itsari Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 2 minutes ago, JimTripper said: I assume you don't help everybody you meet. What did you see in this particular person that made you want to help him? We have had a long friendship and had many drinks and humour together for the past 8 years He has a different set of rules in life and I have accepted that. When I say that I mean that he is sitting all day doing little while I am busy working at home. The lady at home has not liked me being friends with him as well. I simply wanted to help him as I could see that all his options had been closed regarding short term visas. He had been a tourist for over 10 years.We would discuss the immigration rules for the Next move as in a game of chess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttradit Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 4 minutes ago, itsari said: We have had a long friendship and had many drinks and humour together for the past 8 years He has a different set of rules in life and I have accepted that. When I say that I mean that he is sitting all day doing little while I am busy working at home. The lady at home has not liked me being friends with him as well. I simply wanted to help him as I could see that all his options had been closed regarding short term visas. He had been a tourist for over 10 years.We would discuss the immigration rules for the Next move as in a game of chess. Does he ever work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttradit Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 14 hours ago, georgegeorgia said: you avoid expats? Have you found them to be great friends What do you do in Thailand? Mix with women? Hang out in bars with expats? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRich Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 2 hours ago, itsari said: I have met many foreigners here living in Thailand and one Californian man I was good friends with . He needed help with getting a visa and I loaned him 25000 to pay an agent . Now 8 months later still no return of the money even though he promised the money back in 2 months. I do not want to see him again as I don't want any trouble. I have done something similar, with an ex work colleague, who borrowed money that he promised to pay back in 6 weeks, then 3 months, then never heard from him, and he wouldn’t respond to my emails. When I finally reached him (long story) he accused me of harassing him! I’m an obstinate character, so long story, I got my money back. I was very aware that it is unwise to lend money, but I went ahead anyway. I learned a valuable lesson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigmund Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 What can one expect with all the young tourist drunk brits or australians , dutch, germans or others, high on booze or weed ? These are the quality tourists ? fine, but then don't complain. These young tourists usually bring more trouble then money, It's the retirees who own property in Thailand who must be encouraged to get facilitated retirement long stay visa, no matter from which country they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttradit Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 3 minutes ago, AlexRich said: I have done something similar, with an ex work colleague, who borrowed money that he promised to pay back in 6 weeks, then 3 months, then never heard from him, and he wouldn’t respond to my emails. When I finally reached him (long story) he accused me of harassing him! I’m an obstinate character, so long story, I got my money back. I was very aware that it is unwise to lend money, but I went ahead anyway. I learned a valuable lesson. I once lent money to a family member. Took 5 years to get it back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searat7 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 I have found it best to have a rule not to loan money in Thailand. In 19 years I have lost only 10,000 b which is not bad. If I see a good friend in need I would rather make the offer to help him out with a gift of money which was very much appreciated during Covid when I was stuck in my home country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRich Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Just now, uttradit said: I once lent money to a family member. Took 5 years to get it back. I’m impressed by your perseverance. I didn’t care about the money, I was more enraged by his deceit. If he had called me and said it might take a year or two, I would have been fine - but when he cut communication I realised he was duping me from the beginning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRich Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 5 minutes ago, Searat7 said: I have found it best to have a rule not to loan money in Thailand. In 19 years I have lost only 10,000 b which is not bad. If I see a good friend in need I would rather make the offer to help him out with a gift of money which was very much appreciated during Covid when I was stuck in my home country. That makes sense. My loan days are over. Never again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikeItHot Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 I avoid them like the plague. I have no desire to answer the identical questions over and over again. If I sat down in a bar where I came from and was inundated with "where are you from, what do you do, how long have you been here, where do you live and who are you with?" the