Turns out it was Dengue.

[xtrnuno41]

One down , several to go: 

Diseases transmitted by mosquitoes include malaria, dengue, West Nile virus, chikungunya, yellow fever,[1] filariasis, tularemia, dirofilariasis, Japanese encephalitis, Saint Louis encephalitis, Western equine encephalitis, Eastern equine encephalitis,[2] Venezuelan equine encephalitis, Ross River fever, Barmah Forest fever, La Crosse encephalitis, and Zika fever,[2] as well as newly detected Keystone virus and Rift Valley fever. 

 

Nearly 700 million people get a mosquito-borne illness each year resulting in over 725,000 deaths.

 

One study found Dengue virus and Zika virus altered the skin bacteria of rats in a way that caused their body odor to be more attractive to mosquitoes !

Interesting ! You get more females  for a visit and they get all infected then, so it spreads.

 

To date, there are relatively few vaccines against mosquito-borne diseases, this is due to the fact that most viruses and bacteria caused by mosquitos are highly mutatable. The National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease (NIAID) began Phase 1 clinical trials of a new vaccine that would be nearly universal in protecting against the majority of mosquito-borne diseases.

 

It is a miracle im still alive

[steven100]

2 hours ago, novacova said:

I keep a mixture of mupirocin and doxycycline and whenever I’m attacked by a mosquito then apply it on the bite. If I suspect the mosquito is infected with dengue then pop a doxy tab. I’ve been bitten twice this year and only applied mupirocin/doxy. I’ve taken a doxy tab once as a dengue prophylactic. Had dengue before, never again.

your remedy will not stop or block you getting dengue fever ...   

[KhunLA]

3 hours ago, KannikaP said:

It is NOT contagious. Only from that damned female mosquito.

Where do you think the mosquito got it, and how it is transmitted ?

 

Damn humans ... 

 

"Aedes aegypti has evolved into an intermittent biter and  prefers to bite more than one person during the feeding period. This mechanism has made Aedes aegypti a very highly efficient epidemic vector mosquito."

 

 

"Dengue virus is transmitted to humans through the bites of infected female Aedes mosquitoes. Mosquitoes generally acquire the virus while feeding on blood of an infected person. After virus incubation for 8-10 days, an infected mosquito is capable, while feeding, of transmitting the virus to humans for the rest of the mosquito's life.

 

Immunity to one of the four types of viruses does not protect a person from infection by another type.'

[steven100]

2 hours ago, novacova said:

I keep a mixture of mupirocin and doxycycline and whenever I’m attacked by a mosquito then apply it on the bite. If I suspect the mosquito is infected with dengue then pop a doxy tab. I’ve been bitten twice this year and only applied mupirocin/doxy. I’ve taken a doxy tab once as a dengue prophylactic. Had dengue before, never again.

your remedy will not stop or block you getting dengue fever ... 

[Sheryl]

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[Lorry]

9 hours ago, novacova said:

I keep a mixture of mupirocin and doxycycline and whenever I’m attacked by a mosquito then apply it on the bite. If I suspect the mosquito is infected with dengue then pop a doxy tab. I’ve been bitten twice this year and only applied mupirocin/doxy. I’ve taken a doxy tab once as a dengue prophylactic. Had dengue before, never again.

Neither doxycycline nor mupirocin (both antibiotics) have any effect on the dengue virus. Doxy tabs are not a prophylactic against Dengue. 

[SAFETY FIRST]

9 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

10 hours ago, KannikaP said:

It is NOT contagious. Only from that damned female mosquito.

How little you know, any Aedes Aegypti mosquito could have bitten

Only female mosquitoes bite people 

 

[Mike Lister]

11 hours ago, novacova said:

I keep a mixture of mupirocin and doxycycline and whenever I’m attacked by a mosquito then apply it on the bite. If I suspect the mosquito is infected with dengue then pop a doxy tab. I’ve been bitten twice this year and only applied mupirocin/doxy. I’ve taken a doxy tab once as a dengue prophylactic. Had dengue before, never again.

That's really dangerous, not only does that not work against dengue but it will also lead to antibiotic resistance.

[scubascuba3]

3 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Only female mosquitoes bite people 

 

Yes, old news

[SAFETY FIRST]

11 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Yes, old news

Not on this thread, I'm the first to mention here. 

 

Did you read the comment, KannikaP was referring to female mosquito? 

Edited December 24, 2023 by SAFETY FIRST

[scubascuba3]

2 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Not on this thread, I'm the first to mention here. 

 

Did you read the comment, KannikaP was referring to female mosquito? 

Yes old news, in fact so old not worth mentioning. So in your condo you allow male mosquitoes in females no entry?

