Safest country during WWIII?

[GypsyT]

I wanna be ready.

Checking places to be and where to keep assets;

https://visitworld.today/blog/1749/the-safest-regions-of-the-world-which-is-the-best-country-if-world-war-iii-happens

 

- New Zealand sounds good. Beautiful nature, danger loving people (crazy jet boat racing in canyons and other motorsports) and I got some old friends there from the US who went back home after making a fortune. Like my pal Rod;   http://leadfootranch.com/corporate-events/  What a beautiful place he got!

 

[CharlieH]

Won't matter, whilst you may escape the blast, you won't escape the nulear winter that follows.

 

All you will do is prolong the inevitable.

I'd rather go in the blast.😁

 

 

 

[JGon]

I would take Switzerland off that list... who cares if you are neutral if all the countries surrounding you have been bomb to hell. The other thing to consider about countries above a certain latitude is... if a nuclear winter follows were the temperatures drops globally... the higher in latitude you are the worst off you will be.

 

My bet are those equatorial Pacific Islands.

[spidermike007]

This is most definitely a topic most of us would prefer not to think about. A nuclear holocaust is something few of us would escape from, unscathed. I hope it never happens, and that even madmen like Putin, Kim, Netanyahu, and Xi realize there is no upside for anyone.

 

After all, despite the best efforts of visionary men like Musk, we do not have any alternatives planets yet. We should stop behaving as if we do. 

[cdemundo]

9 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

This is most definitely a topic most of us would prefer not to think about. A nuclear holocaust is something few of us would escape from, unscathed. I hope it never happens, and that even madmen like Putin, Kim, Netanyahu, and Xi realize there is no upside for anyone.

 

After all, despite the best efforts of visionary men like Musk, we do not have any alternatives planets yet. We should stop behaving as if we do. 

While listing madmen...

There is a story that when Trump was prez he asked an adviser "If we have nuclear weapons why don't we use them".

Apparently asked 3 times from the media reports.

 

Seems to have been repeated often if you google "Did Trump ask 'If we have nuclear weapons why don't we use them' " but all the references seem to be from the same source. So who knows?

Even still...

[Thailand]

Extreme but Uranus may be a consideration!

[KhunLA]

That didn't take long ... Trump seems to arrive in every thread 

 

Even the measles in FL thread, and the "American Man Found with Bullet Arrested at Phuket Airport"  thread  

Edited March 5 by KhunLA

[thaibeachlovers]

49 minutes ago, GypsyT said:

I wanna be ready.

Checking places to be and where to keep assets;

https://visitworld.today/blog/1749/the-safest-regions-of-the-world-which-is-the-best-country-if-world-war-iii-happens

 

- New Zealand sounds good. Beautiful nature, danger loving people (crazy jet boat racing in canyons and other motorsports) and I got some old friends there from the US who went back home after making a fortune. Like my pal Rod;   http://leadfootranch.com/corporate-events/  What a beautiful place he got!

 

Danger loving people?

 

The closest to danger most get now is watching thrillers on tv.

 

We do have a lot of sheep though, so there is that.

 

 

Edited March 5 by thaibeachlovers

[grain]

Just remember the true story of the man in Europe who was wondering the very same thing prior to the outbreak of WW2. He could see that a full on world war was coming so he carefully studied a map of the world, and after considering all the factors he selected a tiny remote island far away in the South Pacific where he could safely live a self-sufficient lifestyle. So a couple of weeks before Hitler invaded Poland, this man departed Europe and relocated to safely wait out the approaching war on the island of Guadalcanal.

[thaibeachlovers]

29 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

This is most definitely a topic most of us would prefer not to think about. A nuclear holocaust is something few of us would escape from, unscathed. I hope it never happens, and that even madmen like Putin, Kim, Netanyahu, and Xi realize there is no upside for anyone.

 

After all, despite the best efforts of visionary men like Musk, we do not have any alternatives planets yet. We should stop behaving as if we do. 

Apart from the likelihood it will never happen, If it does, best to off yourself. Human nature in the raw is not pleasant.

[pub2022]

36 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

This is most definitely a topic most of us would prefer not to think about. A nuclear holocaust is something few of us would escape from, unscathed. I hope it never happens, and that even madmen like Putin, Kim, Netanyahu, and Xi realize there is no upside for anyone.

