys come to Thailand, fall in love with a bargirl  and blow their life savings. When the money is gone, so is the bargirl.

 

It would great if these guys could be warned, no idea if they would listen.

I am sure before she bled him dry Dan thought his was going to be different. 

[Goat]

13 hours ago, Acharn said:

I think a large majority of us either pay for it or use our hand. I'm socially inept, myself, plus I have inhibitions that make me unable to speak about sex with women.

A large majority??? 

Nah.

Didnt know anybody who paid prostitutes to be their girlfriend, or even wife, before coming to Thailand.

Especially at 30 years old like Dan 

[Goat]

On 10/24/2023 at 7:53 AM, Walker88 said:

Are you this "Dan" guy?

No, but i have met him. 

In Pattaya darkside bars years ago when he was working for Niels Colov.

It seems he has tried to emulate Niels but really hasnt been able to pull it off. Niels was 10 times smarter, and made the right connections because he could actually talk to Thai people in Thai and socialise with them.

 

Dan seems stuck mainly socialising with Brit Pattaya "Bar Owners' who some descibe as pimps and mongers. You can only go so far with that.

Drew Noyes also tried to copy Niels and failed spectaculary and ended up arrested and sentenced to prison.

 

Clever bloke that Niels.

[transam]

14 minutes ago, Goat said:

Well if you are supporting a Pattaya Prostitute for a girlfriend experience it depends how stupid you are. 

Some of those girls ask for 30,000 cash every month, plus food, plus shopping because they are bored not working, plus sick buffaloes, brothers motorbike, lend money to friends etc etc

 

if you had a real girlfriend with a job and her own money then 30-40,000 would probably be reasonable.

Amazing how you know all that stuff, Goaty..........................................😂

[SAFETY FIRST]

11 minutes ago, Goat said:

 

Clever bloke that Niels

I heard Niels has a shady past, back in his home country. 

[Goat]

7 minutes ago, transam said:

Amazing how you know all that stuff, Goaty..........................................😂

Seen it before hundres of times.

These blokes often get in too deep and end up living in the backwaters of Issan looking after not only her, but her kids with Thai fathers and reduced to really skimping to get buy.

 

Luckily Dan was smart enough to get out before then.

[Goat]

2 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

I heard Niels has a shady past, back in his home country. 

Totally.

His life in thailand hasnt been what I would describe as squeaky clean either.

But he was smart enough to make the right Thai connections.

A survivor.

[transam]

26 minutes ago, Goat said:

Seen it before hundres of times.

These blokes often get in too deep and end up living in the backwaters of Issan looking after not only her, but her kids with Thai fathers and reduced to really skimping to get buy.

 

Luckily Dan was smart enough to get out before then.

You must have been there to know so much, and don't tell us you haven't...😂...As every time you post on here it's all doom and gloom....😂......A contented chappy wouldn't continuously post that way, unless they were a troll or a bit crackers....😂....So which are you..........😂

[scubascuba3]

1 hour ago, Goat said:

No, but i have met him. 

In Pattaya darkside bars years ago when he was working for Niels Colov.

It seems he has tried to emulate Niels but really hasnt been able to pull it off. Niels was 10 times smarter, and made the right connections because he could actually talk to Thai people in Thai and socialise with them.

 

Dan seems stuck mainly socialising with Brit Pattaya "Bar Owners' who some descibe as pimps and mongers. You can only go so far with that.

Drew Noyes also tried to copy Niels and failed spectaculary and ended up arrested and sentenced to prison.

 

Clever bloke that Niels.

Niels comes across as just another shady falang trying hard to make connections incl police 

[Goat]

1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said:

Niels comes across as just another shady falang trying hard to make connections incl police 

Correct. But he was successful at it.

Others tried copying and failed.

Some quite badly.

[Goat]

2 hours ago, transam said:

You must have been there to know so much, and don't tell us you haven't...😂...As every time you post on here it's all doom and gloom....😂...\

\

 

Doom and gloom. I was referring about blokes who meet a bargirl and end up moving to Issan to look after her kids to Thai blokes and extended families. Personally something i would never contemplate.

It is Dan's topic, not mine.

 

2 hours ago, transam said:

 

...A contented chappy wouldn't continuously post that way, unless they were a troll or a bit crackers....😂....So which are you..........😂

Says the bloke with 81,000 posts. 

