Do you consider George Floyd a hero or just another Serial criminal who was addicted to drugs?

 

At his worst, Mr. Floyd was a drug addict and ex-con who did hard time for a 2007 robbery in which he terrorized a Hispanic woman who was at home with a baby, and absentee parent to his older children, one of whom didn’t recognize him when his photo appeared two weeks ago on television.

 

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jun/7/george-floyd-black-lives-matter-martyr-struggled-d/

He was a career criminal and drug addict whose death was weaponized by the extreme left to push a Marxist agenda and make money from useful, left wing liberal idiots. 

 

So it's a No from me. 

Nope, just a career criminal, and unless rehabilitated in the future, can't see how society isn't better without him around.

 

Paraphrased rom wiki ...

"Criminal convictions

Between 1997 and 2005, Floyd served eight jail terms on various charges, including drug possession, theft, and trespass.

 

In 2007, Floyd faced charges for aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon; according to investigators, he had entered an apartment by impersonating a water department worker and barging in with five other men, then held a pistol to a woman's stomach and searched for items to steal"

 Blm organization made millions off his name too.

Here is just one instance where they were caught & found guilty.

 

“Former Atlanta BLM activist accused of stealing from donors to fund lavish lifestyle found guilty”.

 

https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/atlanta/former-atlanta-blm-activist-accused-stealing-donors-fund-lavish-lifestyle-found-guilty/WB4UI4YR35DGBGF5CXJF6LKQ4U/

I didn't follow the story in detail.

As far as I know he was a criminal.

But also, as far as I know, the police used a lot more force than necessary.

In a civilized country the police should use necessary force, and not more than that. That is part of being civilized.

If the police use excessive force, and people get the impression that they do that especially for one race, that is a way to destroy the trust in the police.

Should have just tased the bloke, a known AH ..........🤔

Hero to the left

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Hero to the left

His death has cost billions !

His disobedience was a key factor in his demise, that and the extreme amount of Narcotics in his system!

In 4 years time the usual suspects & activist are

still trying to legitimize his behavior !

They erected statues to him while declaring his death a racial issue.

How many times have we seen thugs being stopped by police , still disobeying police commands.

 

 

1 minute ago, riclag said:

His death has cost billions !

His disobedience was a key factor in his demise, that and the extreme amount of Narcotics in his system!

In 4 years time the usual suspects & activist are

still trying to legitimize his behavior !

They erected statues to him while declaring his death a racial issue.

How many times have we seen thugs being stopped by police , still disobeying police commands.

 

 

The left has to stoke racial animosity as one of the ways to destroy civil society.

The type that would consider him a hero (holding a gun to a pregnant lady etc) have an agenda and are not worth listening to. Pure scum. 

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

The left has to stoke racial animosity as one of the ways to destroy civil society.

Wow. Just wow.

he din do nuttin'

 No of course not but I do believe he was murdered.

8 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

Wow. Just wow.

The truth hurt? 

16 hours ago, riclag said:

His death has cost billions !

His disobedience was a key factor in his demise, that and the extreme amount of Narcotics in his system!

In 4 years time the usual suspects & activist are

still trying to legitimize his behavior !

They erected statues to him while declaring his death a racial issue.

How many times have we seen thugs being stopped by police , still disobeying police commands.

 

 

It isn't about him being a criminal but about the absolute vile beating by the police, which tends to happen quite a bit with black people even when they are innocent.

Not a hero but not someone who deserved to die. Most on the left saw it like this and considered some reforms in policing may be a good thing. 

Some on the extremes used terms like Defund the Police which from day 1 was a terrible slogan - even if components of what was being asked for had some merit - and the whole left including Biden - who never made such a call - are being tarnished by the right for this ever since. 

Some here think they can get the moral high ground - and offset the ridiculousness of their candidate - by bringing up such topics - but ask yourself if Biden's policies on crime are ridiculous or a different person's who talks about shooting petty criminals and such. 

20 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

The left has to stoke racial animosity as one of the ways to destroy civil society.

I agree with your statement.
 

“Now lets act in his memory”

biden

 

What does that even mean?

 

He held a gun to a pregnant womans stomach...    

 

... No, he was far from a hero - he was a criminal...      But, that is also different from the necessity of police reform in the US where their heavy tactics killed him...

 

Would the police have treated a white career criminal the same way, perhaps... who knows.

