Judge orders Trump and companies to pay nearly $355 million in civil fraud trial

[Lacessit]

2 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

 

Insults don't help - this was a set-up by a politicised Fanii who ran on getting Trump. O'Leary is right - it is absurd and will be thrown out on appeal - easily.

First Trump has to post cash or a bond for $355 million ( or more ) before he can even appeal.

Engoron's 92-page judgment is meticulous in dissecting the frauds Trump and his associates committed. And explaining how he has assessed the fine/disgorgement required.

O'Leary is a successful businessman. There is no evidence he has any legal training, neither do you.

[Danderman123]

6 hours ago, johng said:

The problem with society is that so many believe the "fact checkers"

 

Can you supply evidence that mainstream fact checkers are lying or wrong?

 

I don't mean once, but that fact checkers are generally inaccurate.

 

As opposed to *you* not having a good grasp of the facts.

Edited February 20 by Danderman123

[heybruce]

2 hours ago, BobBKK said:

 

Insults don't help - this was a set-up by a politicised Fanii who ran on getting Trump. O'Leary is right - it is absurd and will be thrown out on appeal - easily.

Too bad we can't take bets on that.

 

BTW:  What is insulting about suggesting someone turn off the television and read?  I think it's good advice.

[Danderman123]

2 hours ago, BobBKK said:

 

Insults don't help - this was a set-up by a politicised Fanii who ran on getting Trump. O'Leary is right - it is absurd and will be thrown out on appeal - easily.

So, you are okay with businesses conducting asset valuation fraud? Or just Trump?

[Danderman123]

7 hours ago, frank83628 said:

so Biden isn't on video bragging the he got the prosecutor fired after threatening to withhold the money?

You know that Shokin was on the take for Burisma, he refused to investigate them.

 

Biden was bragging about getting a corrupt prosecutor fired.

 

Do you disagree?

 

 

Edited February 20 by Danderman123

[Danderman123]

Donald Trump Able to Post $400M Bond to Appeal Engoron Ruling: Alina Habba

 

We'll know soon enough.

 

I suspect that a reasonable appeal by the defense will cause a reduction in the verdict amount.

Edited February 20 by Danderman123

[frank83628]

4 hours ago, Roo Island said:

Hard to argue with the MAGA folk. They don't like facts that go against what they get from dodgy media and dodgy politicians. Shows why the US is so divided. Really sad.

nah, the US is divided due to the media, rational people can see it, maga trumpers and extreme leftists like you guys here cannot, i am neither. 

[frank83628]

9 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

You know that Shokin was on the take for Burisma, he refused to investigate them.

 

Biden was bragging about getting a corrupt prosecutor fired.

 

Do you disagree?

 

 

of cousre he was, not actually looking into burisma..... but you jizz about 'the big guy' instead of reality

 

[frank83628]

5 hours ago, Roo Island said:

Lost the plot....I fact check everything. Unlike MAGA cult members. Trump doesn't want them to know the truth.

 

Hard to have a discussion with Trumpers as they deal in alternative facts.

no you dont, you just go with the msm narrative because it suits you 

[Danderman123]

8 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

of cousre he was, not actually looking into burisma..... but you jizz about 'the big guy' instead of reality

 

Why is it you Trump trolls never post any facts?

 

You all sound like a drunk in a bar.

 

Your man Trump is losing court cases faster than anyone in US history. Judges all over the country are ruling against him.

 

Why are you backing a loser?

[Danderman123]

8 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

no you dont, you just go with the msm narrative because it suits you 

You don't have a Narrative, just random comments.

[Roo Island]

15 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

no you dont, you just go with the msm narrative because it suits you 

I go with the facts. But when you bash msm, you show your true colors. MAGA through and through

[johng]

43 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

 opposed to *you* not having a good grasp of the facts.

it's you that don't have a grasp of "the facts"  due to listening to MSM and dismissing any disenting voice.

[johng]

10 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Why are you backing a loser?

I like to back the underdog sometimes they win.

[Roo Island]

22 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

of cousre he was, not actually looking into burisma..... but you jizz about 'the big guy' instead of reality

 

Give us a credible link proving your allegations or.....bs

[johng]

4 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

I go with the facts.

