Pot industry pushes back against draft law that would put an end to Thailand’s cannabis revolution

[JBChiangRai]

16 minutes ago, Dr Jon said:

Psychosis, schizophrenia, cancer, birth defects... what's not to like?

 

2 minutes ago, stoner said:

 

you have any troll links to go along with all this bs ? 

 

Don't be obtuse.  I'm sure you well aware that is the opinion of the medical profession in every educated country.

[phitsanulokjohn]

Push,push in, and for the bush.

[stoner]

2 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

 

Don't be obtuse.  I'm sure you well aware that is the opinion of the medical profession in every educated country.

 

quite generalizing. it's a little more complicated than that. i am sure you are well aware. 

Edited January 15 by stoner

[JBChiangRai]

1 minute ago, stoner said:

 

quite generalizing. it's a little more complicated than that. i am sure you are well aware. 

 

No, it really is that simple.

 

And that is before we look at the problems it generates in the judiciary.

[stoner]

1 minute ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

No, it really is that simple.

 

And that is before we look at the problems it generates in the judiciary.

 

no it really isn't but hey you keep doing you. 

[smedly]

52 minutes ago, Denim said:

Are you speaking from personal experience ? 

depends on what you mean, I have observed friends that slowly went downhill due to heavy weed consumption, they are now virtual basket cases

Edited January 15 by smedly

[stoner]

Just now, smedly said:

depends on what you mean, I have observed friends that slowly went downhill due to heavy we consumption, they are now virtual basket cases

 

and those of us who continue to improve ourselves and work hard ?

[The Old Bull]

28 minutes ago, Dr Jon said:

Psychosis, schizophrenia, cancer, birth defects... what's not to like?

You don't have to smoke it if you don't like it.

[ezzra]

3 hours ago, smedly said:

Thailand has enough to deal with regarding alcohol - it does not need another drug rampaging society, excessive use of weed has been shown to cause long term brain damage - many studies have shown this

If they want to repels a law where they have encouraged people to invest millions in this business they should fully compensate

them all to the last penny and make sure to help them find work or alternative business, but as we all know only too well, TIT....

[Charlest1971]

3 hours ago, lexxy said:

 

No word, insight or consideration for the benefits of medical marijuana?  - many studies have shown this.

 

 

Yes, but medical use, only usually involves CBD, and not the ‘high’ inducing THC element of Cannabis. And yet most of the marijuana, sold in Thailand, is packed with THC, for recreational use. So, no there are no medical benefits of THC based pot. 🤷‍♀️

[JBChiangRai]

7 minutes ago, The Old Bull said:

You don't have to smoke it if you don't like it.

 

No, but he and his colleagues had to deal with the problems it caused.  I had to deal with the legal issues it caused.

 

5 minutes ago, ezzra said:

If they want to repels a law where they have encouraged people to invest millions in this business they should fully compensate

them all to the last penny and make sure to help them find work or alternative business, but as we all know only too well, TIT....

 

Nonsense, they never encouraged anyone to open a cannabis shop servicing recreational cannabis - actually they said the opposite no recreational cannabis, you don't compensate stupidity.

[stoner]

3 minutes ago, Charlest1971 said:

So, no there are no medical benefits of THC based pot.

 

not true. 

 

the entourage effect is well documented and in the past year has been shown to be extremely vital for the cannabinoids to be fully effective. 

[JBChiangRai]

2 minutes ago, stoner said:

 

not true. 

 

the entourage effect is well documented and in the past year has been shown to be extremely vital for the cannabinoids to be fully effective. 

 

The entourage effect is nothing more than a hypothesis, it has not been shown to be factual.

[gravity101]

1 hour ago, Shocked farang said:

There is a YouTuber who interviewed a cannabis store owner (a big shop on Sukhunwit Rd) and this guy claims

that he's totally prepared for what is coming as next to the shop he has a clinic that will employ many Thai traditional medicine doctors who will be able to issue prescriptions for any recreational customer who needs one! Brilliant!!!

Yep. The recreational industry will play whac-a-mole with the current law at the time and supplement any grey areas with envelopes.

[Thaindrew]

22 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

No, but he and his colleagues had to deal with the problems it caused.  I had to deal with the legal issues it caused.

 

 

Nonsense, they never encouraged anyone to open a cannabis shop servicing recreational cannabis - actually they said the opposite no recreational cannabis, you don't compensate stupidity.

they did though issue licenses to these shops which employed no medical personal knowing full well that the shops would not be operating as "medical only". 

[Denim]

34 minutes ago, smedly said:

depends on what you mean, I have observed friends that slowly went downhill due to heavy weed consumption, they are now virtual basket cases

 

Same as alcohol abuse then. So they really need to allow only alcohol free beer and wine etc. Pretty urgently I would say from my personal observations of alcohol abuse.

[JBChiangRai]

3 minutes ago, Thaindrew said:

they did though issue licenses to these shops which employed no medical personal knowing full well that the shops would not be operating as "medical only". 

