Bangkok Governor Targets Taxi and Tuk-Tuk Overcharging

[Skeptic7]

For the failed 15th consecutive year. 

[mogandave]

7 hours ago, Robert Paulson said:

I see them setting speed traps to shakedown innocent victims all the time. I think this is their job 

How is a speed-trap used to shakedown innocent victims? 

 

Does it not catch people that are speeding?

[hellohello123]

The article forgot to mention how long this crackdown is going for ?

 

Seconds, minutes, hours?

Edited April 29 by hellohello123

[Ricardo99]

7 hours ago, pomchop said:

I have been told several times that cops are paid very poorly but the system allows them to accept bribes etc to compensate them for the low pay so the top brass look the other way as they are also in on the food chain.....without this system nobody would want a job as a cop.....true or not i do not know but it sure seems that way.

That excuse is used by every s***bag country in Africa and the developing world. If people want the responsibility that comes with the authority of the role of a Police Officer, then they should be set to a higher standard of behaviour not a lower one. If they don't like the living they make on a Police salary...then don't become a cop or quit pretending you are 

 

Crooks with uniforms otherwise!

Edited April 29 by Ricardo99

[Purdey]

Must admit that with temperatures into the 40s I would not like to force the ordinary policeman to wander up and down the side of the Central World. 

Maybe make the fines large enough to make taxi and tuktuk drivers think twice.

[ikke1959]

2 hours ago, Jackbenimble said:

clearly you just made that up. Doyou have any more fables to share with us?

Not my words kids were saying that.... On the other hand we had a conversation with a few wives from policeofficers and they told us, that their husband was bored being a policeman as their boss wanted that they took bribes or unregistered fines and hand them to him( the boss).... just to say

[Dirk Z]

Déjà vu. Next month back on this site.

[Jonathan Swift]

9 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

The problem is obviously the lazy and corrupt police. If they would do their job, then this, and many other problems, wouldn't exist.

Maybe someone should explain this to the governor. Or maybe he knows that already... 

Oh come on - he and everyone else knows the score. We do, right? They announce one of these"crackdowns" about once a year. 500 baht fine for overcharging IF they are prosecuted, so much for that.

[arick]

Go now and stand and sathon and show them this and see what they charge you.

[keithkarmann]

Blah Blah Blah

[Bangkok Barry]

2 hours ago, ourmanflint said:

One way would be to process all fares centrally through some sort of app/tech, which would monitor all car movements whilst on duty. No chance of it happening in Thailand though

 

Apps work until the system goes down. and one time they tried contactless payments on the Airport A1-A4 buses in Bangkok but that didn't seem to last long.

[Robert Paulson]

1 hour ago, mogandave said:

How is a speed-trap used to shakedown innocent victims? 

 

Does it not catch people that are speeding?

You’ve obviously never been stopped at one of these. They repeat the word “radar” to you over and over again but there are no radar guns in sight. And they might even change your infraction once you have a couple of questions about the “radar”

[NORDO]

Standard LIP service with no followup action.  Normal procedure.

[Liverpool Lou]

10 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

The problem is obviously the lazy and corrupt police. If they would do their job, then this, and many other problems, wouldn't exist.

"If they would do their job"...Really?  How many people report these issues to the police?    Without that, or without every passenger being escorted into the taxi by a police officer, how could the police do that part of their job? 

[Liverpool Lou]

9 hours ago, Robert Paulson said:

I see them setting speed traps to shakedown innocent victims all the time.

If those "innocent victims" are caught in speed traps. wouldn't they, by definition, not be innocent victims?

[Liverpool Lou]

3 hours ago, Shocked farang said:

The rider without a license gets stopped at the roadblock then he is instructed to pay a visit to the police station where everyone is already expecting him, he pays 550 TBH and gets a paid mark on the slip. One cop even told me when I went back to get the motorbike, "If they stop you again you can show this slip with the PAID mark on it!

That's been the process for years and is official.       The receipt is supposed to be to prevent the driver being done twice for the same offence but only for that day...it can't be used for ever.

Edited April 29 by Liverpool Lou

[Liverpool Lou]

3 hours ago, wensiensheng said:

Letting riders ride off without a helmet after paying a fine is a sure sign that road blocks are for money and nothing to do with enforcing the law or road safety

"Letting off" those without a helmet after paying a fine is not letting them off, it is fining them!

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, Jonathan Swift said:

They announce one of these"crackdowns" about once a year. 500 baht fine for overcharging IF they are prosecuted, so much for that.

No chance of their being prosecuted if no one bothers to report it to the police.

[OneMoreFarang]

19 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

"If they would do their job"...Really?  How many people report these issues to the police?    Without that, or without every passenger being escorted into the taxi by a police officer, how could the police do that part of their job? 

In case you really want to know:

The taxi-no-meter often park in front of big hotels, i.e. on Sukhumvit Road. They park always on the same spot, multiple cars. I notice these cars every day and the police should be able to see the same.

