Popular Post Kinok Farang Posted November 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2023 This protest has obviously been planned to provoke the British people.Muslims from all over England are being bussed into London to coincide with Remembrance day prayers. After giving them everything they've asked for for years this piss take has got to be the final straw. The question is who can sort this shambles out? The government is pathetic,the Met police even worse and all top businesses going woke.There is only the army left to control this utter madness but there is no chance of the lily-livered government sanctioning that. What's the panel think? 4 1 2 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post billd766 Posted November 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2023 quote "After giving them everything they've asked for for years this piss take has got to be the final straw". Giving them everything they have asked for? Such as what? How about Israel gives back the land and houses they have stolen from ALL the Palestinians? How about ending forever the land, sea and air blockade of the Gaza forever? How about Israel stops bombing and destroying Palestinian Palestinian villages, towns and Gaza city? How about Israel restores power, water, fuel, food and medical supplies that THEY cut off How about Israel clears out of West Jerusalem and recognises it as the Palestinian capital? How about Israel gives up Netanyahu as a war criminal along with ALL his warmongering cabinet. Then he Palestinians can give the Hamas leadership up as war criminals. Then the Hamas can stop attacking Jewish settlements. Then perhaps BOTH sides will admit that they have been wrong and that Palestinians and Jews CAN live together peacefully as they did for thousands of years until the last century. 2 6 8 2 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sungod Posted November 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2023 23 minutes ago, billd766 said: quote "After giving them everything they've asked for for years this piss take has got to be the final straw". Giving them everything they have asked for? Such as what? How about Israel gives back the land and houses they have stolen from ALL the Palestinians? How about ending forever the land, sea and air blockade of the Gaza forever? How about Israel stops bombing and destroying Palestinian Palestinian villages, towns and Gaza city? How about Israel restores power, water, fuel, food and medical supplies that THEY cut off How about Israel clears out of West Jerusalem and recognises it as the Palestinian capital? How about Israel gives up Netanyahu as a war criminal along with ALL his warmongering cabinet. Then he Palestinians can give the Hamas leadership up as war criminals. Then the Hamas can stop attacking Jewish settlements. Then perhaps BOTH sides will admit that they have been wrong and that Palestinians and Jews CAN live together peacefully as they did for thousands of years until the last century. Pathetic....... 2 2 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sungod Posted November 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Kinok Farang said: What's the panel think? "Fix bayonets !" 1 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kinok Farang Posted November 4, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2023 27 minutes ago, billd766 said: quote "After giving them everything they've asked for for years this piss take has got to be the final straw". Giving them everything they have asked for? Such as what? How about Israel gives back the land and houses they have stolen from ALL the Palestinians? How about ending forever the land, sea and air blockade of the Gaza forever? How about Israel stops bombing and destroying Palestinian Palestinian villages, towns and Gaza city? How about Israel restores power, water, fuel, food and medical supplies that THEY cut off How about Israel clears out of West Jerusalem and recognises it as the Palestinian capital? How about Israel gives up Netanyahu as a war criminal along with ALL his warmongering cabinet. Then he Palestinians can give the Hamas leadership up as war criminals. Then the Hamas can stop attacking Jewish settlements. Then perhaps BOTH sides will admit that they have been wrong and that Palestinians and Jews CAN live together peacefully as they did for thousands of years until the last century. How about sticking to the topic? 5 1 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolkandchance Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 30 minutes ago, billd766 said: quote "After giving them everything they've asked for for years this piss take has got to be the final straw". Giving them everything they have asked for? Such as what? How about Israel gives back the land and houses they have stolen from ALL the Palestinians? How about ending forever the land, sea and air blockade of the Gaza forever? How about Israel stops bombing and destroying Palestinian Palestinian villages, towns and Gaza city? How about Israel restores power, water, fuel, food and medical supplies that THEY cut off How about Israel clears out of West Jerusalem and recognises it as the Palestinian capital? How about Israel gives up Netanyahu as a war criminal along with ALL his warmongering cabinet. Then he Palestinians can give the Hamas leadership up as war criminals. Then the Hamas can stop attacking Jewish settlements. Then perhaps BOTH sides will admit that they have been wrong and that Palestinians and Jews CAN live together peacefully as they did for thousands of years until the last century. Well, that's next weekend sorted. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post transam Posted November 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2023 Remembrance Day is a very special day for us Brits, it should not be tampered with by anyone, it's a day to commemorate those who gave their lives for us, our freedom. The police should do everything in their powers to stop any intervention from anywhere......... 2 1 1 1 6 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolkandchance Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 Are me talking Saturday or Sunday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sungod Posted November 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, transam said: Remembrance Day is a very special day for us Brits, it should not be tampered with by anyone, it's a day to commemorate those who gave their lives for us, our freedom. The police should do everything in their powers to stop any intervention from anywhere......... They should ban the march, this is deliberately provocative as previous marches have been held on Saturdays. 