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Takeaways from the Trump hush money trial: Opening statements and the first witness


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Blanche argued that attempting to influence an election is not inherently illegal, emphasizing the essence of democracy”

 

I’m not going to pretend this is going well for Trump.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Walker88 said:

All of that makes the jury more willing to accept the legal definition of the laws NY State alleges trump broke,

That might not be so cut & dry:

 

 Though the crime of falsifying business records is nominally a misdemeanor, the Manhattan district attorney’s office almost always charges it as a felony. Still, the Trump case stands apart. The Times could identify only two other felony cases in Manhattan over the past decade in which defendants were indicted on charges of falsifying business records but no other crime.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/09/magazine/alvin-bragg-donald-trump-trial.html

 

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In their opening statement, the Defense asserted that Trump didn't have sex with Stormy Daniels. If Ms. Daniels is a persuasive witness, the Jury will convict based on just that point.

 

I suspect that we are going to see a defense tactic similar to the Carroll case, over the definition of sex. It's possible that they didn't have full intercourse, and so the Trump fans will repeat their claims that Trump really didn't have sex. And therefore Stormy Daniels is lying.

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1 minute ago, Berkshire said:

That defense has been brought up before.  But it begs the question...."If there were no sexual relations, why would Trump pay $130,000 to Daniels to keep quiet about something that never happened?"  Any reasonable person (which doesn't include Trump supporters) would see that it doesn't make sense. 

It's irrelevant to the charges whether he didn't or he did (though he obviously did). He's not being charged with having sex.

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1 hour ago, Walker88 said:

A TV pundit, who may or may not be correct (though he was a DA in NY State), noted that what sets trump apart is that he falsified business records in order to influence an election. That is particular to NY State, which is why the trial is there, and not in Federal Court. Others who falsified business records, even those charged with a felony, were not running for any office.

That doesn't explain the exception that Trump was not charged with an "other crimes" felony as well.

 

But that exception might be something the defense can explain to the jury

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1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

It's irrelevant to the charges whether he didn't or he did (though he obviously did). He's not being charged with having sex.

Once Trump's lawyer stated that Trump never had sex with Stormy Daniels, then Trump's credibility is on the line when she testifies.

 

If the Trump fans here are reduced to claiming that "sex" doesn't include what they did, Trump is done.

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