 

After all, despite the best efforts of visionary men like Musk, we do not have any alternatives planets yet. We should stop behaving as if we do. 

 

In your list of madmen you forgot Biden and Zelensky, Von der Leyen, Trudeau, Sunak.

 

[connda]

The is no "safe" country and believing so is the ultimate of moronic stupidity and is the exact mindset that will lead to dumbing-down of the commoners into believing that a nuclear war is survivable.  Only for a few who are deep enough under-ground and prepared to stay there until the nuclear winter is over and the radiation levels don't outright kill you.  Morlocks. 

Yeah - survivable for those with government-built or privately-built bunkers - that is, if those who plan to use them aren't caught mid-flight/in-transit to their "safe-place." 

😁 "I'm going to ride out the coming nuclear war in New Zealand."

Nope - unless you have a billionaire friend with a bunker and a private military, you - like the rest of the common masses - are going to die.  Best to be at ground zero.  Those will be the lucky folks.

[Dmaxdan]

23 minutes ago, Thailand said:

Extreme but Uranus may be a consideration!

That sounds painful!

[Phulublub]

3 minutes ago, connda said:

The is no "safe" country and believing so is the ultimate of moronic stupidity and is the exact mindset that will lead to dumbing-down of the commoners into believing that a nuclear war is survivable.  Only for a few who are deep enough under-ground and prepared to stay there until the nuclear winter is over and the radiation levels don't outright kill you.  Morlocks. 

Yeah - survivable for those with government-built or privately-built bunkers - that is, if those who plan to use them aren't caught mid-flight/in-transit to their "safe-place." 

😁 "I'm going to ride out the coming nuclear war in New Zealand."

Nope - unless you have a billionaire friend with a bunker and a private military, you - like the rest of the common masses - are going to die.  Best to be at ground zero.  Those will be the lucky folks.

And for how long will these "elites" live underground?  Who will maintain their machines?  What will they do? 

 

Read On The  Beach, Neville Chute...published 1957.  Or watch the film (1959).  60+ years ago, but still pretty accurate imv

 

PH

Edited March 5 by Phulublub

[thaibeachlovers]

2 minutes ago, connda said:

Only for a few who are deep enough under-ground and prepared to stay there until the nuclear winter is over and the radiation levels don't outright kill you.  Morlocks. 

and when they finally emerge from their bunkers some of us will be there to give them a warm welcome into the brave new world they didn't expect.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, Phulublub said:

And for how long will these "elites" live underground?  Who will maintain their machines?  What will they do? 

 

Read On The  Beach, Neville Chute...published 1957.  Or watch the film (1959).  60+ years ago, but still pretty accurate imv

 

PH

Another good book is "Level 7". It's about Russians that survive ( or rather don't survive ) in the deepest bunkers.

 

Best movie I saw about it was Testament. Very harrowing and realistic. Sad too. Have tissues available.

[stupidfarang]

1 hour ago, GypsyT said:

I wanna be ready.

Checking places to be and where to keep assets;

https://visitworld.today/blog/1749/the-safest-regions-of-the-world-which-is-the-best-country-if-world-war-iii-happens

 

- New Zealand sounds good. Beautiful nature, danger loving people (crazy jet boat racing in canyons and other motorsports) and I got some old friends there from the US who went back home after making a fortune. Like my pal Rod;   http://leadfootranch.com/corporate-events/  What a beautiful place he got!

 

NZ is part of the "Five Eyes" spy programm so may well be a target, and if you think Australia would be safe they also are part of the "Five Eyes". Saying that, being so far from the rest of the world we may have a slim chance of surviving .

[Henryford]

I can't see the point of all the bunkers they are building. Nukes from Russia will arrive in 30 minutes. Can you get to the bunker in 15-20 minutes? Unless you are actually in the bunker 24/7/365 you still get fried.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, stupidfarang said:

NZ is part of the "Five Eyes" spy programm so may well be a target, and if you think Australia would be safe they also are part of the "Five Eyes". Saying that, being so far from the rest of the world we may have a slim chance of surviving .

If NZ were to escape intact, who would be the "people in charge"?