 

This was an already incendiary sitation looking for a spark... I think at the time it could have been any mistreatment of a black-guy that triggered these events...  though I do find an element of hypocrisy that it happend to be this man painted as an innocent saint to drum up the extent of outrage that it did.

 

 

 

 

17 hours ago, Jingthing said:

 No of course not but I do believe he was murdered.

 

You believe the Police deliberately killed him ??? - thats quite an extreme accusation.

 

From the videos I recall, I see the police acting in a very heavy handed manner to restrain him, perhaps necessary with a career criminal, but their actions were that of poor training and their actions were negligent leading to his death, so illegal, yes.. murder, no. 

 

There is a doco available on YouTube called 'The Fall of Minneapolis' about the incident.

Don't know how much of it is true but there are a few eye-openers in it.

It certainly highlights Floyd's career and character.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFPi3EigjFA&ab_channel=AlphaNews

 

 

18 minutes ago, riclag said:

I agree with your statement.
 

“Now lets act in his memory”

biden

 

What does that even mean?

 

Act to make it so all are treated fairly by the police. Through sensible reforms and training. Blacks have through history got the roughest treatment by the police so they are the focal point. Often individuals deserved what they got from police but a significant subset have been treated unfairly by police  and this is for them. It is better now though. 

The right wing media though will see 10 reforms over a period of time - 9 good and 1 ridiculous - and they'll show the 1 ridiculous one only as an example of the left being stupid and self indulgent - the viewers can feel smug that reform is not needed and is a waste of time. Even though over a longer time period it clearly was needed and things have improved.  If you keep that in mind the left may seem a bit less bad. 

38 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

Act to make it so all are treated fairly by the police. Through sensible reforms and training. Blacks have through history got the roughest treatment by the police so they are the focal point. Often individuals deserved what they got from police but a significant subset have been treated unfairly by police  and this is for them. It is better now though. 

The right wing media though will see 10 reforms over a period of time - 9 good and 1 ridiculous - and they'll show the 1 ridiculous one only as an example of the left being stupid and self indulgent - the viewers can feel smug that reform is not needed and is a waste of time. Even though over a longer time period it clearly was needed and things have improved.  If you keep that in mind the left may seem a bit less bad. 

Its all to familiar , over and over,

Floyd repeatedly disobeyed police commands !

 

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5 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

It isn't about him being a criminal but about the absolute vile beating by the police, which tends to happen quite a bit with black people even when they are innocent.

Keep watching TV

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Keep watching TV

It reminds me of , cnn reporting its a mostly peaceful protest while the neighborhood was burning in the background.

Just now, riclag said:

It reminds me of , cnn reporting its a mostly peaceful protest while the neighborhood was burning in the background.

The left believes what they are told to believe. You can count on your hands the number of unarmed black men killed by the police in an average year. 

 

And it's always racism in the cities run by the left, even when the mayor is black, the city council is black and the chief of police is black. 

 

"Truth is not a left-wing value." 

1 hour ago, riclag said:

Its all to familiar , over and over,

Floyd repeatedly disobeyed police commands !

 

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He did a petty crime - was not overly aggressive or violent - and ended up dead.  If Biden  talked about the topic of targeted fair reforms to stop something like this happening - among many topics he deals with each day - then that is not a bad thing. 

2 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

He did a petty crime - was not overly aggressive or violent - and ended up dead.  If Biden  talked about the topic of targeted fair reforms to stop something like this happening - among many topics he deals with each day - then that is not a bad thing. 

I am glad to see there are some sane / sensible / non racist people in this thread. Well, one.

3 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

He did a petty crime - was not overly aggressive or violent - and ended up dead.  If Biden  talked about the topic of targeted fair reforms to stop something like this happening - among many topics he deals with each day - then that is not a bad thing. 

Same $hit different day , excuses for crimes & drugs  . The left is gaslighting everyone to believe , its the police fault & the criminal ( in this case a  serial criminal) is a victim!

4 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

He did a petty crime - was not overly aggressive or violent - and ended up dead.  If Biden  talked about the topic of targeted fair reforms to stop something like this happening - among many topics he deals with each day - then that is not a bad thing. 

What about his home invasion with a gun, to hold up a woman at gun point...

Did you forget...?

 

1 minute ago, transam said:

What about his home invasion with a gun, to hold up a woman at gun point...

Did you forget...?

 

And all he had to do was get in the car.