2 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 57 minutes ago, Kinok Farang said: How about sticking to the topic? It is on topic. I you don't understand it, I can't help you. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 1 minute ago, billd766 said: It is on topic. I you don't understand it, I can't help you. You asked for thoughts. I gave you mine. If you don't understand it, I can't help you. 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post norfolkandchance Posted November 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2023 48 minutes ago, sungod said: They should ban the march, this is deliberately provocative as previous marches have been held on Saturdays. The demonstration is planned for Saturday the 11th, Armistice Day. Remembrance Day is the 12th. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kinok Farang Posted November 4, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2023 3 hours ago, billd766 said: quote "After giving them everything they've asked for for years this piss take has got to be the final straw". Giving them everything they have asked for? Such as what? How about Israel gives back the land and houses they have stolen from ALL the Palestinians? How about ending forever the land, sea and air blockade of the Gaza forever? How about Israel stops bombing and destroying Palestinian Palestinian villages, towns and Gaza city? How about Israel restores power, water, fuel, food and medical supplies that THEY cut off How about Israel clears out of West Jerusalem and recognises it as the Palestinian capital? How about Israel gives up Netanyahu as a war criminal along with ALL his warmongering cabinet. Then he Palestinians can give the Hamas leadership up as war criminals. Then the Hamas can stop attacking Jewish settlements. Then perhaps BOTH sides will admit that they have been wrong and that Palestinians and Jews CAN live together peacefully as they did for thousands of years until the last century. Perhaps the Israelis "could never get used to living next door to Ali". 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post billd766 Posted November 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2023 38 minutes ago, Kinok Farang said: Perhaps the Israelis "could never get used to living next door to Ali". Strangely enough they have done for centuries. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, billd766 said: Strangely enough they have done for centuries. Israel been founded less than a hundred years ago, Bill. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lungbing Posted November 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2023 4 hours ago, billd766 said: Strangely enough they have done for centuries. Without gangs of settlers protected by their army rampaging through Palestinian villages burning and destroying everything in sight. Without the IDF assassinating Al-Jazeera reporters wearing flak-jacket and helmet. Without stealing land and calling them settlements. Without shooting people who get too close to the wire. (Where have I heard that before?... Oh yes, in the camps) Good neighbours they are not. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted November 5, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2023 20 hours ago, transam said: Remembrance Day is a very special day for us Brits, it should not be tampered with by anyone, it's a day to commemorate those who gave their lives for us, our freedom. The police should do everything in their powers to stop any intervention from anywhere......... Many of who where not British and more than a few where Muslims. Maybe the right to peacefully protest was one of the things these people from around the world fought for. 1 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stratocaster Posted November 5, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2023 I have just watched an interview with an old Palestinian gentlemen recorded in 1947. He states. "If the British, French and Americans are so intent on giving the Jews a homeland why don't they donate some of their land. Why should we give up our land." Simplistic I know but it is the root of the problem. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post quake Posted November 5, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2023 Just one more example of how disgraceful the uk has become nowadays. The rest of the world has taken over the uk. how sad. Was heading back that way in a few years time. Not going to now, with the ever increasing nonsense I see every day on the news. You can turn the lights off and close the door. 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somjot Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 6 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: Many of who where not British and more than a few where Muslims. Maybe the right to peacefully protest was one of the things these people from around the world fought for. Sadly, once again the Israeli Palestinian conflict has shown the world the double standard of some countries in the western world, like the US, the UK and my home country, Germany. Human rights – of course! Freedom of speech – absolutely! No torture for captive soldiers – Sure! But … err … only if it is about OUR human rights, OUR freedom of speech and by the way, those POWs in Guantanamo were not soldiers, they were combatants. The UN voted about a resolution for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire a few days ago. A … HUMANITARIAN … Ceasefire! And Germany did not vote for it. Reason: “Err … well … that resolution did not state clearly enough that Hamas is a terror organisation!” Are you kidding me?? Everybody knows they are! In less than one month more Palestinian civilians have been killed than Ukrainians since Russia attacked them - and that was almost two years ago. I have no right to criticize the US or the UK but I cannot tell you how disappointed I am from my own government. We are so proud about how “intense and honest we did come to terms with our past revealing all the crimes of the Nazis and that every German now and for all times has the duty to make sure that such a thing will never ever happen again”. But obviously the sentence does not end there, one has to add: “… to Jewish people, everybody else we consider being minor, can be slaughtered as we or our forever Jewish friends see fit.” Some may call Hamas animals, but one thing is for sure, they are smarter than us. They knew from the beginning that they had no chance to win a war against Israel and that was never their intention. All they wanted was to cast a slur at Israel, which traditionally reacts very extreme on attacks like this and at those few countries, which support Israel, no matter what they do. And by doing so, widening the gap between those countries and the rest of the world, making them see our true faces and consequently distrusting us more and more, facilitating any kind of cooperation between them and our isolation from them. