2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

And all he had to do was get in the car. 

Exactly, he was showing off to his admirers, though he won't be doing that again, or invading lone women homes with a shooter......😬

35 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

I am glad to see there are some sane / sensible / non racist people in this thread. Well, one.

Race card! No mention of skin color ! Everything here points to a criminal being put on a pedestal  . 

35 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

I am glad to see there are some sane / sensible / non racist people in this thread. Well, one.

Race card! No mention of skin color ! Everything here points to a criminal being put on a pedestal  . 

 

29 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

And all he had to do was get in the car. 

He was a career criminal who tried to manipulate and connive the police, just like his crimes ! He played the system! If you watch the video below its shows his devious ways.

 

2 hours ago, Bert got kinky said:

 

There is a doco available on YouTube called 'The Fall of Minneapolis' about the incident.

Don't know how much of it is true but there are a few eye-openers in it.

It certainly highlights Floyd's career and character.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFPi3EigjFA&ab_channel=AlphaNews

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, riclag said:

Race card! No mention of skin color ! Everything here points to a criminal being put on a pedestal  . 

Right, race has nothing to do with it, of course not, how could I think that. 

Who has put him on a pedestal? It doesn't matter if he was a career criminal or not, he was murdered by having the full weight of a policeman pushing down on his neck for NINE MINUTES! He was handcuffed and face down at the time, so what threat was he posing? He kept saying he couldn't breathe....until finally he couldn't any more.

Don't come back saying he did this and that in his past as it is irrelevant. Do you condone the police killing an unarmed person who is face down in handcuffs with several other police around? 

Then come back and tell me it is not about race - it is obvious, it is just that none of you are brave enough to say it so you skirt around it saying he was a criminal etc blah blah.

23 minutes ago, transam said:

What about his home invasion with a gun, to hold up a woman at gun point...

Did you forget...?

 

On his character I concur he did serious bad things. It seems run ins with police from the beginning of 2013 were few and over minor matters including on that day. But that is not relevant to his death given he had no weapon and was no threat. 

The point is police acted with unreasonable force and he passed away. If Biden talks about ongoing reasonable reforms to lessen the possibility of it happening in the future  - that treat police and the public fairly -  then that is a good thing  I say. 

 

 

1 minute ago, josephbloggs said:

Right, race has nothing to do with it, of course not, how could I think that. 

Who has put him on a pedestal? It doesn't matter if he was a career criminal or not, he was murdered by having the full weight of a policeman pushing down on his neck for NINE MINUTES! He was handcuffed and face down at the time, so what threat was he posing? He kept saying he couldn't breathe....until finally he couldn't any more.

Don't come back saying he did this and that in his past as it is irrelevant. Do you condone the police killing an unarmed person who is face down in handcuffs with several other police around? 

Then come back and tell me it is not about race - it is obvious, it is just that none of you are brave enough to say it so you skirt around it saying he was a criminal etc blah blah.

Not about invading a woman's home to rob with a shooter then.......🤔

 

Race card..................Your type make me laugh..........🙄

 

Yes, 4 cops trying to hold down a man mountain, which got out of hand, but the guy could have just got in the cop car and lived another day, but no, drugged up, being an AH..........

4 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

On his character I concur he did serious bad things. It seems run ins with police from the beginning of 2013 were few and over minor matters including on that day. But that is not relevant to his death given he had no weapon and was no threat. 

The point is police acted with unreasonable force and he passed away. If Biden talks about ongoing reasonable reforms to lessen the possibility of it happening in the future  - that treat police and the public fairly -  then that is a good thing  I say. 

 

 

He resisted arrest thats the second crime of the day.First passing off bogus money.

The third crime he committed that day was ingesting a illegal substance .

 

 

5 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

On his character I concur he did serious bad things. It seems run ins with police from the beginning of 2013 were few and over minor matters including on that day. But that is not relevant to his death given he had no weapon and was no threat. 