interviewer would leave with less teeth than he arrived with. After ten years it gets extremely tiresome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayinThailand2much Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 (edited) 14 hours ago, georgegeorgia said: Do you avoid expats? Have you found them to be great friends I talk to other expats, but mostly when I'm away on holiday. Very hard to make friends, as the pool of expats is quite small, but with a myriad of very different interests, lifestyles, and opinions. I usually avoid compatriotes. We have a saying back home: "Stay away from storm and wind, but especially from compatriots abroad!", which, from experience, I can confirm to be good advice, particularly in Thailand... Edited February 14 by StayinThailand2much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsari Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 40 minutes ago, JimTripper said: I assume you don't help everybody you meet. What did you see in this particular person that made you want to help him? Just having known him for a long time. I wanted to help him , simple as that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingstonkid Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 14 hours ago, georgegeorgia said: Just watching YouTube videos of expats in the Philippines fighting each other even though these people were friends for years in that community and all "cliques" or groups So whether your a expat in any south east Asia country do you get involved in your expat community? Whether it's Bali , Vietnam, Cambodia Thailand or in this case Philippines This example I used was a smaller city in the Philippines Do you avoid expats? Have you found them to be great friends Making friends in Thailand is no different than making friends anywhere else. You use the same rules that you would use at home. Would you lend a friend any large sums of money . If your friend got obnoxious would you still hang around with him. If he was a drunk would you stick with him> The same standards apply here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimTripper Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 31 minutes ago, AlexRich said: I have done something similar, with an ex work colleague, who borrowed money that he promised to pay back in 6 weeks, then 3 months, then never heard from him, and he wouldn’t respond to my emails. When I finally reached him (long story) he accused me of harassing him! I’m an obstinate character, so long story, I got my money back. I was very aware that it is unwise to lend money, but I went ahead anyway. I learned a valuable lesson. It's not always deceit. More likely they CAN'T pay you back. That's why they ask in the first place, no money! A lot of people want to pay it back but can't get that job or whatever so it just turns into an avoidance issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinok Farang Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 2 hours ago, Keeps said: If you had included the bogans it would have been the perfect post. My mistake,sorry mate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRich Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 3 hours ago, JimTripper said: It's not always deceit. More likely they CAN'T pay you back. That's why they ask in the first place, no money! A lot of people want to pay it back but can't get that job or whatever so it just turns into an avoidance issue. The man in question had a new job as a retail director, so he was well compensated. I only got my money back when I contacted his CEO privately ... I'm afraid on this occasion he thought he'd found a soft touch. I hadn't seen him for 10 years so the fact that he approached me probably meant that he'd already gone through a steady supply of suckers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 16 hours ago, BritManToo said: Never, too many foreigners, I only mix with other Brits. Yes I can understand that, but I also like mixing with Americans as I have a lot in common with American people and have a lot of knowledge of their country and have travelled or driven over most of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttradit Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 16 hours ago, BritManToo said: Never, too many foreigners, I only mix with other Brits. Racist or nationalist? Seems odd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 7 hours ago, itsari said: I have met many foreigners here living in Thailand and one Californian man I was good friends with . He needed help with getting a visa and I loaned him 25000 to pay an agent . Now 8 months later still no return of the money even though he promised the money back in 2 months. I do not want to see him again as I don't want any trouble. If that was me I would be going all out to find him and yes I would be violent unless he was going to take me to an ATM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 5 hours ago, itsari said: Because I don't want trouble I presume you mean. I would see red looking at him , better to stay away than cause trouble over a relatively small amount of money. Maybe you should be getting a membership of the "scared of your own shadow" brigade. