The prospect of a second Trump presidency has the intelligence community on edge

[2baht]

8 minutes ago, ballpoint said:

The prospect of a second Trump presidency has everyone with any intelligence on edge.

Ah rephrase that to anyone with at least half a brain!

[Yellowtail]

5 minutes ago, 2baht said:

Can the majority of voting Americans (those that actually bother) be that stupid!!! 😏

They were stupid enough to elect Biden. 

[Yellowtail]

3 minutes ago, 2baht said:

Ah rephrase that to anyone with at least half a brain!

So, everyone on the left is out...

[2baht]

Just now, Yellowtail said:

They were stupid enough to elect Biden. 

Well that makes them pretty stupid all round! 

[James105]

15 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Look dude the vast majority of democrats want to put up someone other than Biden mostly because of the optics of his age, but he's made his decision, and when push comes to shove there is that binary choice and he will probably win against trump the traitor, but there are so many variables in what could happen between now and election day that it's ridiculous to be overconfident either way.

 

This might be a silly question, but why is it his decision in a functioning democracy?  If the vast majority of democrats want an alternative candidate then why can they not have one?   

[LosLobo]

4 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

Your link featured quotes from Turnbull, who trashes Trump but was an even more unpopular leader than him.

 

Can you see how stupid that is?    

 

No, but I can see how the Trump ideology of idiocrasy can lead some to respond illogically.
 

Seems, there might be a couple of logical fallacies in your post:
 

Ad Hominem Fallacy: This is when an argument is directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining. In this case, you’re attacking Turnbull’s popularity rather than addressing the content of his statements about Trump.

 

False Equivalence Fallacy: This is when someone incorrectly asserts that two or more things are equivalent, simply because they share some characteristics. You seem to imply that because Turnbull was unpopular, his criticisms of Trump are invalid or less credible.

However, the popularity of a leader does not necessarily correlate with the validity of their observations or arguments.

While it’s true that Turnbull had his own challenges during his term as PM, his honest comments about Trump are based on his personal experiences and observations. These should be evaluated on their own merits, rather than dismissed based on his popularity.
 

[Jingthing]

16 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

This might be a silly question, but why is it his decision in a functioning democracy?  If the vast majority of democrats want an alternative candidate then why can they not have one?   

Not a silly question. 

There is a democratic party primary happening. Biden is winning that overwhelmingly. There is not even one democratic of substance opposing him. They are free to do so but haven't.  Why? Well there is a usual custom with both parties that an incumbent president who.has been reasonably successful is usually nominated easily for the second term. It may seem a paradox but the vast majority of democratic think Biden has been successful and that his policy positions match with theirs AND that the optics of his age are terrible. If he had not run again it would have been a wild open primary. But he did.

[Lacessit]

48 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

So, everyone on the left is out...

IIRC, most of us on the left are financially literate, which is more than can be said about you.

[Jingthing]

16 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

This might be a silly question, but why is it his decision in a functioning democracy?  If the vast majority of democrats want an alternative candidate then why can they not have one?   

Not a silly question. 

There is a democratic party primary happening. Biden is winning that overwhelmingly. There is not even one democratic of substance opposing him. They are free to do so but haven't.  Why? Well there is a usual custom with both parties that an incumbent president who.has been reasonably successful is usually nominated easily for the second term. It may seem a paradox but the vast majority of democratic think Biden has been successful and that his policy positions match with theirs AND that the optics of his age are terrible. If he had not run again it would have been a wild open primary. But he did.

[Will B Good]

The prospect of a second Trump presidency has the intelligent community on edge

[Roo Island]

On 2/27/2024 at 8:38 AM, nauseus said:

Politico - leading the way in propaganda.

Not propaganda at all. Very factual but is left biased.

[Roo Island]

57 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

They were stupid enough to elect Biden. 

Stupid enough to be supporting a conman with over 90 indictments.

[Roo Island]

16 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Every time biden climbs the shortened stairs into Air Force 1, there's a chance. 

Sad people wish the worst on our leaders. Shows why the US is in such trouble.

[Roo Island]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/01/18/opinion/trump-cabinet-election-2024.html

 

What 17 of Trump’s ‘Best People’ Said About Him

 

Mark Milley. Joints Chief of Staff

Sept. 29, 2023

We don’t take an oath to a country. We don’t take an oath to a tribe. We don’t take an oath to a religion. We don’t take an oath to a king or a queen, or to a tyrant or a dictator. And we don’t take an oath to a wannabe dictator.”