[novacova]

13 hours ago, steven100 said:

your remedy will not stop or block you getting dengue fever ...   

sure it will 

4 hours ago, Mike Lister said:

That's really dangerous, not only does that not work against dengue but it will also lead to antibiotic resistance.

One tab used as a prophylactic certainly is not dangerous 

6 hours ago, Lorry said:

Neither doxycycline nor mupirocin (both antibiotics) have any effect on the dengue virus. Doxy tabs are not a prophylactic against Dengue. 

Sue it does 

13 hours ago, steven100 said:

your remedy will not stop or block you getting dengue fever ... 

oh…but you’re so wrong considering clinical studies have proven otherwise. 
 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25858261/

[KhunLA]

6 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Only female mosquitoes bite people 

But what about trans males ...

... call me a bigot, but I don't let any of those suckers in the house.

 

On topic, think i had dengue once, early on here, and it's not pleasant, if a semi bad case.  Knocks you for a loop.  Flu symptoms X 5 ... talk about sore all over.

 

And antibiotics don't work on viral infections.  Just treat the symptoms, is best you can do.  As most things, it will pass in couple week at worse.

 

Unless you get the hemorrhage version ... then you're screwed.   I think most know by now, getting one strain, doesn't protect you from the other 3, and supposedly repeat infections are worse.

 

Cover up out there, especially below the waste when having that full English brekke, as they do love the cover of 'under the table' feeding.  Basstards

Edited December 25, 2023 by KhunLA

[SAFETY FIRST]

6 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

but what about trans males ...

Are we allowed to talk about mosquito gender, we don't want to offend 😜

 

[SAFETY FIRST]

24 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Yes old news, in fact so old not worth mentioning. So in your condo you allow male mosquitoes in females no entry?

I prefer male mosquitoes, no biting. 

 

[KhunLA]

18 minutes ago, novacova said:

sure it will 

One tab used as a prophylactic certainly is not dangerous 

Sue it does 

oh…but you’re so wrong considering clinical studies have proven otherwise. 
 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25858261/

"Conclusion: The above findings suggest that doxycycline can provide a clinical benefit to dengue patients at high risk of complications. This effect could be mediated by decreasing pro-inflammatory cytokine levels."

 

I'm reading the as protection against other infections, due to a compromised immune system being quite busy fighting the dengue virus.  Not the virus itself, or as a PrEP.

 

Unless you actually see the mozzie, (quite a distinguishing look), then taking doxy every time you get bit isn't a good idea, as you may build a tolerance to it's effectiveness when you do need it ... or so I read.

Edited December 25, 2023 by KhunLA

[scubascuba3]

7 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Unless you actually see the mozzie, (quite a distinguishing look), then taking doxy every time you get bit isn't a good idea, as you may build a tolerance to it's effectiveness when you do need it ... or so I read.

would be nice to see a link for that? or maybe it's a myth that keeps getting repeated

[baansgr]

17 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

I had it before.  The Doctor told me,the second case of it can be much worse.

Glad to hear you are doing better

 

https://www.samitivejhospitals.com/article/detail/Dengue-Fever

I had it 7 years ago and then again 1 month ago...I was under the assumption severe (2nd) case would be worse...it was bad but not as bad as 1st time...I've now read there are 4 strains, so could possibly get again. It has been prevelant in Pattaya this year

[novacova]

17 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

"Conclusion: The above findings suggest that doxycycline can provide a clinical benefit to dengue patients at high risk of complications. This effect could be mediated by decreasing pro-inflammatory cytokine levels."

 

I'm reading the as protection against other infections, due to a compromised immune system being quite busy fighting the dengue virus.  Not the virus itself, or as a PrEP.

 

Unless you actually see the mozzie, (quite a distinguishing look), then taking doxy every time you get bit isn't a good idea, as you may build a tolerance to it's effectiveness when you do need it ... or so I read.

Not going to build up a resistance taking a single docy once or twice a year, nor by applying topical. I’ll continue to do whatever preventative measures to avoid dengue. Anyone else is simply welcome to deny it.

[GroveHillWanderer]

47 minutes ago, novacova said:

oh…but you’re so wrong considering clinical studies have proven otherwise. 
 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25858261/

That study shows decreased mortality in patients with clinically-confirmed dengue hemorrhagic fever, after receiving two doxycycline tablets a day for seven days.

 

It does not show that a single doxycycline tablets is effective as a prophylactic measure to prevent a person developing dengue fever after being bitten.

Edited December 25, 2023 by GroveHillWanderer

[KhunLA]

10 minutes ago, baansgr said:

I had it 7 years ago and then again 1 month ago...I was under the assumption severe (2nd) case would be worse...it was bad but not as bad as 1st time...I've now read there are 4 strains, so could possibly get again. It has been prevelant in Pattaya this year

That's good to know, and 1st was enough for me, and would hate to get a worse case.  Definitely put that up there with the worst symptoms of any infection that I've had.