Anyway I am looking for that special one. Have you checked out Dan's dating Site yet?

[Goat]

On 10/24/2023 at 1:21 PM, biggeoff69 said:

What a load of hogwash, people will always go with their gut,

Well I have seen a lot of bargirls go with the big fat gut.

[transam]

7 minutes ago, Goat said:

Doom and gloom. I was referring about blokes who meet a bargirl and end up moving to Issan to look after her kids to Thai blokes and extended families. Personally something i would never contemplate.

It is Dan's topic, not mine.

 

Says the bloke with 81,000 posts. 

Anyway I am looking for that special one. Have you checked out Dan's dating Site yet?

I doubt you will ever find that special one, not if she finds out what you talk about hear..........🤭 

[proton]

3 hours ago, Goat said:

Well if you are supporting a Pattaya Prostitute for a girlfriend experience it depends how stupid you are. 

Some of those girls ask for 30,000 cash every month, plus food, plus shopping because they are bored not working, plus sick buffaloes, brothers motorbike, lend money to friends etc etc

 

if you had a real girlfriend with a job and her own money then 30-40,000 would probably be reasonable.

 

He did not link that insane amount to supporting a prostitute

[Goat]

On 10/24/2023 at 8:52 AM, SAFETY FIRST said:

He could be but I doubt it. 

Dan is the MD of Asean Now 

 

 

thanks for that contribution.

Very interesting that.

 

It reveals "The show is run by local Expat YouTuber Nick Dean, who also runs a chain of bars in Pattaya"

 

Looking at the TFI videos they are the sort of bars that bar fines are paid. Bar is a nice word, but lets face it, they are fronts for something a little more, it isnt just drinks they sell. 

 

  Dan Cheeseman declared “Media continues to evolve as consumers find new ways to get their information, this show is exactly where and how the market should be operating. It’s a hugely exciting space to be developing.”

 

So lets have a look an see how this went as it was exactly where and how the market should be operating.

 

First result on youtube.

In 9 years they managed to get an impressive 138 views and zero comments. 

Impressive.

 

 

 

 

That zero figure again. 

Like the zero girls available on Dan's dating. 

I have to give it to him, he is consistant.

[Goat]

6 minutes ago, proton said:

 

He did not link that insane amount to supporting a prostitute

True.

But it only works out at 3,300 per day.

 

bar fine 300-1,000

LT 1,500-2,000

Leaving 100 baht per meal.

Doesnt include accomodation.

[FruitPudding]

On 10/23/2023 at 11:12 AM, Goat said:

Thats right Peter. It just keeps happening.

 

What I found interesting about Dan Cheeseman's relationship with his Pattaya bargirl was that he was living here and in his early 30s. I can understand an elderly expat or a younger two week millionaire, but a young fella in his prime. Living in Thailand?

Dan dicusses older fellas falling for them when advising against it, and quite strongly.

 

But i think the vast majority of farangs who move here in their 30s avoid bar prostitutes like the plague.

Firstly because especially at that age you shouldnt be paying for sex, that is just pitiful. And he says that the reason that he thinks fellas do end up in love with prostitutes is because of pity which I thought was a bit ironic.

Secondly because there are literally tens of thousands of hot single available friendly girls in Thailand. Why would you even waste time with a hooker? Why did Dan choose Pattaya of all places? Not a place where the younger crowd gravitate to. Back twenty years ago Koh Samui, Tao, Phangnan were the places to be for the younger crowd.

Was Dan sponsoring his Pattaya hooker full time? Or did he let her work and he just shared. He said it was a longer term relationship and he mentions "taking care" of extended family so I assume he was paying her not to work.

 

So Dan's 'fell in love with a Pattaya prostitute" story isnt the usual "middle aged and got divorced in UK and found love in a Pattaya Bar"

 

 

 

I see you have yet to learn: they are all the same.

[Goat]

20 minutes ago, transam said:

I doubt you will ever find that special one, not if she finds out what you talk about hear..........🤭 

I think you meant "here"

It isnt only Thai you struggle with eh?

Thai females dont post here. Oh wait. There was Yinn who you were all obsessed with wasnt there.

You really impressed her mate.