Why did Hollywood become so boring ?

[Kinnock]

It takes a coalition of investment businesses to raise the funds to make a movie, and they are looking for a guaranteed return on investment.  This means a proven track record of consumers, either because it's a sequel, franchise or based on a successful book or video game.  This has resulted to successive dumbing down of storyline.

 

With the exception of a few writer/directors such as Christopher Nolan, who has the determination to do what he wants and the track record to raise the funds, everyone else just churns out boring franchised sequels that end in  the predictable big final fight scenes.

[parallelman]

Apart from Bollywood where Indian love and dance routine are the usual,the industry moved away from the so called 'heartthrob' actors, crime and mystery theatre types to action movies etc. where focus changed to the action rather than the actors. Having said that in ancient times entertainment was all about action and killing gladiators so I guess we have come full circle except then it was real and now it isn't.😀 

[KhunLA]

When investing 10s or 100s of millions of $$$, you can't risk offending the snowflakes ...

... and if the forum is any gauge of the snowflake demographics worldwide ... nuff said.

[Trippy]

Used to be a big movie buff. There used to be so many good movies to choose from, sadly that is all gone now. Can barely find 5 movies I want to watch in a years time now.

When you start valuing the person's skin tone, or gender or sexual identification over talent, you get the crappy films that are made today. 

[kingstonkid]

Hollywood has become a CGI AI world, where before it was real-life stunts, and how far you could go is now how much CGI can you do.

 

The other issue is that most of the people have left Hollywood, and those that are left behind are bereft of fresh ideas because most of it has already been done. 

[newnative]

15 hours ago, mikebike said:

Wow. I have so many shows and movies lined up, I know I won't be able to watch everything I've got. No issues in movie land for me 😎

     Me, too.  Currently watching Shogun--terrific.  Latest seasons of Fargo and True Detective were great.  Masters of the Air.  Like the new version of Reacher.  For a change of pace, The Gilded Age.  I've liked lots of the Korean shows, as well.  Plenty of good content, just need to look around a bit.

[impulse]

I highly recommend the YouTube channel of "The Critical Drinker" for an amusing take on Hollywood and the stuff they're putting out.

 

I never recall being disappointed watching the movies he recommends.

 

Edited March 27 by impulse

[MrPancake]

4 hours ago, sirineou said:

Not boring. Boring  to you if you are a certain age.

" This statistic is significant in understanding the movie-going habits of North American audiences. It highlights the fact that a large portion of moviegoers are from the 12-24 age group, indicating that this demographic is a key target for movie studios and distributors."

https://gitnux.org/movie-audience-statistics/#:~:text=This statistic is significant in,for movie studios and distributors.

 

 

If it had anything to do with age, then movies wouldn't flop so badly.

I think Hollywood doesn't know how to write and produce a compelling film anymore.

 

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

They got taken over by the woke.

Now it's all about how great women are.

 

They even took a childhood story I loved and ruined it ( Swallows and Amazons ) with nonsense about German spies and changed the characters into nasty kids. The 1974 version was way better.

 

 

That might be part of the reason movies suck.

But there's something else for sure.

I mean they could produce good films with "great women" characters.

But they don't.

They come up with garbage only.

[Kinok Farang]

I'm a woke democrat with blue hair that likes to dress in woman's clothes.My pronouns are they-them.

I think Hollywood is fantastic just the way it is now.

[KhunLA]

2 hours ago, Trippy said:

Used to be a big movie buff. There used to be so many good movies to choose from, sadly that is all gone now. Can barely find 5 movies I want to watch in a years time now.

When you start valuing the person's skin tone, or gender or sexual identification over talent, you get the crappy films that are made today. 

They're simply time killers now when bored, and most fail at that minor task.  Really can't remember a movie recently I'd recommend as thought provoking or just entertaining, let alone one I'd watch again.  Some of the Oscar winners & blockbuster at the bottom of the list, and that's pretty sad.

