blackcab Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Posts contravening our Community Standards and replies to them have been removed. Gentlemen, please stop defaming individuals and companies in Pattaya. Forum Rule 7 states: 7. You will not post defamatory or libelous comments. Defamation is the issuance of a statement about another person or business which causes that person or business to suffer harm or loss. A statement does not have to be false to be defamatory. Libel is when the defamatory statement is published either as a drawing, picture, painting, motion picture, film, or letters made visible by any means or by broadcasting, dissemination or propagation by any other means. Defamation is both a civil and criminal charge in Thailand and elsewhere in ASEAN. I hope this explanation is clear enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piston broke Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 i'd bet that the vast majority ain't got work permits ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimTripper Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 (edited) It's blokes who bought a cheap bar and are hanging around because things fall apart quicker if they don't. Usually a bar does not run itself, they need to hang around watching so the till does not get raided and other myriad problems. You can hire someone else to watch things and get things done, or put up a bunch of cameras, but it typically means you just need to watch one less person. There's usually no such thing as just sitting back and letting the money roll in. Edited November 30, 2023 by JimTripper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champers Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 2 hours ago, JimTripper said: It's blokes who bought a cheap bar and are hanging around because things fall apart quicker if they don't. Usually a bar does not run itself, they need to hang around watching so the till does not get raided and other myriad problems. You can hire someone else to watch things and get things done, or put up a bunch of cameras, but it typically means you just need to watch one less person. There's usually no such thing as just sitting back and letting the money roll in. That isn't what this thread is about at all. It is about bar owners; with more than one bar; hiring managers. Such places can be found on Sois 6 and 7 amongst others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimTripper Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 2 hours ago, champers said: That isn't what this thread is about at all. It is about bar owners; with more than one bar; hiring managers. Such places can be found on Sois 6 and 7 amongst others. Sorry, You're correct. I can't delete the comment off as it locks in after about 15 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aviatorhi Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 (edited) On 11/28/2023 at 11:22 AM, Everyman said: What is with these guys? Are they just losers who hang around the bar? Are they paid? Why are they needed? They're "buy me drinkee" men who rely on unsuspecting tourists to ring the bell and pad their commission checks. Ever since NWG has functionally taken over Soi 6 it's turned it into a complete nightmare of hustling, inflated prices, and complete BS. Is what it is, move on to other sois since the pile of bar manager losers which has taken hold isn't going anywhere with an amole supply of willing victims. Edited December 23, 2023 by Aviatorhi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aviatorhi Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 12:47 PM, Everyman said: there are a lot now. and there is a high turnover rate. despite assertions to the contrary, i think they are just losers who hang out there and give themselves job titles. i doubt they are paid. it’s not like anyone will buy them lady drinks, and if they did, the bar would think they are taking one away that a girl could get. You'd be shocked at how many tourists are even bigger losers who fly half way around the world to pour alcohol into a drunk "manager's" gullet. Soi 6 used to be a great place to hang out 10 or more years ago... Now? See above post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proton Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 11:22 AM, Everyman said: What is with these guys? Are they just losers who hang around the bar? Are they paid? Why are they needed? If they are hanging around Pattaya bars of course they are losers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 12:47 PM, Everyman said: there are a lot now. and there is a high turnover rate. despite assertions to the contrary, i think they are just losers who hang out there and give themselves job titles. i doubt they are paid. it’s not like anyone will buy them lady drinks, and if they did, the bar would think they are taking one away that a girl could get. Are you trying to make a parody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 On 11/29/2023 at 1:50 PM, bbi1 said: Do these foreign managers get free sex with the girls working there as part of their remuneration package? Only if they are really stupid. There are some bargirls who want to be the "girlfriend" of the manager, to accrue some additional benefits and dispensations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 On 11/29/2023 at 2:44 PM, thecyclist said: A couple of years the Nightwish group had an ad out,can't remember where exactly, looking for managers. Requirements were conversational in English, being able to hold your liquor, and being sociable, as you had to converse with and "entertain" Farangs that weren't there just for the sex.Speaking Thai and other farang languages was a plus. Managers who have been around for some time often have a book of business, and when they change bars, their customers go with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimTripper Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Danderman123 said: Managers who have been around for some time often have a book of business, and when they change bars, their customers go with them. It's people that have developed some sort of emotional connection with the owner. I get that a lot in Pattaya. People acting like a buddy when it's just a professional transaction and there's no trust built up yet. Examples are real estate agents, bar owners, restaurants, etc. There's so much competition that just providing a good service is not enough so they try to act like a buddy or friend to get repeat business, good reviews or referrals. You can tell they are doing when it feels overly friendly or familiar for no reason. Edited December 24, 2023 by JimTripper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJ71 Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 On 12/23/2023 at 5:51 AM, Aviatorhi said: You'd be shocked at how many tourists are even bigger losers who fly half way around the world to pour alcohol into a drunk "manager's" gullet. Soi 