Not PM2.5 but ozone! "Very unhealthy" right now in Bangkok

[anyone]

https://weather.com/forecast/air-quality

[nauseus]

23 minutes ago, anyone said:

https://weather.com/forecast/air-quality

 

Oops! We are having trouble finding your page.

[anyone]

https://weather.com/forecast/air-quality/l/959cf4a42b28680a5c17bd32fd270d7cc25ce0a1058cebc035fb9e16d0b30fe0

[flyingtlger]

Thailand should change their name to Smogland...

 

[Njoku]

3 hours ago, flyingtlger said:

Thailand should change their name to Smogland...

 

Fires are in Maynamar and Cambodia as well, bit rough to dump it all on the Thai's.

[anyone]

What surprises me more is that ozone is recognized as a dangerous pollutant.

[Chris Daley]

I just sit here and eat my potato/taro sweet fried stale donuts and breath in deep.

[ChaiyaTH]

Not sure where you get that reading from, it's max average 44 for ozone in Bangkok today. The normal general reading (PM2.5) is 100-200 today.

Edited January 21 by ChaiyaTH

[Lorry]

Not too bad for Bangkok. 

[Lacessit]

I am wondering if anyone has taken the trouble to measure ozone emissions from electric cars.

[Drumbuie]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

I am wondering if anyone has taken the trouble to measure ozone emissions from electric cars.

Electric cars don't have tailpipe emissions of any kind. 

[VocalNeal]

19 hours ago, ChaiyaTH said:

it's max average 44 for ozone in Bangkok today.

Is there a desktop widget that people can buy to measure that🤔

[VocalNeal]

4 minutes ago, Drumbuie said:

Electric cars don't have tailpipe emissions of any kind. 

 

No, but it is possible the electric motors produce it. I'm sure that was the funny smell coming off my electric train all those years ago,

[Presnock]

1 hour ago, VocalNeal said:

Is there a desktop widget that people can buy to measure that🤔

Lazada and probably shoppee both have all kinds of measuring widgets, cheap and/or expensive - can check to see what gets measure when you turn it on.  Today air is horrible here in BKK.

 

[AgMech Cowboy]

On 1/21/2024 at 6:14 AM, flyingtlger said:

Thailand should change their name to Smogland...

 

There are a number of places around the world that could stake a claim on that name.

[Lacessit]

2 hours ago, Drumbuie said:

Electric cars don't have tailpipe emissions of any kind. 

It would be difficult for them to have tailpipe emissions when they have no tailpipe.

 

The drive shaft of an EV is effectively an armature, producing electric current as it turns in a magnetic field. Any electrical discharge will create ozone.

 

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/cind.818_3.x

 

 

 

 

[john donson]

the government has an easy solution, double again the safe limits, thailand special, they are already double above the limit for the rest of the world...

[Paris333]

Why the car rental companies Hertz and Sixt are separating from Tesla
The US car rental company is listing its electric models, especially vehicles from the Musk Group. The German company Sixt is also foregoing Tesla. What's behind it?

 

As to the reasons for the change in strategy, the landlord referred to the high costs of repairs and damage to the electric vehicles. The company said that expenses for repairs after accidents, particularly for electric cars, were high in the fourth quarter.
Hertz estimated the write-offs at about $245 million. “This accordingly supports the decision to reduce the electric car fleet,” it said.
Competitor Sixt had recently announced that it would no longer rent out Tesla electric cars due to weak resale values, and also pointed to higher repair costs.
In Europe, private demand for electric vehicles had recently cooled down noticeably, partly due to the cancellation of public subsidies. 
With the news that the car rental company is now increasingly sorting out electric cars, quality problems with the vehicles are also coming into focus. Because there are currently significantly fewer electric vehicles than combustion engines on the market and they are relatively young, the data available on the vehicles is limited. According to testing experts from TÜV, the axle suspension and brake discs in particular are considered to be frequent defects in electric vehicles. 