[SiSePuede419]

Adam Sandler? 😳

[SiSePuede419]

1 hour ago, Kinok Farang said:

I'm a woke democrat with blue hair that likes to dress in woman's clothes.My pronouns are they-them.

I think Hollywood is fantastic just the way it is now.

Did you appear in Trannies for Trump 7?

You closeted gay Republicans are weird. 😘

[bbko]

Let's admit the older you get, the more you yearn for the way things used to be.  Go into any bar and the old timers are stuck listening to the music they grew up on.  How many more decades till we see 60-70-y/o requesting hip hop music?

 

 

[Kinok Farang]

4 minutes ago, SiSePuede419 said:

Did you appear in Trannies for Trump 7?

You closeted gay Republicans are weird. 😘

 

7 minutes ago, SiSePuede419 said:

Did you appear in Trannies for Trump 7?

You closeted gay Republicans are weird. 😘

Not really although i only moved in with my current gf because her clothes fit me.

[MrPancake]

10 minutes ago, bbko said:

Let's admit the older you get, the more you yearn for the way things used to be.  Go into any bar and the old timers are stuck listening to the music they grew up on.  How many more decades till we see 60-70-y/o requesting hip hop music?

 

 

I'm absolutely in favor of new stuff.

I don't really wanna see more of what was hype in the 80's and 90's. But new things are just terrible remakes or horrid originals.

[thaibeachlovers]

3 hours ago, MrPancake said:

 

If it had anything to do with age, then movies wouldn't flop so badly.

I think Hollywood doesn't know how to write and produce a compelling film anymore.

 

 

That might be part of the reason movies suck.

But there's something else for sure.

I mean they could produce good films with "great women" characters.

But they don't.

They come up with garbage only.

They used to have great movies about women, but those women were believable. That isn't the case now. Take China Beach, which was a series showcasing strong women that was excellent. Now it's about how women can beat up men.

The Koreans/ Japanese make movies about women that are still feminine, but I can't remember the last feminine woman I saw on a Hollywood movie. Having sex at the drop of a hat isn't about femininity.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, SiSePuede419 said:

Adam Sandler? 😳

I will never watch another movie with that man in it. They couldn't pay me enough to sit through another of his atrocious movies. Same with a whole heap of American actors, like Ben Stiller.

[BritManToo]

They've made nothing worth watching since American Beauty and Fight Club.

I'm currently working backwards,

yesterday Witness with Harrison Ford

And before that Carlito's way and Scarface.

 

All the best movies were made in the 1980s and 1990s!

[MrPancake]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

All the best movies were made in the 1980s and 1990s!

 

So true 👍

[bobandyson]

10 hours ago, champers said:

I am waiting for the film version of Curb Your Enthusiasm. I'm not holding my breath.

 

This movie got me watching CYE.

 

 

[MrPancake]

Edited March 27 by MrPancake

[still kicking]

Start watching Bollywood 

[spidermike007]

There's still a lot of very good stuff out there, right now TV seems to be better than movies, but there's a lot of independent film, and foreign film that's fantastic and there's some Hollywood film that's great. American fiction and Poor Things are two excellent examples of spectacular films that are hugely entertaining. 

 

You have to avoid the sequels and you have to avoid the amusement park garbage, the animated cartoon garbage, and the Transformer type garbage, and the Marvel garbage, that's all ridiculous nonsense without content just bloated big budget ridiculousness, once you get past that there is still a lot of good work being done. 

 

Perhaps you need to get more creative with your selections or do better research. 

[MrPancake]

20 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

American fiction and Poor Things are two excellent examples of spectacular films that are hugely entertaining.

 

Ok I'll give those two a try.

Thanks 👍

[MrPancake]

@spidermike007

Just watched 30-40 minutes of Poor Things.

What a boring uninspired degenerated remake of Frankenstein...

I stopped right after the scene where the woman with a child's brain shoves a cucumber up her vagina.

Enough with this weird pedo garbage 😄

(Visuals are nice though)

 

Gonna try the other one now...

 

Edited March 27 by MrPancake

[Jake72]

DEI is the death of everything.