Hint, pick your choice between a group with "power" in their title, or perhaps the ones with "mob" in theirs.

You know who has all the guns, since the law abiding guys handed theirs in.

[thaibeachlovers]

2 minutes ago, Henryford said:

I can't see the point of all the bunkers they are building. Nukes from Russia will arrive in 30 minutes. Can you get to the bunker in 15-20 minutes? Unless you are actually in the bunker 24/7/365 you still get fried.

Not if they live in NZ. No one is going to nuke there as they will need one intact country to live in after and NZ has a military as useful to keep them out as shouting "go away".

If NZ goes down it will be because of nuclear winter or radiation, IMO

[grain]

Also remember what Einstein said: “if World War III is fought with nuclear weapons, then World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.” 

[VocalNeal]

Uruguay 

[mfd101]

34 minutes ago, pub2022 said:

 

In your list of madmen you forgot Biden and Zelensky, Von der Leyen, Trudeau, Sunak.

Um, so Z, VDL & T also have their fingers on The Button?

[thaibeachlovers]

4 minutes ago, mfd101 said:

Um, so Z, VDL & T also have their fingers on The Button?

I think he was referring to mad people, not just ones with a button.

[spidermike007]

1 hour ago, cdemundo said:

While listing madmen...

There is a story that when Trump was prez he asked an adviser "If we have nuclear weapons why don't we use them".

Apparently asked 3 times from the media reports.

 

Seems to have been repeated often if you google "Did Trump ask 'If we have nuclear weapons why don't we use them' " but all the references seem to be from the same source. So who knows?

Even still...

It definitely sounds like something the numskull would ask. After all he's not the kind of guy who thinks things through, and he probably just assumes that Mar-A-Lago is not subject to radiation. Also, don't forget this is the guy who recommended bleach to get rid of covid, so he might think bleach works for radioactivity too. 

[spidermike007]

44 minutes ago, pub2022 said:

 

In your list of madmen you forgot Biden and Zelensky, Von der Leyen, Trudeau, Sunak.

 

Well you definitely revealed which side of the aisle you're on, with an inane reply like that. 

 

Some of us are trying to keep this forum sane and rational. 

[spidermike007]

44 minutes ago, connda said:

The is no "safe" country and believing so is the ultimate of moronic stupidity and is the exact mindset that will lead to dumbing-down of the commoners into believing that a nuclear war is survivable.  Only for a few who are deep enough under-ground and prepared to stay there until the nuclear winter is over and the radiation levels don't outright kill you.  Morlocks. 

Yeah - survivable for those with government-built or privately-built bunkers - that is, if those who plan to use them aren't caught mid-flight/in-transit to their "safe-place." 

😁 "I'm going to ride out the coming nuclear war in New Zealand."

Nope - unless you have a billionaire friend with a bunker and a private military, you - like the rest of the common masses - are going to die.  Best to be at ground zero.  Those will be the lucky folks.

Though you are likely correct, there is another potential scenario which is that nuclear winter does not happen, but rather we have a complete economic meltdown which results in total anarchy, and the disintegration of most governmental apparatus. That is a definite possibility and if that happens I would rather be in rural Thailand, than in urban America, that's for sure. 

[Celsius]

I'll be hiding in Soi siped

[Henryford]

25 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Not if they live in NZ. No one is going to nuke there as they will need one intact country to live in after and NZ has a military as useful to keep them out as shouting "go away".

If NZ goes down it will be because of nuclear winter or radiation, IMO

 

But the billionaires don't live in NZ. Zuckerberg is spending $200 million on his Hawaii bunker. Will he live within 15 minutes travel time of it. Hawaii will be the first to get nuked by Russian subs.

Edited March 5 by Henryford

[spidermike007]

45 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

and when they finally emerge from their bunkers some of us will be there to give them a warm welcome into the brave new world they didn't expect.

Exactly, that's almost something worth looking forward to. In a twisted sort of way, I'm kind of hoping that things diminish into a form of anarchy, so we have a chance to go after the architects of our downfall. 

 

How much fun would that be and can you imagine the surprised looks on their faces. I thought we were untouchable, I thought we were above you plebs, I never thought any of our actions were going to have any consequences! 

Edited March 5 by spidermike007