The point is police acted with unreasonable force and he passed away. If Biden talks about ongoing reasonable reforms to lessen the possibility of it happening in the future  - that treat police and the public fairly -  then that is a good thing  I say. 

 

 

I was correcting your earlier statement......🤭

Just now, transam said:

I was correcting your earlier statement......🤭

The crime or crimes that day were petty  - the crime you talk of was 13 year before and he did his time -  but point taken. 

1 hour ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

He did a petty crime - was not overly aggressive or violent

 

He stuck a loaded handgun into the stomach of a pregnant woman during an armed robbery … what a perverse idea you have of petty crime.

1 minute ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

He stuck a loaded handgun into the stomach of a pregnant woman during an armed robbery … what a perverse idea you have of petty crime.

The left loves them some criminals 

12 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

The crime or crimes that day were petty  - the crime you talk of was 13 year before and he did his time -  but point taken. 

The bloke was a career criminal, on the day of his demise he was thought to be involved in criminal activity..........He was KNOWN.....🤗

I think the problem with that case is cops are all criminal thug co-dependent gang members. And they never suffer any consequences due to the very inadequate and quite illegal imo qualified immunity. This was one time where the cop probably got over punished for lack of a better word, because the raging woke mob was against him. I’m happy to see a cop get punished from time to time even if he’s not guilty to be honest. They get away with so much heinous <deleted> from killing people at times and even keeping their jobs to god knows what other corruption. They are bad enough as it is but mix in the fact that the judges and court system all work together with cops. As far as I understand qualified immunity in itself is somewhat of a farce it’s not law but it was a decision by a court in one case, and this is a very odd way for the United States to enact policy. There’s actually currently a judge, I forget his name, who wants qualified immunity to be overturned by the Supreme Court, one of the good ones obviously. Of course they will never overturn it though because that is their gravy train for the entire scam system. 

24 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Right, race has nothing to do with it, of course not, how could I think that. 

Who has put him on a pedestal? It doesn't matter if he was a career criminal or not, he was murdered by having the full weight of a policeman pushing down on his neck for NINE MINUTES! He was handcuffed and face down at the time, so what threat was he posing? He kept saying he couldn't breathe....until finally he couldn't any more.

Don't come back saying he did this and that in his past as it is irrelevant. Do you condone the police killing an unarmed person who is face down in handcuffs with several other police around? 

Then come back and tell me it is not about race - it is obvious, it is just that none of you are brave enough to say it so you skirt around it saying he was a criminal etc blah blah.

You think that because you're a leftist. 

Just now, Robert Paulson said:

I think the problem with that case is cops are all criminal thug co-dependent gang members. And they never suffer any consequences due to the very inadequate and quite illegal imo qualified immunity. This was one time where the cop probably got over punished for lack of a better word, because the raging woke mob was against him. I’m happy to see a cop get punished from time to time even if he’s not guilty to be honest. They get away with so much heinous <deleted> from killing people at times and even keeping their jobs to god knows what other corruption. They are bad enough as it is but mix in the fact that the judges and court system all work together with cops. As far as I understand qualified immunity in itself is somewhat of a farce it’s not law but it was a decision by a court in one case, and this is a very odd way for the United States to enact policy. There’s actually currently a judge, I forget his name, who wants qualified immunity to be overturned by the Supreme Court, one of the good ones obviously. Of course they will never overturn it though because that is their gravy train for the entire scam system. 

I was wondering when your daily dose of cr@p was going to turn up......

14 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

17 minutes ago, transam said:

I was correcting your earlier statement......🤭

The crime or crimes that day were petty  - the crime you talk of was 13 year before and he did his time -  but point taken.

 

those old crimes need to be a big consideration in deciding if the man was a hero or scumbag. did he deserve to die that day ? no. 

 

was he a hero ? absolutely not. he lost his human card when he did those vicious crimes in the past. normal good people do not do the things he has done. not heroic actions at all rather those of a complete coward. 