[spidermike007]

11 minutes ago, MrPancake said:

@spidermike007

Just watched 30-40 minutes of Poor Things.

What a boring uninspired degenerated remake of Frankenstein...

I stopped right after the scene where the woman with a child's brain shoves a cucumber up her vagina.

Enough with this weird pedo garbage 😄

(Visuals are nice though)

 

Gonna try the other one now...

 

I'm not sure what Emma Stone getting kinky has to do with pedo garbage, but I guess you have your preconceived notions. 

[spidermike007]

Just a few ideas, past and present. 

 

TV

The fall of the house of usher
Tulsa King
Trapped - good Icelandic show 
The Bridge - amazing crime series 
Gomorrah - amazing Napolitano small time mafia series 
Suburra - similar 
Romanza criminale - gang story 
Gangs of London - gang story, a bit brutal, but good
Taboo - amazing Tom Hardy series, powerful and anti corporate. 
The undoing
Escape at dannemora
Mare of Easttown 
Mayor of Kingstown - season 1
The offer - 2022
First man
Halston
Vikings 
Dark

Movies
Paolo Sorrention, the great Italian film director:
The great beauty
Youth
The hand of God
Mads Mikkelson: 
Another round 
Riders of Justice 
At eternity's gate 
The hunt 
A royal affair 
Valhalla rising 
After the wedding

Man on fire - Denzel 
Across the universe 
Yesterday - Beatles were forgotten 
Beneicio del toro:
A perfect day - 2015 
Things we lost in the fire 
21 grams 
Mystic River
The Pledge 
The best offer - 2013
The secret life of Walter Mitty 
This must be the place - 2011
Only God Forgives - Ryan Gosling 
Song to song
The big short 
Crazy, stupid love 
American pastoral 
The judge 
Crazy heart 
Seven days in utopia - great golf film
Salmon fishing in the Yemen 
A history of violence 

 

Westerns 
Slow west 
The savlation
The proposition
Appaloosa 
Open range 
Get low
Broken trail 

 

Japanese 
Sway 2006
Drive my car 
 

The list goes on and on. 

[MrPancake]

29 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

I'm not sure what Emma Stone getting kinky has to do with pedo garbage, but I guess you have your preconceived notions. 

 

Her character is a toddler (well at least the brain of one) in a woman's body.

Edited March 27 by MrPancake

[sidjameson]

37 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Just a few ideas, past and present. 

 

TV

The fall of the house of usher
Tulsa King
Trapped - good Icelandic show 
The Bridge - amazing crime series 
Gomorrah - amazing Napolitano small time mafia series 
Suburra - similar 
Romanza criminale - gang story 
Gangs of London - gang story, a bit brutal, but good
Taboo - amazing Tom Hardy series, powerful and anti corporate. 
The undoing
Escape at dannemora
Mare of Easttown 
Mayor of Kingstown - season 1
The offer - 2022
First man
Halston
Vikings 
Dark

Movies
Paolo Sorrention, the great Italian film director:
The great beauty
Youth
The hand of God
Mads Mikkelson: 
Another round 
Riders of Justice 
At eternity's gate 
The hunt 
A royal affair 
Valhalla rising 
After the wedding

Man on fire - Denzel 
Across the universe 
Yesterday - Beatles were forgotten 
Beneicio del toro:
A perfect day - 2015 
Things we lost in the fire 
21 grams 
Mystic River
The Pledge 
The best offer - 2013
The secret life of Walter Mitty 
This must be the place - 2011
Only God Forgives - Ryan Gosling 
Song to song
The big short 
Crazy, stupid love 
American pastoral 
The judge 
Crazy heart 
Seven days in utopia - great golf film
Salmon fishing in the Yemen 
A history of violence 

 

Westerns 
Slow west 
The savlation
The proposition
Appaloosa 
Open range 
Get low
Broken trail 

 

Japanese 
Sway 2006
Drive my car 
 

The list goes on and on. 

How does one get hold of all these great shows?

Edited March 27 by sidjameson