Straight from the "fact checkers" ?

[Roo Island]

3 minutes ago, johng said:

it's you that don't have a grasp of "the facts"  due to listening to MSM and dismissing any disenting voice.

MSM is way more factual than far right media outlets or social media. Even Tucker Carlson's lawyers admit he doesn't tell the truth

[pomchop]

6 hours ago, Roo Island said:

Lost the plot....I fact check everything. Unlike MAGA cult members. Trump doesn't want them to know the truth.

 

Hard to have a discussion with Trumpers as they deal in alternative facts.

alternative facts...commonly known as bat shxt crazy conspiracy theories backed by zero evidence...fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me...fool me over and over and over MAGA

[Roo Island]

1 minute ago, johng said:

Straight from the "fact checkers" ?

Better than the lies from the MAGA politicians

[pomchop]

6 hours ago, frank83628 said:

no. i just don't believe everything that comes from a left leaning media outlet and after following the Trump thing quite closely over the years i have been able to see the difference in reporting between left and right. the whole fact checking is BS too, all left leaning, rarely do we see them checking their own side. 
the US is one of the most propagandised countries on the planet, the media is all owned by a few, you can flick the channels and the outlets literally continue word for word, but you seem to believe everything you're told with out question.....






 

Like when you see a live video of a crowd that trump says is ten thousand people and anyone with an iq in double digits can see it is less that 1/3 of that?  or when trump tells a whopper ...for example every day..that can be proven BS with a two minute google search?  Some things you question and verify...trumpers buy his BS hook line and sinker and all the proof they need is to scream MAGA and worship a man who says it is good to be uneductated...he loves the uneducated...much easier to fleece the

fools.

[frank83628]

5 minutes ago, pomchop said:

Like when you see a live video of a crowd that trump says is ten thousand people and anyone with an iq in double digits can see it is less that 1/3 of that?  or when trump tells a whopper ...for example every day..that can be proven BS with a two minute google search?  Some things you question and verify...trumpers buy his BS hook line and sinker and all the proof they need is to scream MAGA and worship a man who says it is good to be uneductated...he loves the uneducated...much easier to fleece the

fools.

no matter how many people were or weren't there, it's was still 1000x those of a biden live video

[johng]

3 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Make no mistake, Trump is anti-science. It directly contradicts the message he is trying to sell. Which probably cost 100K -200K Americans their lives on his watch, during COVID.

Completely made up in your own imagination ?

[Roo Island]

6 minutes ago, johng said:

Completely made up in your own imagination ?

Nope. Just the facts.

[johng]

22 minutes ago, pomchop said:

alternative facts...commonly known as bat shxt crazy conspiracy theories backed by zero evidence..

Bat xxxx  crazy like a lab leak theory ?

[johng]

33 minutes ago, pomchop said:

with a two minute google search? 

Google admits and celebrates that it manipulates the search results.

Their "do no evil" placard was removed from headquarters years ago.

[metisdead]

Off topic deflection posts and the replies contravening our Community Standards have been removed:

 

Please remember this topic is about:

 

Judge orders Trump and companies to pay nearly $355 million in civil fraud trial

[Chomper Higgot]

12 hours ago, Old Croc said:

I found the suggestion that I was soliciting for trump to be deeply insulting. 

I have previously thought more highly of your posts on this forum.

The link is soliciting.

 

I apologize for any offense I have caused, it was not deliberate.

[Roo Island]

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

no matter how many people were or weren't there, it's was still 1000x those of a biden live video

You're seriously saying this? Totally lost the plot.

[Roo Island]

1 hour ago, johng said:

Google admits and celebrates that it manipulates the search results.

Their "do no evil" placard was removed from headquarters years ago.

Google doesn't lie. Dodgy websites it references do.

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, johng said:

Completely made up in your own imagination ?

During COVID, Trump held rallies. He also avoided masks because they spoiled his makeup. He downplayed the pandemic, take a look at the Woodward interview. He sidelined Fauci, an acknowledged expert in the field.  All these circumstances facilitated the spread of COVID.

 

You think it's an accident the red states had a higher death rate from COVID than the blue states during the pandemic?

 

Given your post, I can only conclude injecting bleach has killed off the few brain cells you may have had.