 

DISCLAIMER: I'm a wimp when it comes to infections.  Thankfully not prone to them.  Pain I can deal with, but breathing congestion & sore joints (all of them), not pleasant.  Not to mention digestive issues purging from both ends.   Got to love sharing 

Edited December 25, 2023 by KhunLA

[Sheryl]

7 hours ago, Lorry said:

Neither doxycycline nor mupirocin (both antibiotics) have any effect on the dengue virus. Doxy tabs are not a prophylactic against Dengue. 

Correct. They have  no preventive effec t against dengue whatsoever.

 

Doxycycline  does have some use as prevention for malaria but for that, must be taken daily starting 102 days before entering the malarial area and then for a month after leaving it. In Thailand, malarial areas are few and mostly deep jungle.

[Sheryl]

1 hour ago, baansgr said:

I had it 7 years ago and then again 1 month ago...I was under the assumption severe (2nd) case would be worse...it was bad but not as bad as 1st time...I've now read there are 4 strains, so could possibly get again. It has been prevelant in Pattaya this year

It is not always the case that subsequent infections are worse. I had it 3-4 times (4th infection a bit in doubt)  and only the 1st time was bad. The other times,  others in the same household had it ,  I was a bit achy and tired (but still able to work), but not sure I had it until the rash broke. Interesting the rash was almost imperceptible after  the first, bad, infections (2 weeks in hospital; it hurt to even breath let alone move and I couldn't keep anything down), but very pronounced and itchy with the subsequent infections. 

 

However it is true that severe/complicated  dengue more often happens in subsequent that first infections -- but not exclusively so, occasionally severe dengue hits people with no prior dengue infection.

 

When I worked in the border refugee camps in the early 1980's, a continuous supply of new, non-immune  farangs  housed in traditional Thai houses with open water jars etc led to a huge number of farangs with dengue every rainy season. So in addition to having it myself several times I got to witness countless farangs with it. One or two - -who had never lived in SEA Asia before -- got hemorrhagic dengue despite it being their 1st infection. Most did not, and the range of severity of people with simple dengue (maybe 98% of all who got it) ranged widely from very mild to severe enough to need hospitalization (due to the pain and dehydration).

[GroveHillWanderer]

16 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

Correct. They have  no preventive effec t against dengue whatsoever.

 

Doxycycline  does have some use as prevention for malaria but for that, must be taken daily starting 102 days before entering the malarial area and then for a month after leaving it. In Thailand, malarial areas are few and mostly deep jungle.

102 days before, or 1-2 days?

[Moonlover]

18 hours ago, KannikaP said:

18 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Sounded like Dengue when you mentioned it before especially as your GF had it

 

18 hours ago, KannikaP said:

It is NOT contagious. Only from that damned female mosquito.

True, it is not contagious. But we humans act unwittingly as vectors. The virus is passed on from one victim to the next by the mosquitoes as they go around collecting their blood meals. Malaria is passed on in the same way.

[Sheryl]

51 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

102 days before, or 1-2 days?

1-2  sorry, typo

[novacova]

1 hour ago, Sheryl said:

Correct. They have  no preventive effec t against dengue whatsoever.

 

Doxycycline  does have some use as prevention for malaria but for that, must be taken daily starting 102 days before entering the malarial area and then for a month after leaving it. In Thailand, malarial areas are few and mostly deep jungle.

Why deny any measure of prevention? 

https://www.ijcp.in/Admin/CMS/PDF/11. InternalMedicine_IJCP_JULY_2018.pdf

 

 

Edited December 25, 2023 by novacova

[Lacessit]

17 hours ago, Mike Lister said:

"While they can seem pointless and purely irritating to us humans, mosquitoes do play a substantial role in the ecosystem. Mosquitoes form an important source of biomass in the food chain—serving as food for fish as larvae and for birds, bats and frogs as adult flies—and some species are important pollinators".

 

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/mosquitos-exist-elephants-donkeys-used-represent-gop-democrats-180973517/#:~:text=While they can seem pointless,some species are important pollinators.

 

I very nearly substituted the word Australians for Mosquitoes but please note that I didn't. :))

What have you got against Australians?

[Mike Lister]

Just now, Lacessit said:

What have you got against Australians?

It was a joke between grumpy and myself, or anyone else that has a sense of humour, which appears to exclude you.

[Lacessit]

1 minute ago, Mike Lister said:

It was a joke between grumpy and myself, or anyone else that has a sense of humour, which appears to exclude you.

And a Merry Christmas to you too.