 

i hardly see any debate in this matter at all. 

He resisted arrest, he was alive when he was loaded in the ambulance, which was 10-20 minutes late, and died of something other than asphyxiation.

 

 

1 hour ago, josephbloggs said:

I am glad to see there are some sane / sensible / non racist people in this thread. Well, one.

 

 

Oh look, ordinary Joe produced the race card, when the comment he was replying to made no mention of race at all …. pin a rose on Joe

 

 

28 minutes ago, Robert Paulson said:

think the problem with that case is cops are all criminal thug co-dependent gang members. And they never suffer any consequences due to the very inadequate and quite illegal imo qualified immunity.

 

Erm...  the fact that the very Police Officer who is one of the subjects of this very discussion was charged with Murder and sentenced to 22 years and 6 months in prison... 

 

 

While I disagree that this was 'murder' and the legal process was somehow kneecapped by publicity and wokeness, we do see a policeman who acted at the very least unprofessionally heavy-handedly charged and sentenced for his actions...   

 

 

 

 

8 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

the absolute vile beating by the police

 

I don't think he was beaten.

7 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

While I disagree that this was 'murder' and the legal process was somehow kneecapped by publicity and wokeness, we do see a policeman who acted at the very least unprofessionally heavy-handedly charged and sentenced for his actions...   

 

Do you think anyone lied during the trial?

6 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

13 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

While I disagree that this was 'murder' and the legal process was somehow kneecapped by publicity and wokeness, we do see a policeman who acted at the very least unprofessionally heavy-handedly charged and sentenced for his actions...   

 

Do you think anyone lied during the trial?

 

I think it was a highly politicised and racially charged pantomime...      there could only be one verdict or cities across the US would have burned... 

 

 

10 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

I don't think he was beaten.

The left lies like you and I breathe...

Just now, richard_smith237 said:

 

I think it was a highly politicised and racially charged pantomime...      there could only be one verdict or cities across the US would have burned... 

 

 

Yeah, the left got it all stoked up for the election...

Off topic post attempting to hijack the topic has been removed

2 hours ago, stoner said:

 

those old crimes need to be a big consideration in deciding if the man was a hero or scumbag. did he deserve to die that day ? no. 

 

was he a hero ? absolutely not. he lost his human card when he did those vicious crimes in the past. normal good people do not do the things he has done. not heroic actions at all rather those of a complete coward. 

 

i hardly see any debate in this matter at all. 

I appreciate the topic was whether he was a hero. My focus has been on the act itself and Biden's reaction. I never suggested he was a hero. Neither did Biden as far as I can see. 

The original post reads like the first paragraph of a an opinion piece from Der Sturmer.   
 

What then,  are we to conclude? (As the intent of the post is omitted). 

 

That the wrong man is in jail? 
Perhaps that America is better off with Floyd dead,  as he deserved his summary execution and Chauvin  is actually the hero the OP seeks? 

 

 

2 hours ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

He stuck a loaded handgun into the stomach of a pregnant woman during an armed robbery … what a perverse idea you have of petty crime.

13 years before. I was talking about what happened on that day. I thought that was clear that I was linking the act on that day to the outcome. 

Not sure what people are saying - that because he did a terrible crime 13 years ago - which he did and did his time - that it somehow ok what happened based on the specific circumstances on the day. Odd. 

If George, the Patron Saint of Fentanyl chose NOT to be a criminal that infamous day he would still be alive.
 

 Maybe, being a career criminal he would have encountered other police intervention.

Just now, G_Money said:

If George, the Patron Saint of Fentanyl chose NOT to be a criminal that infamous day he would still be alive.
 

 Maybe, being a career criminal he would have encountered other police intervention.

Yeah, that he was a criminal resisting arrest make no difference, all that matters is that his death can be exploited but the left to stir=up more hate and racial animosity.