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novacova Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 On 11/4/2023 at 11:56 AM, billd766 said: quote "After giving them everything they've asked for for years this piss take has got to be the final straw". Giving them everything they have asked for? Such as what? How about Israel gives back the land and houses they have stolen from ALL the Palestinians? How about ending forever the land, sea and air blockade of the Gaza forever? How about Israel stops bombing and destroying Palestinian Palestinian villages, towns and Gaza city? How about Israel restores power, water, fuel, food and medical supplies that THEY cut off How about Israel clears out of West Jerusalem and recognises it as the Palestinian capital? How about Israel gives up Netanyahu as a war criminal along with ALL his warmongering cabinet. Then he Palestinians can give the Hamas leadership up as war criminals. Then the Hamas can stop attacking Jewish settlements. Then perhaps BOTH sides will admit that they have been wrong and that Palestinians and Jews CAN live together peacefully as they did for thousands of years until the last century. Hey…how about free Palestinians from the clutches of HamAss? Eh? How about that one??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
it is what it is Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 9 minutes ago, novacova said: Hey…how about free Palestinians from the clutches of HamAss? Eh? How about that one??? excellent point. if israel had given Palestinians' opportunities, instead of focusing on making life for the average Palestinian so difficult, it would be much more difficult for hamas to have power and influence. israel reaps what it sows. until the two peoples learn to live together this circle of hate and violence will continue. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, it is what it is said: excellent point. if israel had given Palestinians' opportunities, instead of focusing on making life for the average Palestinian so difficult, it would be much more difficult for hamas to have power and influence. israel reaps what it sows. until the two peoples learn to live together this circle of hate and violence will continue. There are quite often comments like that, about how Israel (or the World, or the West, Or the USA, or Arab countries) should give, do, help and so on the Palestinians. There's relatively very little by way of expecting the Palestinians to do anything semi-constructive on their own. I agree Israel's policies (especially in the West Bank, though) aren't helpful, to put it very very mildly. But at the same time, there were other nations and people in history that managed to gain their independence, set up a state, and take charge of their destiny without it being handed on a platter. More on topic, there was a comment on this made on social media by one Jason Marriner, ex Chelsea headhunters, nowadays living in Thailand. Some sort of mangled call to arms. Guess it was more the enemy of my enemy is my friend thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post herfiehandbag Posted November 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2023 I see the blessed Gary Linnaker has weighed in to the debate. Personally if I wanted the opinion of someone who had made his mark in life chasing a ball I would have asked my dog! 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said: I see the blessed Gary Linnaker has weighed in to the debate. Personally if I wanted the opinion of someone who had made his mark in life chasing a ball I would have asked my dog! Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolkandchance Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 58 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said: Link? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 On 11/4/2023 at 12:33 PM, transam said: Remembrance Day is a very special day for us Brits, it should not be tampered with by anyone, it's a day to commemorate those who gave their lives for us, our freedom. The police should do everything in their powers to stop any intervention from anywhere......... Protesting to end killings in a war killing hundreds of civilians a day. Where’s the problem? Seems especially fitting for Armistice Day. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 On 11/5/2023 at 2:47 AM, quake said: Just one more example of how disgraceful the uk has become nowadays. The rest of the world has taken over the uk. how sad. Was heading back that way in a few years time. Not going to now, with the ever increasing nonsense I see every day on the news. You can turn the lights off and close the door. Stop watching the news. It's not a fair reflection of the UK. News stories are usually grim, headline grabbers. Reporters tend not to report the good stories. Isaan is my home in Thailand. If I was to believe the Isaan News section on this site, as an example, was a true reflection of the place, I would never return. I don't believe that so I will return. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 On 11/5/2023 at 4:40 PM, it is what it is said: excellent point. if israel had given Palestinians' opportunities, instead of focusing on making life for the average Palestinian so difficult, it would be much more difficult for hamas to have power and influence. israel reaps what it sows. until the two peoples learn to live together this circle of hate and violence will continue. IMHO it is not the two peoples that are the problem, but the leadership on BOTH sides IS the problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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