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Thailand news - The story about the two New Zealand brothers and the incident with the Thai policeman rages on with the brothers remaining in custody and their parents speaking out, Thailand's deputy police chief may be suspended following a summons to answer questions over graft involving an online gambling website.

 

Plenty of questions still remain over Thailand's defence procurements - submarines, frigates and new fighter jets, GRAB taxi gets it own booth at Don Mueang International Airport in Bangkok, more 'rules' for the control of fires in northern Thailand while the air quality remains extremely poor, and a good summary of the 'cannabis situation' in Thailand as recreational use faces new ban.

 

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When a Thai commits a crime they somehow always confess. Bet the police aren't used to dealing with a plea of innocent.

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Trying to bribe a police officer half the country should be arrested  money doesn't always talk

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10 minutes ago, Goat said:

You can run over the police in a Ferrari and be freed in Thailand.

If you have money.

That is the truth of it isn't it?

 

At the end of the day these guys did a stupid thing for what ever reason yet to be known

But basically did not harm the cop just disarmed & embarrassed him...

 

But also as you said it will be bought & paid for either way

 

Vorayuth Yoovidhya not only hurt but killed a cop but then a cop ex police chief helped him escape and was never really chased again

 

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3 minutes ago, jvs said:

For a car ,probably yes but for a motorbike?

Could be true...My license is dual passenger vehicles & motor bikes but perhaps not all are.

 

But as they said in that clip too it is good they also go after rental agencies that rent to folks without showing proof of license

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55 minutes ago, mania said:

All else aside all this talk about driving without a license seems odd considering....
 

 

These guys 36 & 38 surely have NZ licenses

Apparently, not, at least not available to show the police, otherwise why would they be charged with not having a licence...did they show their motorcycle licences?  Having a NZ licence and perhaps not having it in Thailand doesn't count.

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52 minutes ago, ozz1 said:

Trying to bribe a police officer half the country should be arrested  money doesn't always talk

They would be if they also assaulted the police and stole their guns.

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1 hour ago, mania said:

All else aside all this talk about driving without a license seems odd considering....
 

 

These guys 36 & 38 surely have NZ licenses

 

The NZ license must specify that it is good for motorcycles and be accompanied by the IDP

 

Sec 42 Motor Vehicle Act

In case of a driver who is an alien temporarily permitted to reside in the Kingdom under the law on immigration may possess a driving license under section 42 bis while driving in the Kingdom. In this case there shall be accompanied such driving license with the document prescribed in the existing Convention or Agreement between Thai Government and the Government of such country for producing immediately to the competent official45. 

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1 hour ago, mania said:

All else aside all this talk about driving without a license seems odd considering....
 

 

These guys 36 & 38 surely have NZ licenses

An NZ license must specify the classes of vehicles it is valid for. A car license is not valid for a m'bike.

It costs a great deal to get rego for a m'bike in NZ because of the ACC levy and not many ride m'bikes in NZ, mainly gang members and rich guys that ride big bikes in clubs. The smaller m'bikes like I used to ride in my younger days are IMO rare on NZ roads- it's cheaper to register a car and the roads are dangerous for m'bikes, which is why the ACC levy is so high.

 

Also second hand cars are very cheap and big m'bikes are expensive.

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18 minutes ago, Smokin Joe said:
1 hour ago, mania said:

All else aside all this talk about driving without a license seems odd considering....
 

 

These guys 36 & 38 surely have NZ licenses

 

The NZ license must specify that it is good for motorcycles and be accompanied by the IDP

 

Sec 42 Motor Vehicle Act

In case of a driver who is an alien temporarily permitted to reside in the Kingdom under the law on immigration may possess a driving license under section 42 bis while driving in the Kingdom. In this case there shall be accompanied such driving license with the document prescribed in the existing Convention or Agreement between Thai Government and the Government of such country for producing immediately to the competent official45. 

 

Does the NZ drivers license have an enforcement for Motorcycles ???...

 

... If not, then the guys did not have the correct license and would have been fined for that...

Which is very common in Thailand and probably the very reason the BiB wanted to stop the tourists ? (as they know most tourists wont have the correct license and thus, its a money spinner). 

 

Thats no excuse for the NZ guys to flee of course...  But.. did they flee ???

Did they know the Policemen wanted to pull them over ?

How clear were the instructions from the BiB to pull over / stop ?

Or... Did the NZ Guys see the instruction to stop and just thought eff that, I'm not stopping for this shakedown ?

 

 

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1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Does the NZ drivers license have an enforcement for Motorcycles ???...

 

... If not, then the guys did not have the correct license and would have been fined for that...

Which is very common in Thailand and probably the very reason the BiB wanted to stop the tourists ? (as they know most tourists wont have the correct license and thus, its a money spinner). 

 

Thats no excuse for the NZ guys to flee of course...  But.. did they flee ???

Did they know the Policemen wanted to pull them over ?

How clear were the instructions from the BiB to pull over / stop ?

Or... Did the NZ Guys see the instruction to stop and just thought eff that, I'm not stopping for this shakedown ?

 

 

You ask a lot of questions none of us can answer. I answer about the license in my previous but one post

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51 minutes ago, Goat said:

Dad is rich.

This is Thailand.

Rich people do not really go to jail.

They will be found guilty.

The then appeal and apply for bail (yes this happens in Thailand) 

They will then pay money to get their passports back and promise to return.

They wont return. 

 

That is how it always works for those with money. 

Thais prefer the money. especially the police.

 

You can run over the police in a Ferrari and be freed in Thailand.

If you have money.

"Rich people do not really go to jail".

Oh yes, they do, ask Joe Ferrari or the Chairman of Italian-Thai. 

 

"They will be found guilty.  The then appeal and apply for bail (yes this happens in Thailand)"

Yes, that happens in most countries when appealing.

 

"You can run over the police in a Ferrari and be freed in Thailand.

If you have money".

As happens in most countries.  Being remanded in custody is not something that usually happens after traffic accidents, even fatal ones.

 

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3 hours ago, ezzra said:

They can deny until the'll go blue in the face, their goose is cooked and the'll spend long time in jail

if only to make an example of such behaviour that will not be tolerated anywhere in the world,

it this case, I'm a 100% on the police side... 

 

I tend to agree ....  their behavior was disgraceful, more training is required.

 

and you have to admit .....  this has $$$ signs flashing all over it ...   a nice pre-Songkran bonus coming up   !!

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1 hour ago, jvs said:

For a car ,probably yes but for a motorbike?

In many countries a car license is valid for a small motorbike (<125cc engine). As only knowledge of traffic rules is required.

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10 minutes ago, Ben Zioner said:

In many countries a car license is valid for a small motorbike (<125cc engine). As only knowledge of traffic rules is required.

Thailand is not one of those countries.

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