Data from Bloomberg NEF for Munich and Orlando airports, both locations with a particularly large number of rental stations, show: If providers such as Sixt or Hertz earn an average of $8.40 more per week for combustion engines for every $1,000 invested in their fleet, the figure for electric cars is $8.40 more just $5.20 per week.

Source:

https://www.handelsblatt.com/unternehmen/industrie/mobilitaet-warum-sich-die-autovermieter-hertz-und-sixt-von-tesla-trennen-01/100006130.html

[Liverpool Lou]

8 hours ago, Paris333 said:

Why the car rental companies Hertz and Sixt are separating from Tesla
The US car rental company is listing its electric models, especially vehicles from the Musk Group. The German company Sixt is also foregoing Tesla. What's behind it?

 

As to the reasons for the change in strategy, the landlord referred to the high costs of repairs and damage to the electric vehicles. The company said that expenses for repairs after accidents, particularly for electric cars, were high in the fourth quarter.
Hertz estimated the write-offs at about $245 million. “This accordingly supports the decision to reduce the electric car fleet,” it said.
Competitor Sixt had recently announced that it would no longer rent out Tesla electric cars due to weak resale values, and also pointed to higher repair costs.
In Europe, private demand for electric vehicles had recently cooled down noticeably, partly due to the cancellation of public subsidies. 
With the news that the car rental company is now increasingly sorting out electric cars, quality problems with the vehicles are also coming into focus. Because there are currently significantly fewer electric vehicles than combustion engines on the market and they are relatively young, the data available on the vehicles is limited. According to testing experts from TÜV, the axle suspension and brake discs in particular are considered to be frequent defects in electric vehicles. 

Data from Bloomberg NEF for Munich and Orlando airports, both locations with a particularly large number of rental stations, show: If providers such as Sixt or Hertz earn an average of $8.40 more per week for combustion engines for every $1,000 invested in their fleet, the figure for electric cars is $8.40 more just $5.20 per week.

Source:

https://www.handelsblatt.com/unternehmen/industrie/mobilitaet-warum-sich-die-autovermieter-hertz-und-sixt-von-tesla-trennen-01/100006130.html

What's all that got to do with ozone?

[Arindos]

15 hours ago, Paris333 said:

Why the car rental companies Hertz and Sixt are separating from Tesla
The US car rental company is listing its electric models, especially vehicles from the Musk Group. The German company Sixt is also foregoing Tesla. What's behind it?

 

As to the reasons for the change in strategy, the landlord referred to the high costs of repairs and damage to the electric vehicles. The company said that expenses for repairs after accidents, particularly for electric cars, were high in the fourth quarter.
Hertz estimated the write-offs at about $245 million. “This accordingly supports the decision to reduce the electric car fleet,” it said.
Competitor Sixt had recently announced that it would no longer rent out Tesla electric cars due to weak resale values, and also pointed to higher repair costs.
In Europe, private demand for electric vehicles had recently cooled down noticeably, partly due to the cancellation of public subsidies. 
With the news that the car rental company is now increasingly sorting out electric cars, quality problems with the vehicles are also coming into focus. Because there are currently significantly fewer electric vehicles than combustion engines on the market and they are relatively young, the data available on the vehicles is limited. According to testing experts from TÜV, the axle suspension and brake discs in particular are considered to be frequent defects in electric vehicles. 

Data from Bloomberg NEF for Munich and Orlando airports, both locations with a particularly large number of rental stations, show: If providers such as Sixt or Hertz earn an average of $8.40 more per week for combustion engines for every $1,000 invested in their fleet, the figure for electric cars is $8.40 more just $5.20 per week.

Source:

https://www.handelsblatt.com/unternehmen/industrie/mobilitaet-warum-sich-die-autovermieter-hertz-und-sixt-von-tesla-trennen-01/100006130.html

 

This is why a Japanese car is still more popular than Telsa or Chinese cars. They are much more reliable and still affordable.