6 used to be a great place to hang out 10 or more years ago... Now? See above post. 20 years, not 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quake Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 (edited) On 11/28/2023 at 5:05 PM, JeffersLos said: They do cheap short times for the Indians. Is that a two for one deal as well ? Just asking for an out of work, suit salesmen. Edited December 26, 2023 by quake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 On 12/24/2023 at 12:36 PM, JimTripper said: It's people that have developed some sort of emotional connection with the owner. I get that a lot in Pattaya. People acting like a buddy when it's just a professional transaction and there's no trust built up yet. Examples are real estate agents, bar owners, restaurants, etc. There's so much competition that just providing a good service is not enough so they try to act like a buddy or friend to get repeat business, good reviews or referrals. You can tell they are doing when it feels overly friendly or familiar for no reason. Nevertheless, there are bar managers hired because they bring in the customers. In rare cases, there have been bar managers who get barfined by Thai ladies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Tom Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 11:22 AM, Everyman said: What is with these guys? Are they just losers who hang around the bar? Are they paid? Why are they needed? Pimps, pure and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 2 hours ago, Doctor Tom said: Pimps, pure and simple. Not really sure that's accurate as they don't control the girls. Nevertheless a good manager will help the girls make more money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Tom Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 13 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said: Nevertheless a good manager will help the girls make more money. That surely is the very definition of a pimp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 12 hours ago, Danderman123 said: Nevertheless, there are bar managers hired because they bring in the customers. In rare cases, there have been bar managers who get barfined by Thai ladies. Or to keep an eye on things. I have heard of a farang bar manager being barfined too. But mostly, feedback I got from owners, was that attractive girls is the best pull... although one also told me the one katoey he employed was the best performer, as per getting taken off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, jacko45k said: Or to keep an eye on things. I have heard of a farang bar manager being barfined too. But mostly, feedback I got from owners, was that attractive girls is the best pull... although one also told me the one katoey he employed was the best performer, as per getting taken off. Bar managers getting barfined by ladies is very rare. And yes, Plai gets barfined a lot. But not by ladies. Edited December 26, 2023 by Danderman123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 13 hours ago, Doctor Tom said: That surely is the very definition of a pimp? Not really. A pimp takes a cut of his girl's money; a soi 6 manager's role ends once the girl is in the room with her customer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJ71 Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 Loads of Soi 6 experts on here - sad. I wouldn't touch any of them, total road kill. Stirring the porridge in a skank in a crack den looking room - no thanks, that's desperate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Tom Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 6 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said: Not really. A pimp takes a cut of his girl's money; a soi 6 manager's role ends once the girl is in the room with her customer. Yes really, the pimp takes a wage from the bar fines. I know for a fact that some bars operate a bonus reward system depending on how many bar fines go into the pot. Don't try and gloss over the obvious. Personally, I don't give a monkeys what goes on in Soi 6, or any other of those bars, but let's not pretend they are just good, hard working folk, with an above board job as a 'manager'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 12:47 PM, Everyman said: there are a lot now. and there is a high turnover rate. despite assertions to the contrary, i think they are just losers who hang out there and give themselves job titles. i doubt they are paid. it’s not like anyone will buy them lady drinks, and if they did, the bar would think they are taking one away that a girl could get. They are getting paid if they are the manager. and drink for free. Who is the loser now? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2baht Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 11:22 AM, Everyman said: What is with these guys? Are they just losers who hang around the bar? Are they paid? Why are they needed? I think anyone who hangs around Soi 6 is a loser! Sleaze central! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Tom Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said: They are getting paid if they are the manager. and drink for free. Who is the loser now? Personally, that's not how I live my life, or measure my life's successes, but each to his or her own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 15 minutes ago, Doctor Tom said: Yes really, the pimp takes a wage from the bar fines. I know for a fact that some bars operate a bonus reward system depending on how many bar fines go into the pot. Don't try and gloss over the obvious. Personally, I don't give a monkeys what goes on in Soi 6, or any other of those bars, but let's not pretend they are just good, hard working folk, with an above board job as a 'manager'. The barfine is just to release the girl from her bar duties. She charges the client for the sex and none of that goes to the bar manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said: The barfine is just to release the girl from her bar duties. She charges the client for the sex and none of that goes to the bar manager. She doesn't charge for sex, the sex is free and taxi home the next day is 1500 Baht 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAFETY FIRST Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 11:22 AM, Everyman said: What is with these guys? Are they just losers who hang around the bar? Are they paid? Why are they needed? They are there for you to buy them lady drinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 10 minutes ago, Doctor Tom said: Personally, that's not how I live my life, or measure my life's successes, but each to his or her own. I don't live like that but someone who needs to buy the girls a drink to talk to him, calling people who are employed in the bar and can talk and drink for free losers, should look in the mirror more often. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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