 

Rex Tillerson. Secretary of State

July 20, 2017

Moron,” Mr. Tillerson reportedly said of Mr. Trump.

Edited February 28 by Roo Island

[Lacessit]

It's a given no one will share intelligence with America if Trump gets back in. Not Australia, UK, Europe, Israel, Mexico - no one.

Everybody knows Trump at best is totally careless with national secrets, putting human assets and contingency planning at risk. At worst, he could be selling them out to the highest bidder, another income stream to pay for his legal fees.

No sensible person would trust Trump. He does trust what Putin tells him. The idiots that do are blissfully unaware he will throw them under the bus anytime it suits his book.

[Dolf]

Wmd, Wikileaks etc. It needs reform from telling lies to killing innocents.

 

Shame Trump didn't pardon Assange. 

[Roo Island]

1 minute ago, Dolf said:

Wmd, Wikileaks etc. It needs reform from telling lies to killing innocents.

 

Shame Trump didn't pardon Assange. 

Amazing as he pardoned plenty of other criminals and friends.

[Dolf]

8 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

Stupid enough to be supporting a conman with over 90 indictments.

By the deep state who kills innocents and lies about wmd whilst protecting Biden and Pelosi

 

 

[Dolf]

Just now, Roo Island said:

Amazing as he pardoned plenty of other criminals and friends.

Assange wasnt the criminal killing innocents abroad. He exposed these murderers.

[Roo Island]

Just now, Dolf said:

By the deep state who kills innocents and lies about wmd whilst protecting Biden and Pelosi

 

 

Deep state? Seriously? I'm guessing you also follow QAnon?

[Roo Island]

1 minute ago, Dolf said:

Assange wasnt the criminal killing innocents abroad. He exposed these murderers.

And broke the law and put people's lives at risk. Sad some are ok with that.

[Lacessit]

Just now, Dolf said:

Wmd, Wikileaks etc. It needs reform from telling lies to killing innocents.

 

Shame Trump didn't pardon Assange. 

He was too busy pardoning his fellow criminals. Most of the Trump pardons, issued very late in his Presidency, were to people who were connected to him in some way.

[paul1804]

23 hours ago, paul1804 said:

Who do you think arranged and covered up the assassination of JFK and the reasons why are exactly why Trump  would reshape US intelligence agencies. Who do you think was behind the invasion of Iraq knowing the lie that Iraq was producing weapons of mass destruction?

What do you really believe happened in the 9/11 tragedy, 3,000 plus US citizens killed?? 

 

Lets hope Trump gets reelected so the world can be a better place!

Yes its time to drain the swamps for the better of all humanity rather than just a select few!

[thaibeachlovers]

22 hours ago, digger70 said:

The prospect of a second Trump presidency has the intelligence community on edge.

 

Probably they are scared that DT find some more Wrongdoings in their community.

I hope DT comes Back and Sort it out .He's got the guts to do that, Not   Zombie JB.

You beat me to it. More likely that they are terrified he'll go after the guys that worked against him the first time. Hopefully he won't have a useless incompetent like Sessions to have to deal with this time.

[thaibeachlovers]

19 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

Sad people wish the worst on our leaders. Shows why the US is in such trouble.

More like the US is in trouble because it elects IMO useless people to POTUS.

[thaibeachlovers]

26 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

The prospect of a second Trump presidency has the intelligent community on edge

Good news, IMO.

[Dolf]

11 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

Deep state? Seriously? I'm guessing you also follow QAnon?

No deep state 

No state sanctioned murders by the US

 

What fairyland do you live in?

 

Assange exposed these crooks for what they are

[Roo Island]

12 minutes ago, Dolf said:

You support criminals. Biden is a criminal. Obama is a criminal. Both murderers.

Post a credible link proving Biden is a criminal.

[Roo Island]

4 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

More like the US is in trouble because it elects IMO useless people to POTUS.

Agreed. But Biden is light years better than Trump. Look at my previous link. Most who worked for him didn't like him. These are people he hired!

[Dolf]

Just now, Roo Island said:

Agreed. But Biden is light years better than Trump. Look at my previous link. Most who worked for him didn't like him. These are people he hired!

Biden is an old fool. The deep state tells he what to say and do.