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Monday Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 8 hours ago, itsari said: I have met many foreigners here living in Thailand and one Californian man I was good friends with . He needed help with getting a visa and I loaned him 25000 to pay an agent . Now 8 months later still no return of the money even though he promised the money back in 2 months. I do not want to see him again as I don't want any trouble. I hang with some foreigners that I met from Thai friends. Some of them have an attitude of they “don’t like foreigners” especially from their own country. None of these Farnungs have ever asked me for money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgegeorgia Posted February 14 Author Share Posted February 14 (edited) 11 hours ago, itsari said: I have met many foreigners here living in Thailand and one Californian man I was good friends with . He needed help with getting a visa and I loaned him 25000 to pay an agent . Now 8 months later still no return of the money even though he promised the money back in 2 months. I do not want to see him again as I don't want any trouble. You sound like a good man and he is a lowlife man ,your wife could see that . I understand you don't want to chase him ,just learn by it . He was never your friend. He used you , stay away from him ,he doesn't have your friendship anymore , he will regret that forever Edited February 14 by georgegeorgia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgegeorgia Posted February 14 Author Share Posted February 14 (edited) 8 hours ago, AlexRich said: I’m impressed by your perseverance. I didn’t care about the money, I was more enraged by his deceit. If he had called me and said it might take a year or two, I would have been fine - but when he cut communication I realised he was duping me from the beginning. Ex work colleague? Then you must of got on well at work with him from 10 years ago Others he borrowed off must of gave up chasing him I guess He was a lowlife Edited February 14 by georgegeorgia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRich Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 13 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said: Ex work colleague? Then you must of got on well at work with him from 10 years ago Others he borrowed off must of gave up chasing him I guess He was a lowlife Yes, I know better now. My only advice to anyone is never loan money to anyone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAFETY FIRST Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 (edited) 23 hours ago, georgegeorgia said: Do you avoid expats? Have you found them to be great friends Many years ago when I arrived I had loads of expat friends, sadly over the years these foreigners have died off or gone back home because of job loss, divorce etc. I have a big family now so I tend to avoid foreigners. I work offshore and tend to spend my time with other offshore workers, we always have something in common to talk about. Recent years I've noticed the BTC guys (Dodgy dudes) but they dwindled off when bitcoin slumped. It seems difficult to find an expat that's not unhinged these days, I enjoy talking to normal expats and socializing but not many about. Its always a bonus to talk with other Aussies. 🦘 Edited February 14 by SAFETY FIRST 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 People who borrow money are obviously not good with it, that alone should be enough to say cannot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 On 2/14/2024 at 11:21 AM, scubascuba3 said: Select the expats you want to socialise and spend time with, most i know are fine, avoid the rest Select the expats you want to socialise and spend time with Which in my case was none of them. I didn't move to LOS to spend time with farangs. Seems most of them don't want to get involved with other farangs anyway, as they usually deliberately looked the other way when passing me, so as to avoid eye contact. I was usually amused, rather than offended. I once tried a meeting of the expat club in Pattaya, but after 10 minutes of being ignored I decided to leave. I don't spend time in the local boozer talking BS here, so why would I do it in LOS? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimTripper Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 7 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: I once tried a meeting of the expat club in Pattaya, but after 10 minutes of being ignored I decided to leave. Does this meet at different locations? I saw a group of people at the big c extra food court that looked like a club meeting of some kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAFETY FIRST Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 (edited) 16 minutes ago, JimTripper said: Does this meet at different locations? I saw a group of people at the big c extra food court that looked like a club meeting of some kind. Lots of elderly European guys hang out there everyday. They seem OK, keep to themselves. Expat club now meets on 2nd road every week. https://clicks.aweber.com/y/ct/?l=KnKNE&m=JeLM8SLUjbIzzL&b=i1gL4yqUSfwCsDpw86a.Aw https://www.facebook.com/groups/PattayaExpatsClub/?ref=share&mibextid=NSMWBT Edited February 15 by SAFETY FIRST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 7 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said: Lots of elderly European guys hang out there everyday. They seem OK, keep to themselves. Expat club now meets on 2nd road every week. https://clicks.aweber.com/y/ct/?l=KnKNE&m=JeLM8SLUjbIzzL&b=i1gL4yqUSfwCsDpw86a.Aw https://www.facebook.com/groups/PattayaExpatsClub/?ref=share&mibextid=NSMWBT Got to be really bored to do that meet up, topics get desperate it seems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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