And I notice that lots of people look for taxis on busy streets like Sukhumvit. Taxis stop, the people talk to the driver, and then mostly the taxi drives away without people. Repeat that multiple times. And for many people. It's obvious what is going on.

And obviously the police know this. It seems they have some incentive to look the other way. Now what could that be... 

[Liverpool Lou]

22 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

I see them setting speed traps to shakedown innocent victims all the time.

You "see them all the time"...really?  Do you monitor all these "shakedown" speed traps and the motorists that are apprehended?  How often do you do these surveys?

[richard_smith237]

4 hours ago, Excogitator said:

Good, and I hope it is a serious effort this time.

 

Of course it won’t be - this is nothing other then ‘media lip service’…

 

 

4 hours ago, Excogitator said:

Getting sick and tired of stepping out of taxis who refuse to run the meter..

 

Same here… & then Grab & Bolt who cancel the ride before they get to you…

Solution: Book grab or Bolt premium & it cuts the BS.

[MangoKorat]

Where have I heard this before?

[Robert Paulson]

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

You "see them all the time"...really?  Do you monitor all these "shakedown" speed traps and the motorists that are apprehended?  How often do you do these surveys?

https://aseannow.com/topic/1326122-bangkok-governor-targets-taxi-and-tuk-tuk-overcharging/?do=findComment&comment=18878154

[mogandave]

4 hours ago, Robert Paulson said:

You’ve obviously never been stopped at one of these. They repeat the word “radar” to you over and over again but there are no radar guns in sight. And they might even change your infraction once you have a couple of questions about the “radar”

I’ve been here almost 25 years, an in that time I’ve probably driven a million Km, and I have been stopped countless times. I think I have only been stopped once when I might not have been speeding or whatnot. 

 

Actually, I used to get stopped regularly, but since I quit speeding and changing lanes too close to the intersection and cutting across solid lines, it stopped.

 

Coincidence? 

[john donson]

13 hours ago, pomchop said:

I have been told several times that cops are paid very poorly but the system allows them to accept bribes etc to compensate them for the low pay so the top brass look the other way as they are also in on the food chain.....without this system nobody would want a job as a cop.....true or not i do not know but it sure seems that way.

 

maffia with uniform and impunity... transfer at best with hand cought in the cookie jar...

[Hanuman2547]

13 hours ago, Freddy42OZ said:

He posits that one reason salaries are so low is that the sheer number of officers is staggering, roughly 250,000. This means that an increase of 5,000 baht in every cop's monthly salary would cost the government a politically untenable 15 billion baht annually

250,000 police officers in Thailand.  Is this the largest organized criminal gang in Thailand?

[Robert Paulson]

10 hours ago, mogandave said:

I’ve been here almost 25 years, an in that time I’ve probably driven a million Km, and I have been stopped countless times. I think I have only been stopped once when I might not have been speeding or whatnot. 

 

Actually, I used to get stopped regularly, but since I quit speeding and changing lanes too close to the intersection and cutting across solid lines, it stopped.

 

Coincidence? 

There’s a reason for that Einstein. You’re probably always speeding. Most people are. I drive at or even well under speed limits because it saves up to 30% on gas which I’ve discussed before on these forums. Trust me… cops stop people for “radar” violations when they are not in fact speeding. How can we get this far in life and not realize these are shakedowns. They don’t care about safety, they don’t care about speeding, they care about lining pockets with roadside cash. 

[Liverpool Lou]

19 hours ago, Robert Paulson said:

20 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

You "see them all the time"...really?  Do you monitor all these "shakedown" speed traps and the motorists that are apprehended?  How often do you do these surveys?

https://aseannow.com/topic/1326122-bangkok-governor-targets-taxi-and-tuk-tuk-overcharging/?do=findComment&comment=18878154

So you do not "see them all the time shaking down motorists", as you claimed...didn't think that you did.

[mogandave]

8 hours ago, Robert Paulson said:

There’s a reason for that Einstein. You’re probably always speeding. Most people are. I drive at or even well under speed limits because it saves up to 30% on gas which I’ve discussed before on these forums. Trust me… cops stop people for “radar” violations when they are not in fact speeding. How can we get this far in life and not realize these are shakedowns. They don’t care about safety, they don’t care about speeding, they care about lining pockets with roadside cash. 

What is the reason for that Newton, given I quit getting stopped when I quit speeding?

 

Wat that you doing 60 in the right lane? Why buy a car when you can’t afford to put gas in it? Hey, get you a BYD EV, they’re really really cheap and cost almost nothing to drive. 

[Letseng]

On 4/29/2024 at 7:39 AM, OneMoreFarang said:

I see lots of taxi-no-meter blocking the streets all the time, and 99% of the time the police do nothing about it. 

Sukhumvit Soi 24 from 5am till midday several taxis hang out for hotel guests. They are not interested in metered fares. Phrompong to MBk is 400Baht.