 

They also said no recreational use, the shops decided to take the risk, risks don't always pay off.

 

2 minutes ago, Denim said:

 

Same as alcohol abuse then. So they really need to allow only alcohol free beer and wine etc. Pretty urgently I would say from my personal observations of alcohol abuse.

 

Alcohol is another subject entirely.  It's not relevant to use alcohol as an excuse to allow recreational cannabis use, and it's off topic.

[Thingamabob]

4 hours ago, smedly said:

Thailand has enough to deal with regarding alcohol - it does not need another drug rampaging society, excessive use of weed has been shown to cause long term brain damage - many studies have shown this

Rubbish.

[Trippy]

The only difference between medical and recreational use is a piece of paper.

 

Don't worry about the haters, be happy!

Edited January 15 by Trippy

[jacko45k]

9 minutes ago, Denim said:

 

Same as alcohol abuse then. So they really need to allow only alcohol free beer and wine etc. Pretty urgently I would say from my personal observations of alcohol abuse.

Think of the number of people and businesses that would be out of work if that were the case. I would not have been out and about chucking money around for the first 15 years in Thailand! That said, in old age, I might welcome a few places that did not serve alcohol, yet had the 'other' entertainment. Currently I cannot trust myself.... it would be 'just the one'... and on to Nirvana!

[Denim]

1 minute ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

They also said no recreational use, the shops decided to take the risk, risks don't always pay off.

 

 

Alcohol is another subject entirely.  It's not relevant to use alcohol as an excuse to allow recreational cannabis use, and it's off topic.

 

Disagree entirely.  They are both drugs that effect the behavior of the taker. One is widely accepted and is behind a lot of mayhem and deaths the other is frowned on and is not known for causing aggressive behavior.

 

You can't cherry pick with drugs and just ok the ones you like and are familier with. If there is going to be an argument that cannabis is undesireable for whatever reason then those same reasons should be applied to all drugs without bias.

 

Personnaly , if there is one aspect of the cannabis legalization that I find tiresome it is the ' in your face ' advertising.  If it is illegal to have alcohol or cigarette advertising the same should apply to cannabis. That would mean no more shops with daft fronts that have become a bit of an eyesore in tourist areas.

[JBChiangRai]

1 minute ago, Trippy said:

The only difference between medical and recreational use is a piece of paper.

 

Initially.  Down the line it can be vastly different.

[smedly]

17 minutes ago, Denim said:

 

Same as alcohol abuse then. So they really need to allow only alcohol free beer and wine etc. Pretty urgently I would say from my personal observations of alcohol abuse.

That's the "enough to deal with" included in my first post on this thread, adding to it is the wrong direction

[JBChiangRai]

1 minute ago, Denim said:

 

Disagree entirely.  They are both drugs that effect the behavior of the taker. One is widely accepted and is behind a lot of mayhem and deaths the other is frowned on and is not known for causing aggressive behavior.

 

You can't cherry pick with drugs and just ok the ones you like and are familier with. If there is going to be an argument that cannabis is undesireable for whatever reason then those same reasons should be applied to all drugs without bias.

 

Personnaly , if there is one aspect of the cannabis legalization that I find tiresome it is the ' in your face ' advertising.  If it is illegal to have alcohol or cigarette advertising the same should apply to cannabis. That would mean no more shops with daft fronts that have become a bit of an eyesore in tourist areas.

 

Without debating the benefits of each, I won't disagree with you, but this thread is about cannabis and not alcohol.

 

Whataboutism is not relevant here.

[JackGats]

The charade of medical use. Bloody medical establishment want to rule the world and have their cut in everything. Cannabis has always been about getting high. Same in the US. If all you want to legalise is CBD then you're not legalising anything. And if you want to criminalise "non-medical use" then you're (re)criminalising cannabis, period.

 

 

[stoner]

35 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

The entourage effect is nothing more than a hypothesis, it has not been shown to be factual.

 

wrong. again, you keep doing you though. 

[Peterphuket]

2 hours ago, Gknrd said:

And 2030, to increase the tourist numbers  current Thai government has legalized opium. Spurring and increase of tourists in the "Golden Triangle"  TAT says a win win for Thailand.

No, not opium that's old fashioned but Cocaine!

[connda]

4 hours ago, smedly said:

Thailand has enough to deal with regarding alcohol - it does not need another drug rampaging society, excessive use of weed has been shown to cause long term brain damage - many studies have shown this

OP's claim:  "Many studies have shown this"

Can you provide citations or links to the studies that support your statement as per Forum Rule 5?

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[JBChiangRai]

1 minute ago, stoner said:

 

wrong. again, you keep doing you though. 

 

Then post a peer reviewed study to prove your claim. 

[connda]

1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

If we are to believe Anutin, his expectation was for the market to be medical cannabis and not recreational cannabis.

 

You don't need a study to see that the reverse happened, expectation and reality couldn't be more different.

 

IMHO, it's nothing less than you can expect from the "quality" politicians we have in Thailand.

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